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Yawgmoth's Will Discussion
1 week ago
After testing, you all are right. I use Yawgmoth's Will and Memory's Journey to storm off in my graveyard as a wincon, and though I might be able to do the same with Nexus and Pheldagrif. I was mistaken.
Thank you all!
1 week ago
Hmmm some cards that might be helpful that I could think of in a cEDH environment would be something like Yawgmoth's Will, Hurkyl's Recall/Rebuild (If going against heavy artifact ramp or stax), Fire Covenant (as a selective removal), Stifle/Trickbind/Disallow (Targeting fetches T1 hurts combo player A LOT), Lim-Dul's Vault (can be great to dig), or Noxious Revival (in the situation things gets awry and your stuff got countered can also double as targeting opponent's Protean Hulk or other targets).
I also see that you are running Path over Swords, I would swap it the other way around as you don't want to give them land advantage.
1 week ago
I saw that you added the cycling lands, but then removed Life from the Loam. That is a mistake. You can return the cycle lands and have draw two on a stick. I can understand the other dredgers since you aren’t going for a fast kill, but the loam package seems to fit the speed you are playing at. With Underrealm Lich ,for two mana, you are looking at six cards and doing this on other players turns. It also makes it easy to return Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, which make your win a lot easier. Also, if you are going to play Razaketh, the Foulblooded you should partner him up with his buddy Life / Death. It fits into exactly what you are doing. It allows you to return razaketh, setup the winning turn, and even gives you a mini Bitter Ordeal bomb. Interesting deck. Had a similar idea, except it was a bit more expensive because it required Gaea's Cradle Yawgmoth's Will and Earthcraft. If you want to take the razaketh line further Songs of the Damned might allow you to combo the turn you assembled razaketh and Life / Death.
2 weeks ago
Arcan1s_666, that's a very good question. I'm honestly not sure - I have something of a mental loop where I try to think about what to replace, and then I just go back to "But the Invocation Doomsday looks so pretty and flavorful!"
But honestly it would likely be more interaction first and foremost. Maybe more draw that doesn't rely on discard.
The full Doomsday package is: Doomsday, Laboratory Maniac, Lion's Eye Diamond, Gitaxian Probe, Gush, Deep Analysis and Yawgmoth's Will. Yawgwin is too good to remove on its own, so that stays regardless (even though the foil is going to cost me...). Gush is also pretty great. So is Deep Analysis. So we really only have ~4 cards to play with.
My Maybeboard is pretty filled with ideas. The biggest weakness of the deck right now is lack of creature defenses. I have some, but not a lot. Evacuation would be a great include - I would get to re-cast Bolas, and most of my opponents get hosed worse just because I'm so creature-light. And it's instant speed, which is always a bonus. Warped Devotion and Words of Wind would be interesting. Devotion hits me too, though, so it's still iffy. I keep wanting to run it (I already own a couple foils, it's cheap), but I need to have a good density of bounce and some way to make sure I'm not suffering worse. I suppose I'm not running a ton of permanents and that might be helpful. Archfiend of Depravity might be nice too, to help keep the enemy creature count low.
Of course, a different combo would also be possible. Worldgorger Dragon, likely with Flash as an enabler, works with Animate Dead and ETB-untapped lands to generate infinite mana. As long as you can stop the loop (usually by reanimating something else), you can make infinite mana for a Torment of Hailfire win. It's compact, uses mostly cards that are not dead outside of the combo, but it's also pretty risky and vulnerable to interaction - it generates mana for opponents too if they have ETB-untapped lands.
Lastly, I could just add a few more tutors. Getting Geth's Grimoire or Waste Not on the field is pretty important to the rest of the deck. Tutors help with that, and with finding the win condition when it's time.
Those are my current thoughts, anyway.
2 weeks ago
I'm over a year late, but this deck has 56 lands because you don't need any more spells than this. You only need storm count of 60 to kill a full table at full life, which is perfectly attainable at this spell count with Yawgmoth's Will. It is also important to note that if your average cmc is too high or if you have too many cards that cost more than 0 then Ad Nauseam will kill you if you try to combo.
2 weeks ago
Here might be some recommendations that you might find useful.
Hope that helps!
3 weeks ago
Sorry I seem to have not replied in a timely manner to your questions. My mistake.
Mission Briefing will work in Doomsday piles. However since you have to cast it for , it's not solving anything in particular that DD has trouble with. But you can do some cute lines with it. Admittedly I never really explored it much but I give that more to adding total CMC to a pile over the surveil. It could be quite nifty with Gush, like you said.
You can play without Lion's Eye Diamond. Predict + Unearth piles are the go-to for that kind of stuff. Alternatively, Mission Briefing can also help you there but it's not drawing any cards so you need to pile with it after you draw 2 (like Yawgmoth's Will), or just have it in hand.
Another solution is proxy up Lion's Eye Diamond. Sadly cEDH is approaching Vintage levels of being prohibitively expensive to play, and I think to play the deck you want it's really reasonable to proxy up the card.
3 weeks ago
You might want to have a look at Ghoulcaller's Bell, Codex Shredder, Pyxis of Pandemonium, Lantern of Insight, Isochron Scepter and Dramatic Reversal. Also Mnemonic Betrayal (Yawgmoth's Will for your opponents' cards) is really good when you mill. I would reconsider the mana rocks you have, especially since you are missing the cheap (money-wise) but good ones such as Fellwar Stone, Talisman of Dominance, Dimir Signet. Dark Ritual is a must play.