Painful Lesson

Legality

Format Legality
Pre-release Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Standard Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Arena [BETA] Legal
Brawl Legal
Frontier Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Casual Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Battlebond (BBD) Common
Amonkhet (AKH) Common

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Painful Lesson

Sorcery

Target player draws two cards and loses 2 life.

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Painful Lesson Discussion

stellarstormtrooper66 on Tey is cray

3 months ago

I can tell just by looking at this briefly that this build has been improved over time as it looks very refined. As I am not experienced with this commander, take my comments with a grain of salt as you are more of the expert here.

I wonder if you could make use of more token producers - specifically ones that make at least 3 1/1 creatures at a time in order to use Teysa's first ability on demand if she's the only creature in play. Cards that come to mind include: Sengir Autocrat, Benevolent Offering, Increasing Devotion, Entrapment Maneuver, Spectral Procession, Martial Coup.

I think you could explore morbid a little more, some cool ones include Skirsdag High Priest, Reaper from the Abyss, Tragic Slip. Tragic Slip could improve your mana curve by replacing Murder.

I think more card draw effects would be nice. I'm very surprised to not see Mentor of the Meek in here. I would argue that Read the Bones is strictly better than Painful Lesson. But overall I would consider adding a few more, some that come to mind that play well are: Damnable Pact, Skeletal Scrying, Blood Divination, Altar's Reap, Ancient Craving.

I think you could use more mana ramp. Besides mana rocks, you could take advantage of treasures with cards like Pitiless Plunderer.

Not sure if you've thought about focusing on strong cards that care about low CMC. Besides Mentor of the Meek, other cool cards could be added (some would even interact with Teysa): Unearth, Sun Titan, Reveillark, Citywide Bust.

Fun cards that come to mind that you could add:

Lastly, a few cards I think could possibility be cut for any of the above (I am often eager to cut high CMC cards btw):

  • Treasury Thrull - a good effect I'll admit, but I'm just not thrilled with the 6 CMC. If reviving creatures is your main goal, something like a Hell's Caretaker's effect for less mana might be better.
  • Voldaren Pariah  Flip - at her cmc with that effect, I think I'd rather run a board wipe instead
  • Vizkopa Confessor - looks like a fun card, but I don't like the CMC.
  • Profane Command - I don't know that this should be cut, but I'd encourage you to really ask yourself which modes you typically use because you might be able to get a card with the desired mode for less mana. If X spells are a way for you close out the game, you could consider Exsanguinate or Torment of Hailfire.
  • Tamiyo's Journal - looks like a fun card, but idk about the cmc, requires a long game before providing lots of value.
  • Tainted Sigil - I've never seen this card before, does it pay off well? I just don't like that people can see it on the board.

Overall, very impression decklist - glad you rebuilt it. Eager to face it next week.

Cloudius on edgar markov

5 months ago

Card Draws & Tutors

I think this deck needs card draws and tutors badly. Boros ain't know for both categories but fear not, as we've Black to the rescue!

Mentor of the Meek Hang on, what's a Human doing among the unearthly blood sucking vampires... He actually synergizes very well with the horde of 1/1 tokens that we're putting into play each turn, replenishing our hands as we build an army.

Skullclamp a must play since we're generate tokens turn after turn, we should have enough to go around to crack some skulls and draw some cards.

Necropotence the go to card for card draw in black.

Night's Whisper, Sign in Blood, Painful Lesson, Read the Bones... you get the drift.

Phyrexian Arena and Underworld Connections

Vampiric Rites Sac outlet and card draw, with a mini life gain on the side.

shirouu on shirouu

6 months ago

Scytec Sure, it defiantly sounds interesting. Nekusar also seems really interesting as well and I can see a lot of combos that can be done in a deck with him. Like using Painful Lesson , Mind Rot , etc, like a discard/mill deck.

ExpletoryOrb on what am i doing

8 months ago

alright so here goes, so the cards to the left can be swapped with the ones to the right, it has the same or very similair effect but for a reduced mana cost etc.

Throttle -> Grasp of Darkness

Bloodtallow Candle -> Dismember

Whispers of Emrakul -> Hymn to Tourach

Painful Lesson -> Night's Whisper (there is also: Sign in Blood

Lethal Sting -> Victim of Night (there is also Go for the Throat)

Dutiful Return -> Ghoulcaller's Chant ? (its cheaper and will almost always be for a zombie? a lot cheeper but its your call.)

Abyssal Specter -> Hypnotic Specter

the next ones are cards i think you should strip, i will list them and then explain why:

Ruin Rat : you already have a few of these, and this isnt even a zombie. there are just better cards out there that arent expensive at all, (i'll give some suggestions further down the post)

Shambling Attendants : Just strictly bad, you dont want to play a 3/5 dude for 8 mana ever.

Cruel Feeding : its just pretty bad, the strive cost is very expensive just to +1/0 lifelink. dont use this unless you had something specific in mind that i didnt catch up on reading the list.

Duress and Divest : these never really do much, yes you get to pick away 1 card and see 1 hand but you will almost never hit anything especially good, only run this if you are planning to do a lot of 1v1 EDH.

Here are some suggestions of cards that are very cheap and are pretty good:

Empty the Pits

Zombie Apocalypse

Nightmare

Zombie Master

Nevinyrral's Disk

Exsanguinate

awfulitis on Brewer's Torment (Dominaria Update!)

9 months ago

Hey ArcticJohn unfortunately I haven't been able to test out this deck in the new format. I've been super busy at work and have had a lot on my schedule the past couple of weekends. In the one Standard Showdown I was able to make it to I decided to bring a / Control Deck built around Lich's Mastery that I've been tinkering with as a more casual deck. But I will be trying to devote some more time in the coming weeks to this deck as it has a pretty special place in my heart, and will ensure that I regularly update this list with my results and thoughts.

As far as changes are concerned, For a starting point I'm probably just going to make minor quality of life changes. I'd be pretty happy just swapping Painful Lesson with Dark Bargain (as it's basically a strictly better card) and the mainboard Bontu's Last Reckoning for Phyrexian Scriptures (As it can buff and clear the way for the few creatures the deck runs). If you are lucky enough to own a few Karn, Scion of Urzas I'd definitely look to make room for them, repeatable card advantage is something the deck sorely needs.

Depending on how the meta shapes up this list is definitely liable to change dramatically. I am particularly concerned about both Lyra Dawnbringer and the removal suite's poor match up with Mono- Stompy (Steel Leaf Champion in particular). I think that finding the right balance between proactive ways to attack the opponent's hand and answers to threats already on the battlefield will be key to ensuring the deck's survival.

Argy on Abzan's Siege on the World

10 months ago

I prefer Painful Lesson to Read the Bones, as the versatility means you can use it to finish off an Opponent who is on 2 life.

You have mentioned upgrades, and I think you would do well to incorporate 4x Vraska's Contempt, as Planeswalkers cause this problems.

It would also allow you to get rid of Creatures lands, which easily skirt Declaration in Stone, and Liliana, the Last Hope.

You've got Eerie Interlude (I would make this 4x), but you can also use Blossoming Defense, and Heroic Intervention to protect your Creatures.

Winds of Qal Sisma is another personal favourite of mine.

Alternatively, you could run Archangel Avacyn  Flip as she gives you lots of options, including Indestructibility.

You are missing some bigger Creatures with evasion. Something like Archangel Avacyn  Flip, and Gisela, the Broken Blade, or Angel of Sanctions, could work.

This is definitely a good start. I look forward to where this brew might end up.

Legendary_penguin_of_death on Mono-Black curse control (Shelved)

11 months ago

I dont think Golden Demise should be main board. Torment of Hailfire is pretty sweet so Id put 2ish in. Even just cast for X=3 is pretty good. Id also up Fatal Push and Vraska's Contempt to 4 ofs. Maybe take out 2 Painful Lesson

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Painful Lesson occurrence in decks from the last year

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.0%

Black: 0.02%