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Creature — Zombie
When Phyrexian Delver enters the battlefield, return target creature card from your graveyard to play. You lose life equal to that card's converted mana cost.
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Phyrexian Delver Discussion
1 week ago
Kederekt Leviathan could be considered another win-con with how well it locks up the board. At worst it's a slightly worse Cyclonic Rift with a body and Unearth. At best it's a repeatable 3 mana instant speed boardwipe Kederekt Leviathan + Necromancy .
I've tried Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur. My main problem with it is it would usually punish one or two players to my left, and then die. I tend to prefer symmetrical effects as they make less enemies. Entomb is a recent addition so I may try Jin-Gitaxias again though.
Hermit Druid combo has always been one of my considerations, but it'd require a pretty big (expensive) deck overhaul. I can envision a version of this deck focused on disgusting Protean Hulk and Phyrexian Delver combos, but that's really not this version. I just want to hold 50 cards and feel like a Timmy right now.
Fine_Dough on Meren
3 weeks ago
Ok! I've got a lot of suggestions, so here goes.Alrighty, I'd recommend:
Razaketh, the Foulblooded (Weenies = Tutors.)
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed (Big combo daddy.)
Triskelion (Also combos with Mikaeus.)
Phyrexian Devourer (See above combo.)
Walking Ballista (The holy grail of combo pieces.)
Bayou (Very expensive, but worth picking up if you feel like affording it.)
Contamination (A mean green stax machine, you can infinite lock them with a token generator like any of the two above.)
Survival of the Fittest (The almighty god of hand sculpting.)
Mana Crypt (Another expensive one. It's very good, but very expensive, so if you don't wind up running it, it's perfectly understandable.)
Mox Diamond (The pricetags on these cards are ridiculous.)
And that is about it. Sorry for nuking you with all of these cards lmao but I would be very happy if I could help you out. And, of course, you don't have to use my suggestions, if you don't feel like it. After all, they're pretty pricey lol.
3 weeks ago
Sweet budget deck. Seems like a lot of fun!
About Pyromancer's Goggles: This card is really nice if you have many many red cards in deck, however, you only have 9 targets for the goggles of which only 4 to 5 are worth being copied and those cards won't make a huge game difference (except Ultimatum of course)
I'd rather suggest Dictate of Erebos for this deck since it's quite budgety and super effective! Phyrexian Delver or Body Snatcher are also great additions. Just cheat your creatures in instead of casting them. I would also play Outpost Siege or Impact Tremors (maybe also Blood Artist so every flickering is gonna have even more value. Some Sac Outlets like Goblin Bombardment or Ashnod's Altar can also help triggering your commanders ability and have nice synergies with the edict for example. Hope this helps!
3 weeks ago
Hi. The other day you and I were discussing the merits of running Mogis's Marauder VS Lightning Mauler in a UBGR Protean Hulk/Hermit Druid build, and I wanted to share a situation that popped up in testing that has caused me to lean more towards running the Mauler.
I was in a position where I was able to reanimate Protean Hulk with Apprentice Necromancer, but Walking Ballista was in my hand and I had just drawn Hermit Druid that turn. I had no counter magic in hand, but decided to try for the win anyway since I could try casting Hermit Druid for the win later if it didn't work out. I activated the Necromancer and then cast the Ballista with X = 1. The Ballista was countered, which meant that with Hermit Druid in my hand my two main Hulk lines were out of commission. So what I did instead was fetch out Lightning Mauler and Necrotic Ooze when the Hulk was sacrificed, and bonded the two to give them haste. I had Phantasmagorian in my graveyard and enough cards in hand to discard to its ability, which allowed me to discard the Hermit Druid in my hand, activate its ability with the Ooze, and combo out.
So the Mauler offers Hermit Druid a way to activate the turn it is cast, and it opens up two additional search options for Protean Hulk. If Body Double/Phyrexian Delver is in your hand, you can grab Lightning Mauler+Apprentice Necromancer+Wild Cantor+Viscera Seer -> give the Necromancer haste and activate it off the Cantor to reanimate the Hulk -> then sac the Hulk to the Seer and grab Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Walking Ballista to win. Or, if Hermit Druid has wound up in the graveyard before being activated due to an Abrupt Decay or something, the Hulk can fetch out the Mauler and Ooze.
Of course, if you are running Mogis's Marauder, then searching the Marauder + Necromancer + Seer can work just as well if you have the mana up to activate the Necromancer. But running Lightning Mauler so that you can also search up Wild Cantor offers a bit more consistency with the line, since it increases the chances that you'll have the mana you need for activation. Wild Cantor is a contestable include though, so I can understand why people wouldn't bother to run it. I guess that I'm just partial to it after running it in Animar for so long.
I don't know if any of this is relevant to any decks that you are currently working on, but I thought you might find it interesting anyway.
4 weeks ago
@n0bunga I'm currently testing out a list that runs that Flash Hulk line, except I use Body Double instead of Phyrexian Delver. The 5+ mana-cost creatures make it trickier to run Ad Nauseam and there are times where you have them stuck in your hand without being able to contribute to any of your other combo lines. Mikaeus can't even give HD persist to help save it from removal, so I've found him hard to even justify as a reanimation target. However, the combo line does offer you another option if one of the Mogis/HD package cards is stuck in your hand. Not sure if it is worth it though, unless you are like me and don't own a copy of Ad Nauseam.
@Lilbrudder On the topic of the Mogis/HD package, I want to ask your opinion on something. I'm running a similar list to this one, but I have Thrasios and Vial Smasher as my commanders, giving me access to red. Keeping in mind that having red lets me run Wild Cantor, would it be worth replacing Mogis's Marauder with Lightning Mauler? I would be able to grab HD, Lightning Mauler, Wild Cantor, and another 1 drop like Hapless Researcher, use the the Mauler to give HD haste, and sac Cantor for the mana to activate HD.
I'm trying to decide whether the Mauler or Marauder offers more utility. Mauler has the option of being played from hand turn 2, and then I can threaten to cast AND activate HD every turn after that. But with the Mauler, I'll only ever be able to give 1 other creature haste. The Maruader can work with Vial Smasher out of my command zone to help make sure that I'll always be able to give 2 creatures haste, so if Deathrite Shaman is in my graveyard I would still be able to search out another mana dork and give it haste to help activate HD. The Marauder would also let me use either the Shaman or Cantor to get the mana needed for HD, whereas the Mauler would only work with the Cantor. With the testing you and LabManiac_Sigi have done, which would you say is more convenient for how the deck usually plays out?
4 weeks ago
Had a thought about revisiting SBT, regarding Protein Bulk, how would this sequence be:
- Flash Hulk
- Grab Viscera Seer and Phyrexian Delver, returning hulk.
- Sac the hulk to Seer to grab Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Walking Ballista
Granted, it's a lot slower than the Mogis/HD Package.
1 month ago
Looking to build Kess when she comes out and I want to run creatures that on ETB either return spells to be used again or return my other creatures to play. I'm focusing on ETBs and would like help filling in the holes.
Ive got a couple on hand already:Anarchist, Charmbreaker Devils, Mnemonic Wall, Nucklavee , and Phyrexian Delver. Additionally I'll be getting Havengul Lich, bloodline necromaner, Archaeomancer and Izzet Chronarch in the wizard deck. But is there anything else I'm missing?
1 month ago
(Note: My playgroup is casual but with the heat turned up)
In playing AINT NO PARTY like an UNDEAD party.., I have taken a liking to getting out my general and Rooftop Storm, and then casting Sidisi, Undead Vizier, exploiting Sidisi to herself, and getting a bunch of free bodies out. I search out Possessed Skaab, Phyrexian Delver, and Gravespawn Sovereign, return sidisi to my hand, cast sidisi again. I re-use sidisi as much as I can, Including once from the general. The last thing I plop down is Gray Merchant of Asphodel for a big effect.
I'm planning on adding Gravedigger, and Sibsig Muckdraggers as additional creatures to chain together. I'm also going to add Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Phyrexian Reclamation, Havengul Lich and Panharmonicon to help enable the overall plan. Don't really want to run Ghoulraiser since it's random and my grave is likely to be somewhat full.
I was wondering if there are any creatures (they have to be zombies for it to work, since it relies on Rooftop Storm allowing me to cast for free) that I missed that have an effect like Gravedigger.
If anything else pops into your brain related to the shenanigans I'd love to hear that as well.