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|Planechase Anthology (PCA)||Common|
|2011 Core Set (M11)||Common|
|Promo Set (000)||Common|
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Creature — Specter
When Liliana's Specter enters the battlefield, each opponent discards a card.
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Liliana's Specter Discussion
3 weeks ago
You could try Hypnotic Specter over Liliana's Specter for the random discard effect. Funeral Charm is also decent since it can make your opponent discard on their draw step and kill mana dorks and Delver and Bob. Have uou tried using Quest for the Nihil Stone instead of Liliana's Caress?
1 month ago
Couple of notes up front (might just be due to ongoing edits):
- You have 2 copies of Victory Chimes in the list
- You only have 96 cards in the list (including the duplicate above) instead of 100
Want to suggest a couple of deck strategies to consider focusing in on (they are all fairly synergistic but it might help to pick one to focus on to help the deck feel like it has a clearer win condition):
With your current list of mill-value and beats, the missing pieces only seem to be ways to close the game.
- Keening Stone to close out a player with mill
- Necrotic Ooze to take advantage of any opponents' powerful abilities
- Consuming Aberration and Lord of Extinction seem quite good
- Psychosis Crawler takes advantage of the multiple windfall effects you are running but otherwise isn't too synergistic
- Splinterfright is a cheaper Lhurgoyf with better keywording and a synergistic 'tax' that works in your favor. Terravore might be worth considering too.
Discard Group Slug
I think this is a really interesting avenue for Muldrotha: running cards like Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur, Waste Not, Oppression, Mindslicer and Myojin of Night's Reach to clear out your own and opponents' hands while benefiting from Muldrotha and other graveyard recursion effects to allow yourself to keep making plays. It would be a deck unlike any other at our table so far.
Other solid cards that support this archetype:
- Scythe Specter, Hypnotic Specter, Liliana's Specter
- Cabal Conditioning
- Words of Waste
- Necrogen Mists
- Bloodhusk Ritualist
- Bottomless Pit
- Sword of Feast and Famine (yeah, expensive though)
- Painful Quandary
- Archfiend of Ifnir
Graveyard Theft or Pure Recursion
This concept would run recursion spells like Boneyard Parley to steal the best things from opponents graveyards. In this case, Muldrotha allows us to consistently run targeted recursion from our graveyard, and we can focus our deck construction on the grave-robbing package. Because of Muldrotha's ability, we want to focus primarily on "theft on sticks" which we can repeatedly cast as needed, likely leaning heavily into Black.
Theft on Sticks examples
- Chainer, Dementia Master
- Dance of the Dead
- Scion of Darkness
- Chancellor of the Spires can both jump-start your mill value and borrow a winner from someone's yard. Sam has one.
1 month ago
I loooove value-based decks that overtake the game by gaining incremental advantage over my opponents.
So what are some of the best colors for self contained 2-for-1 cards?
Are there any other particular color combinations that I should look into? I generally prefer 2 colors since I don't own many shocks or fetches.
All tips appreciated!
1 month ago
Actually, Wrexial will hit the defending player's graveyard, which if this deck is forcing them to discard their cards, you might still hit some things.
Still better to look for Specter-type cards. Like Liliana's Specter for instance.
Also to show us a card, Calixtus, put square brackets around the card name. Like so: Banshee of the Dread Choir. Which is similar to the specters (they have ETB, but the banshee has to hit). Problem is that if you're not playing multiplayer, the banshee's myriad ability won't do anything.
3 months ago
As I'm guessing your win con is Gray Merchant of Asphodel, I would recommend running things with more black devotion, such as Liliana's Specter or Disciple of Phenax. Just some recommendations, go wild with this deck man!
3 months ago
6 months ago
Thank you both for the suggestions. I will be adding Expedition Map to search for Cabal Coffers and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx. Toxic Deluge is also going in after I realized that this deck didn't have an answer for indestructible.Liliana's Specter will also be added, due to its low mana cost. Additionally, I will run Stupor, Whispers of Emrakul, and Wrench Mind. If I include Bottomless Pit and Necrogen Mists, I will also include Phyrexian Arena to ensure that I am not top-decking.
The suggestions were greatly appreciated. FYI, I finally got a chance to play the deck in a multiplayer setting, and it drew a lot of hate immediately. It was great!Sorry, I forgot to tag you both. MegaMatt13 TheWallinator74
6 months ago
Thank you both for the suggestions. I will be adding Expedition Map to search for Cabal Coffers and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx. Toxic Deluge is also going in after I realized that this deck didn't have an answer for indestructible.
Liliana's Specter will also be added, due to its low mana cost. Additionally, I will run Stupor Whispers of Emrakul and Wrench Mind. If I include Bottomless Pit and Necrogen Mists, I will also include Phyrexian Arena to ensure that I am not top-decking.
The suggestions were greatly appreciated. FYI, I finally got a chance to play the deck in a multiplayer setting, and it drew a lot of hate immediately. It was great!