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As Palace Siege enters the battlefeild, choose Khans or Dragons.
- Khans — At the beginning of your upkeep, return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
- Dragons — At the beginning of your upkeep, each opponent loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
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Palace Siege Discussion
1 day ago
Hey RijtBart. Thank you for your reply.
Personally - and this is purely a matter of personal preference - would dump Diabolic Tutor for Skyshroud Claim. Here is why: Demonic Tutor is way better. If you're going to have a tutor, budget really dosen't matter anymore. And more importantly: Tutors are garbage in casual play and I really hate them. Getting out the combo pieces is just unfair and unfun for everyone. Most ppl would (and frequently do) heavily disagree with me on that point but I do not change my mind on that. (Magic is - to a good degree - a game of chance, even more in commander, and I don't think this is bad.) But here is the thing: I don't see the need for more ramp. Kodama + Cultivate is imo fine. I never had any serious mana problems with this deck.
As for Together Forever, this is a tricky one. Palace Siege is the first I think of. You can invest the 3 you save to bounce three creatures at instant speed instead of returning one from the grave at the beginning of your upkeep. Unless playing against a discard deck or heavily living from the grave this seems better. (And I hate me for suggesting this because: Khans! Man I love this block! But I think Together Forever is the better option here as it has another use (Support) and costs less, while Palace Siege... I don't think I'd ever use it for the Dragons so it's really only one option for 3BB.
1 week ago
I'm afraid you can't have your cake and eat it in this case. You're right in your first paragraph when you say you have to declare targets for Palace Siege as its trigger goes on the stack at the beginning of your upkeep. You can respond to that trigger with Hell's Caretaker since it is your upkeep, which puts it on top of the stack so that it resolves first, but you can't get that activation's sacrificed creature into the graveyard before Palace Siege's trigger goes on the stack.
1 week ago
Hi there, I have a simple Question.
Due to the fact that I can only use Hell's Caretaker ability on my upkeep, I was wondering how it works with triggert abilities on my upkeep. Cause they trigger at the beginning of my upkeep and I have to declare a target for Palace Siege (on Khans mode)... right?
1 week ago
Kokusho isn't terrible, but becomes much better if you have a way to keep bringing him back. You could work in things like Victimize, Dread Return, or Stitch Together. However, you do have Phyrexian Reclamation, which also works. Another option, albeit slower, is Palace Siege.
3 weeks ago
cards to consider adding: Exsanguinate, Debt to the Deathless, Death Grasp, Profane Command, Devil's Play, Fall of the Titans, Dictate of the Twin Gods, Exquisite Blood, Furnace of Rath, Curse of Bloodletting, Havoc Festival, Hissing Miasma, Price of Knowledge, Palace Siege, Repercussion, Heartless Hidetsugu, Personal Sanctuary, Land Tax
cards to consider dropping: Vampiric Touch, Blind Obedience, Athreos, God of Passage, Combustible Gearhulk, Mother of Runes, Queen Marchesa, Scab-Clan Berserker, Selfless Spirit, Vampire Nighthawk, & you probably have a few too many targeted creature removal spells
1 month ago
Last_Laugh - Thanks for all of those suggestions. I believe your deck was actually one of the ones I initially looked at when considering how to build Muldrotha. It's a pretty great blueprint. What is your opinion on cards Vedalken Orrery and Leyline of Anticipation in this deck? They are a nonbo with Muldrotha, but they speed up the rest of the deck.
SaifurCommander - Thanks for the comment. I have actually considered Grave Pact type cards and ultimately opted to leave them out. While I was initially building the deck, I found that card space is at a premium. I chose to leave those cards out mainly because while my deck does run a decent amount of sacrifice effects, it isn't really dedicated to that archetype. I opted to include either cards that advanced my main focus, or cards that synergized well with Muldrotha. Palace Siege seems like a good option so I will definitely consider that.
1 month ago
Have you considered things like Grave Pact or Dictate of Erebos? Maybe Leyline of the Void? This way, when you sac creatures, your opponents have to as well, and, unlike you, they won't be able to get them back.
And, for recursion, something like Palace Siege could be good as well.
1 month ago
How effective has the mana-doubling package been for you? Mirari's Wake is good but Zendikar Resurgent/Vorinclex seem really slow! Mana dorks like Somberwald Sage, Shaman of Forgotten Ways and Frontier Siege would be more helpful.
I think you may not need so many boardwipes as you are playing the Aggro role instead of the Control one. Earthquake doubles as a wincon, Cyclonic Rift/Crux of Fate is good, but I'd cut the rest. Living Death can be a wincon as well if you have Dragon Tempest or Scourge of Valkas in the GY with the rest of your dragons.
Instead of Lightning Greaves and Swiftfoot boots, you may want to consider using field wide haste enablers like Fervor and Fires of Yavimaya. You can protect your field with Steely Resolve and Asceticism.