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As Palace Siege enters the battlefeild, choose Khans or Dragons.
- Khans — At the beginning of your upkeep, return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
- Dragons — At the beginning of your upkeep, each opponent loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
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Palace Siege Discussion
1 month ago
So, I would definitely work in Palace Siege, Phyrexian Reclamation, and Dawn of the Dead. Being able to recure your creatures is going to be really helpful with Ayli.
These are some creatures I run in my deck: Wall of Reverence, Divinity of Pride, Wurmcoil Engine, Archangel of Thune, and Rhox Faithmender. Some of them are pricey and may not fit exactly what your going for, but Divinity of Pride is pretty solid.
I run Proper Burial for value on sac triggers. I also like Riot Control, I have a lot of tokens in my meta so the creature count can get crazy, but depending on what decks you play this may not be a good fit.
1 month ago
I run a black oath deck as my pet mono-black deck, he's a great commander with a lot of versatility. Here's a couple cards that might be worthwhile. I like Bloodghast but personally I run Endless Cockroaches just because it's way cheaper and kinda funny. Consuming Vapors is a pretty good way to weed out the board and gain life in the process. Behold the Beyond is a pretty good tutor despite it's cost, and Diabolic Revelation can be a win-con depending on how hard you ramp. I would cut Cellar Door because it's too expensive and unreliable. Stronghold Assassin is a cheaper option in comparison to Attrition and Murder might do you a bit better than Premature Burial. Anowan, the Ruin Sage is good for group sac as is Magus of the Abyss. Archfiend of Depravity helps keep your opponent's board state low. I like Corpse Harvester and Corpse Augur as well. Personally, I'd cut Bloodline Keeper Flip because for his price he isn't worth it because this isn't a vampire tribal deck. Hell's Caretaker and Doomed Necromancer are good for recursion. Fleshbag Marauder is worthwhile too I think for group sac. I'm also a big fan of Palace Siege and Oversold Cemetery for passive recursion. Flesh Carver has also won me a lot of games, the intimidate is very powerful. I'd consider running Westvale Abbey Flip as well, potentially a win-con. Shade's Form and Pestilence are also pretty good enchantments. I would substitute Sorin Markov for Torgaar, Famine Incarnate, he's a sac outlet as well as a big body and you can recur his effect and even use it to bring yourself back up to 20 life. Infernal Offering is also a pretty useful card in my experience. Maybe consider Alhammarret's Archive too if you want to make your card draw and life gain more impactful. Those are just a few suggestion, hope it's helpful!! Mono-black is my passion haha
1 month ago
Thanks for the suggestion Ravenrose! Regarding Wild Pair, I will have to check for power/toughness combinations in the deck, though I think there are many. One of my friends already runs a deck with it, so I don't want to be "repetitive" sort of speak. Where Ancients Tread is definitely good, though it could be better to run a Warstorm Surge. I don't know if it's really worth the mana investment over just playing a dragon. Quicksilver Amulet and Dragon Arch are really good, though I already run a deck with those (here it is: Drag from the Future), focused on cheating creatures into play, so I don't feel like adding them. Again Palace Siege seems like spending mana for something I must wait a turn to use, rather than a dragon I can use immediately.
1 month ago
I have a few suggestions for your dragon deck. I love the Smaug theme and title, by the way. But I have two enchantments in my own Dragon deck that is a win con: Wild Pair plus Where Ancients Tread. I assure you - those cards have upgraded my deck a lot. Quicksilver Amulet and Dragon Arch also cheat dragons in if Wild Pair is not there yet. I also advise Palace Siege. I hope these help! I would love for you to check out my Dracarys deck!
1 month ago
Hey RijtBart. Thank you for your reply.
Personally - and this is purely a matter of personal preference - would dump Diabolic Tutor for Skyshroud Claim. Here is why: Demonic Tutor is way better. If you're going to have a tutor, budget really dosen't matter anymore. And more importantly: Tutors are garbage in casual play and I really hate them. Getting out the combo pieces is just unfair and unfun for everyone. Most ppl would (and frequently do) heavily disagree with me on that point but I do not change my mind on that. (Magic is - to a good degree - a game of chance, even more in commander, and I don't think this is bad.) But here is the thing: I don't see the need for more ramp. Kodama + Cultivate is imo fine. I never had any serious mana problems with this deck.
As for Together Forever, this is a tricky one. Palace Siege is the first I think of. You can invest the 3 you save to bounce three creatures at instant speed instead of returning one from the grave at the beginning of your upkeep. Unless playing against a discard deck or heavily living from the grave this seems better. (And I hate me for suggesting this because: Khans! Man I love this block! But I think Together Forever is the better option here as it has another use (Support) and costs less, while Palace Siege... I don't think I'd ever use it for the Dragons so it's really only one option for 3BB.
2 months ago
I'm afraid you can't have your cake and eat it in this case. You're right in your first paragraph when you say you have to declare targets for Palace Siege as its trigger goes on the stack at the beginning of your upkeep. You can respond to that trigger with Hell's Caretaker since it is your upkeep, which puts it on top of the stack so that it resolves first, but you can't get that activation's sacrificed creature into the graveyard before Palace Siege's trigger goes on the stack.
2 months ago
Hi there, I have a simple Question.
Due to the fact that I can only use Hell's Caretaker ability on my upkeep, I was wondering how it works with triggert abilities on my upkeep. Cause they trigger at the beginning of my upkeep and I have to declare a target for Palace Siege (on Khans mode)... right?
2 months ago
Kokusho isn't terrible, but becomes much better if you have a way to keep bringing him back. You could work in things like Victimize, Dread Return, or Stitch Together. However, you do have Phyrexian Reclamation, which also works. Another option, albeit slower, is Palace Siege.