Creature — Specter
When Liliana's Specter enters the battlefield, each opponent discards a card.
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|Planechase Anthology (PCA)||Common|
|2011 Core Set (M11)||Common|
|Promo Set (000)||Common|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Liliana's Specter occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%
Liliana's Specter Discussion
2 months ago
2 months ago
Some cards that I run in my The Haunt of Hightower deck that may be of use:
Liliana's Specter , hits the table with the discard, flying body just a bonus. I'd use this rather than some of your more expensive single target discard spells as this is multiplayer and its hard enough to punish the table playing discard.
Tasigur's Cruelty again, hits the table and you're not likely to be paying retail on this.
Geth's Grimoire Good way to refuel as you strip peoples' hands.
Bolas's Citadel better with Haunt as the lifelink there keeps this going but this is still an obscene card.
Rankle, Master of Pranks the haste, evasion and multiple modes are all good.
Waste Not More resources for you as opponents lose theirs.
Not sure about Dismember , Hero's Downfall or Vraska's Contempt would probably be useful more often in this spot. Though I suppose if your meta plays a lot of indestructibles, then Dismember may be the answer.
4 months ago
Personally, I'd probably drop that one sub-theme from the deck and devote the slots either to my own self-discard strategy or shore up any other sub-themes you may want to foster. If you go that route, look at Glint-Horn Buccaneer because he was basically made for this deck.
That being said, I really do enjoy some individuality and personal flavor/spin on decks.
So if you do wish to continue with the strategy you might want to open a card slot or two (since you're currently sitting at 9ish pieces). Some cards you may want to consider to add: Pain Magnification if you see yourself reliably dealing 3+ damage, Hypnotic Specter for a 3cmc attack discard engine or Liliana's Specter if you prefer ETBs, Banshee of the Dread Choir for a 5cmc discard monstrosity (lets face it Myriad is cool).
You just have to decide how much flavor you want out of your deck at the cost of efficiency.
4 months ago
Thanks again Massacar,
I had Dark Deal in an early version, but dont love that it hits me for minus one draw as well. and the one time use for Hymn to Tourach was what kept me from picking it. But that being said, i really like Arterial Flow .... 3 mana for opponents only to discard 2 each.. beautiful - and chances are i will have a vamp in play as well. That one is definitely going on my buy list.
I have played this a couple times, and I find it super fun but have absolutely no win condition on it (which is fine for now as long as we have fun playing), but not sure about creatures yet. Of the 3, i like Liliana's Specter only because its an ETB and not a hit the opponent ability. Will know more after more playtesting
4 months ago
Totally missed Creeping Dread and a few others.
If you really want to build into opponent discard though, consider Arterial Flow , Dark Deal , Hymn to Tourach , Dreamstealer , Hypnotic Specter , or Liliana's Specter . All of those options cost 3cmc or less and are $ cheap as well.
Good luck with the build, I will post back if I come up with anything new.
7 months ago
Chainer's game plan should be something like... Ramp > Control > Reanimate.
Focus on filling and stealing from your opponents' graveyards and protecting Chainer.
Stax: Honestly, I would avoid hard stax. It encourages your opponents to hate you and escalate their power-level.
What this deck really needs is ramp: 38-40 lands and 12-16 cards like Bubbling Muck , Charcoal Diamond , Heartless Summoning , Burnished Hart , Coalition Relic , Revel in Riches , Black Market , Magus of the Coffers , Gauntlet of Power , Nirkana Revenant , etc. Also Phyrexian Tower .
...If you want to lean into stax... here's a list for evil people :)
7 months ago
2 ways I would build SG on a budget:
Zombie token makers ( Liliana's Reaver ) + Zombie Token lords ( Eternal Skylord ) + kill spells ( Go for the Throat ); since SG makes zombie tokens you can kill an opponent's best creature, reanimate it, and it will get buffed. You will proactively make zombies for offense/defense while reactively killing problem creatures and turning them into your minions.
Strong enter-the-battlefield trigger creatures ( Plaguecrafter ) + Arcane Adaptation + kill spells ( Murder ); since SG makes a token of the exiled creature, being able to get a second trigger is great. With AA you obviously name "zombies" and now all your creatures boost SG' upkeep trigger. You are controlling opponents through your creatures entering the battlefield while, again, you are using kill spells to get rid of threatening creatures you want to turn into zombies.
2 other viable routes, though less 'zombie,' are discard via spells ( Syphon Mind ) and creatures ( Liliana's Specter ) to which you reanimate creatures your opponents' discard & mill via creatures ( Consuming Aberration ) and spells ( Mind Grind ).
You chose a lot of good zombies but I would ask whether they are good enough that you would reanimate? While SG promotes creatures, I would not forget about relevant zombie-focused spells. Ex. Apprentice Necromancer is cute but I would cut it for Cemetery Recruitment since it draws a card too or Ghoulcaller's Chant which grabs 2 back.
I would add more card advantage ( Ambition's Cost , Ancient Craving , Live Fast ) and ramp ( Mind Stone , Dimir Cluestone , Seer's Lantern ). I would shoot 10+ sources of each because nothing is less fun than not being able to cast your spells and top-decking.
The inclusion of Paradox Haze is a great idea!
9 months ago
Mirage Mirror , one of my favorite pet cards!
I would probably also end up picking Bog Initiate if I were running Ashnod's Altar , too. I ran the pair for a bit, but I'm going a bit of a token fuel route with Pawn of Ulamog / Sifter of Skulls with Dross Harvester and Pitiless Plunderer . Initiate also helps with Ancient Tomb / Sol Ring / Temple of the False God , of course.
Also Vesuva could replace a Swamp, not just one of your nonbasics, because if nothing else it can be a Swamp. But of your nonbasics, Path of Ancestry only supports 4 of your cards, including Chainer, for only a rare scry 1. Has Ash Barrens been useful? I run fetchlands because of Rings of Brighthearth and it would turn that into ", discard Ash Barrens: Search my library for 2 Swamps and put them in my hand, shuffle library".
With three sources of "no maximum hand size", do you ever aim Sadistic Hypnotist at yourself as a discard outlet, or do you just not encounter a need to pitch something from your hand?