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Diabolic Tutor Discussion
15 hours ago
Based on my own experience in multi-player format I can say that you definitely need more board wipes: Damnation , Languish , Ritual of Soot , Cyclonic Rift (one of my favorite), Evacuation , Toxic Deluge or Black Sun's Zenith (to deal with indestructible creatures) etc. The choice depends on your meta. You also need tutors: Vampiric Tutor , Demonic Tutor , Diabolic Tutor etc. Dimir Signet , Dimir Keyrune - for mana stabilizing. I recommend to take out Unmoored Ego - it seems useless in EDH. Some ideas for card draw: Phyrexian Arena (classic!), Necropotence (a great card believe me), Twilight Prophet (I'm crazy about this card in Standard and I think it has a great potential in EDH), Doom Whisperer (another great card from Guilds of Ravnica). Good luck in brewing!
1 day ago
Here you go NotAsGood:
Mono Black Casual- 4x Dark Ritual , 2x Terror 4x Hymn to Tourach , 4x hypnotic spector, 4x Mind Twist 4x Drain Life , 4x Black Knight , 4x Order of the Ebon Hand , 2x Greed , 2x Diabolic Tutor , 2x Howl from Beyond 4x Contract from Below and 20x Swamp
1 week ago
I suggest you add some graveyard hate in case your opponents have a way to recur back their cards (Living Death, Scrap Mastery, Sun Titan, etc.), like Crook of Condemnation, Relic of Progenitus, Nihil Spellbomb or Leyline of the Void (if you have the $$$). You already have Bojuka Bog, so nice choice :). I love the Whip of Erebos and Phyrexian Reclamation to get back my own creatures and some instants or sorceries put them back directly (one-time only though): Cauldron Dance, Torrent of Souls, Rise from the Grave. Beacon of Unrest is very nice and versatile. If you have the budget, Sheoldred, Whispering One is very effective and Goryo's Vengeance can be useful. Shallow Grave, Animate Dead and Necromancy are other options too. For mass-reanimation, use Rise of the Dark Realms, Liliana Vess or Liliana, Death Wielder. If you like the discard theme, pretty much all specters have an ability related to that, but of course they aren't of the tribes you want with your commander. Also, if you play black, I think tutors are a must, because they are the best in the game since only Beseech the Queen reveals the tutored card in black (well, I think so). So Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Mastermind's Acquisition, Dark Petition, Diabolic Revelation, Increasing Ambition and the good old budget Diabolic Tutor are among options.
1 week ago
- Phyrexian Plaguelord
- Avenger of Zendikar
- Noxious Gearhulk
- Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker
- Praetor's Counsel
- Beastcaller Savant
- Blood Bairn
- Olivia's Dragoon
- Nezumi Graverobber
- Final Parting
- Diabolic Tutor
- Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
From some test plays, Greater Good + my infinite green mana loop can draw my deck very easily, only problem is running out of black mana, so I wanted to try address both the pain of death to self mill and a better option for right now to get black mana.
So addition of Kozilek can help me :
1) Gitrog Card Draw Combo when I acquire gitrog for deck,
2) allow me avoid self mill from greater good,
3) if I havent used Songs of the Damned yet, can help me acquire a large amount of black mana by rotating through my deck.
Olivia's Dragoon is an instant speed discard outlet which like Kozilek will help me with Gitrog Card Draw Combo.
Blood Bairn is a cheaper no cost sac outlet and pumps herself which can work nicely with Greater Good.
Final Parting + Diabolic Tutor more cheap tutors for deck, Final Parting is nice as it puts stuff into grave.
Nezumi Graverobber is added in more specifically to play graveyard hate as deadeye tracker is not multi use in 1 turn.
Removed Avenger of Zen as it was more a midrange card combo option with world shaker, but is too slow due to the summon sickness on the plants.
Removed Praetor's Counsel, as being able to discard to handsize is beneficial and a filled graveyard is far more valuable to Meren, was solely a "fun" card due to stupid hand size when played.
Removed Noxious Gearhulk as its cmc is too high for what you get in return.
Removed Shirei as it was far to much setup to get the value out of him, too slow to get value out of him and was never a card I tutored for.
Removed Plaguelord due to it being a rather high cmc sac outlet, may end up being put back in as it does help clear boards and kill indestructible creatures.
1 week ago
eliakimras Thank you so much for the suggestions, I will add some of these cards for sure!
Exotic and Cascading cost more than 1 dólar, here we are talking low my friend rs
I really like the suggestion of the tri-lands, I remmenber they being more expensive, maybe the price dropped or was only here in my country, thanks.
I totally aggre with the Guildgate statement.
About the double mana, there are very specific spells like Twilight's Call, Diabolic Tutor and Rally the Ancestors but I'll see what I can do about Harmonize even this card don't cause me trouble to cast. Any suggestions about the double collored costs?
1 week ago
Since you're in 5-colors, it might be wise to run Exotic Orchard (often you get 4 or 5 colors on this land), Cascading Cataracts (for General Tazri's ability) and Battlefield Forge. // Also, Arcane Sanctum, Crumbling Necropolis, Savage Lands, Seaside Citadel and Murmuring Bosk (fetchable Forest) should replace the non-gate taplands: Bloodfell Caves, Dismal Backwater, Swiftwater Cliffs, Tranquil Cove and Wind-Scarred Crag. // You don't need to dedicate 10 guildgates to Circuitous Route, you just need 5 or 6 to have wide variety of options to fetch. Since this deck is heavy on green and white, you can take out the guildgates that don't generate green or white (Dimir Guildgate, Rakdos Guildgate, Izzet Guildgate) for Vivid Meadow, Vivid Grove and Vivid Crag, because these can give you all 5 colors. // It is better not to run spells that cost double mana of a splash color, like Diabolic Tutor (it might be hard to cast it when you want it).
2 weeks ago
For black, I would recommend Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Tutor, or if you're mana rich Diabolic Revelation. For white, I would recommend Enlightened Tutor if you could benefit looking for an artifact or enchantment. Tutors are a great way to grab needed cards for wincon combos. I would try and run as many cheap CMC black or white tutors I could. They can be expensive price wise, but worth it if you actually see yourself with the same commander later down the road. Or playing the same colors in a different build.
2 weeks ago
Dont know what you are trying to do with the deck since you have several cards for others builds in here.Dont see a use for Bloodbond Vampire since you not gaining much life.Bloodhusk Ritualist for my deck wasnt that good. Kheru Bloodsucker not worth since you dont have my creatures for it.No reason for him at all unless its a fillerSkeletal Changeling.Chainer's Edict feel like there are better things that do this. Planar Bridge tutors are better. Not the best for how you have this deck built right nowBlighted Fen. Geier Reach Sanitarium dont use lol. Piranha Marsh use a Swamp. Not worth it Sorin's Thirst. Wound Reflection great card but not made for this deck.
better land drawMikokoro, Center of the Sea
artifact: Sword of the Animist