Vengeful Dead

Vengeful Dead

Creature — Zombie

Whenever Vengeful Dead or another Zombie dies, each opponent loses 1 life.

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Set Rarity
Scourge (SCG) Common

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Legality

Format Legality
Leviathan Legal
Highlander Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Pauper Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Noble Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
2019-10-04 Legal

Vengeful Dead occurrence in decks from the last year

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Vengeful Dead Discussion

multimedia on Tainted soil

3 months ago

Hey, I don't want you to feel like you're being ganged up in the comments of your deck. I am and Arcaia also are simply trying to get you to better understand card quality. When you have such a high budget then card quality becomes an excellent way to improve your deck because you don't have to worry as much about the cost of a deck which lets you play the best cards and cut the subpar ones.

First let me start by saying I've been wrong saying to cut Havengul Lich. Not for reasons you're describing, but because it's a combo piece. Overall for five mana Havengul is not a good card, but with Zombies it's a combo with Rooftop Storm + Phyrexian Altar/Ashnod's Altar to cast all the Zombies on your turn from all graveyards. Add any other card that cares about casting spells, creatures dying or creatures ETB for lots of value. Use Sidisi, Undead Vizier with this combo to tutor for Gravecrawler and then Diregraf Captain as the win condition. Or simply loop cast/sac Vengeful Dead/Gray Merchant of Asphodel as a win condition.


Arcaia explained Havengul, activated abilities have a colon ( : ) in the text. The ability on the card has a cost first, then a : and last an effect ( [Cost]: [Effect] ). Sometimes the cost requires tapping the creature which will show a on the left side of the colon. If there isn't a colon then it's not an activated ability.

Arcaia left out one thing when explaining Havengul, you can't use an activated ability for a creature for only one mana without support. Instead it's one mana to activate Havengul, then you have to pay additional mana to cast the creature. Overall Havengul for a five drop requires a lot of additional mana to get anything meaningful from it which lowers the quality of the card a lot. That's why Havengul has good interaction with Rooftop Storm and Zombies since Rooftop takes away needing to pay mana to cast the Zombie after you activate Havengul.

With Rooftop and Havengul you can indeed for one mana cast a Zombie from a graveyard. And each Zombie you cast for the turn from a graveyard only costs one mana. This lets you cast as many Zombies in graveyards equal to as much mana you have available. Havengul is good with Rooftop, but only with Rooftop, that makes it less good as a five drop overall, less quality than some other fives drops that are also in the deck.

Good job winning with Gravecrawler, it's most likely the best Zombie in Magic. This will be my last comment here.

multimedia on Tainted soil

3 months ago

Hey, looks like your going for a Zombie tribal theme.

Going to have to make some sacrifices of five drop Zombies and here's some advice. Sidisi, Undead Vizier, Gray Merchant of Asphodel and The Scarab God are the only three you need the rest could be cut. Muldrotha, Grave Titan, Rooftop Storm and Liliana, Dreadhorde General are the only six drops you need.

I have a Zombie tribal Muldrotha deck that I made last year, Zombie Grave Wave (Budget). My deck is budget, $200, but it could give you some ideas and you can replace the budget alternatives I'm using with more expensive price cards that you have. More advice to improve your deck is to include Gravecrawler infinite combos since it's a Zombie.

Gravecrawler + Phyrexian Altar + Diregraf Captain/Plague Belcher/Bontu's Monument/Blood Artist/Vengeful Dead is an infinite combo to make all your opponents lose life. Sac Gravecrawler with Altar, use the one black mana to cast Gravecrawler from your graveyard and repeat. Gravecrawler + Altar is infinite casts of Gravecrawler from your graveyard which can be used with other cards. Diregraf Colossus is infinite 2/2 Zombies. Undead Augur/Secrets of the Dead/Guardian Project can draw into a win condition. Kill all your opponents creatures with Grave Pact.


Cards to consider cutting:

To also make room for more lands and other card upgrades this is more than 13 card suggestions to consider cutting. Many of these suggestions are good cards, but are very much outclassed by other better cards in your deck already or you could add with such a high budget.

20x total lands is not enough for a functioning Commander deck. Want at least 30-36 lands depending on how high the avg. CMC of your deck is and how many additional mana sources you include. The current avg. CMC is 3.7 which is too high. What's making it this high is too many high CMC Zombies especially five drops.

I offer more advice if you would like. Good luck with your deck.

Prospekt on Sultai Self-Mill

3 months ago

Okay so here's a bunch of suggestions that fit Gyruda's requirement and then some things to then take out.

Put in: Arcane Signet, Wake the Dead, Gravespawn Sovereign, Embalmer's Tools, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Disciple of Bolas, Forgotten Creation, Notion Thief, Oversold Cemetery, Skull Prophet, Clever Impersonator, Garruk Relentless  Flip, The Cauldron of Eternity, Sire of Stagnation, and Razaketh, the Foulblooded. The cards in your maybeboard seem good too.

Take out: Cranial Archive, Enhanced Surveillance, Devious Cover-Up, Gather the Pack, Migratory Greathorn, Polukranos, Unchained, Shepherd of Rot, Vengeful Dead, Void Beckoner, and all petitioners.

In terms of land, there are a lot of cheap options to include that will make a three color deck a lot better: Choked Estuary, Sunken Hollow, Botanical Sanctum, Blooming Marsh, Fetid Pools, Hissing Quagmire, Drowned Catacomb, Hinterland Harbor, Woodland Cemetery, Bad River, Ash Barrens, Dakmor Salvage, Exotic Orchard, Witch's Cottage, and stuff like that. Replace the guildgates and bounce lands and a few basics with those if you can.

And lastly if you want to run the petitioners then you should put more of them in, otherwise having just 8 won't do a whole lot for you most of the time other than for fun.

Vlasiax on The Everchanging Zombie Army Demand A Queen

5 months ago

How about switching Vengeful Dead for Corpse Knight? Also there's Undead Augur that I'd swap for maybe Phyrexian Arena

TitaniumTP on K'rrick Kobain and his Monster Mash

9 months ago

Let's get down to business, shall we?

DELETE THIS

Venser's Journal , Mindcrank , Armillary Sphere , Dash Hopes , Doomblade, Street Wraith , Leshrac's Sigil ,

QUESTIONABLE

Noosegraf Mob , Phyrexian Reclamation , Kaya's Ghostform , Blood Tribute , Whip of Erebos , Armillary Sphere , Reiver Demon , Pestilence Demon , Magus of the Mirror , Endling , Bloodthirsty Aerialist

At first glance these are what I think you should delete and think about deleting.


COMBO TIME

I notice that you have combo potential with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed . The only 2 card combo with him is Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Triskelion . All other combos with him require 4 pieces.

  1. The man (zombie?) himself: Mikaeus, the Unhallowed

  2. Sac outlet - Viscera Seer , - Ashnod's Altar , - Carrion Feeder ,

  3. The Sacrifice (something with persist, or that can somehow remove the +1/+1 counter from Mikaeus, the Unhallowed ) - Lesser Masticore , - Putrid Goblin , - Skinrender if you put the 3 -1/-1 counters on itself each time it enters, - Puppeteer Clique , - Lingering Tormentor ,

  4. ALL THESE TRIGGERS - Bitter Ordeal for infinite exiling of decks, - Falkenrath Noble for infinite damage, - Vindictive Vampire for infinite damage, - Zulaport Cutthroat for infinite damage, - Vengeful Dead for infinite damage, only if sacrificed creature is a zombie, - Blood Artist for infinite damage, - Pitiless Plunderer for infinite mana, - Pawn of Ulamog for infinite colorless mana, - Deathgreeter for infinite life, - Smothering Abomination for infinite card draw,

MORE COMBO

You also have the 3 piece combo of

  1. Sanguine Bond
  2. Exquisite Blood
  3. Anything that either causes you to gain life, or an opponent to lose life - Leechridden Swamp , - Ebony Charm , - Death Cultist , - Nightmare's Thirst

I recommend using instant speed interaction for the 3rd piece of the combo, so you can respond to removal by winning

If you decide to follow The Way of The Combo, you should also add library searching effectz to help make sure you always find your pieces.


LIBRARY SEARCHIN EFFECTZ

Expedition Map for finding lands for ramp, or combo pieces if you go for the aforementioned Leechridden Swamp combo Scheming Symmetry , Behold the Beyond , Demonic Collusion , Diabolic Tutor , Final Parting , Mastermind's Acquisition , Doomsday , Demonic Collusion , Dark Petition

The more combo and storm heavy your deck is, the more search library cards you will want to add.

EXTORT OP

Basilica Screecher , Thrull Parasite , Syndicate Enforcer

Nothing much to add here, but extort is so broken in this deck. Extort will be extra powerful in storm builds.


Okay, it's Mana Time

Caged Sun

COOL LANDS

Castle Locthwain , swamp with benefits, Thespian's Stage , can become a copy of other dank lands like Temple of the False God and Cabal Stronghold , Crystal Vein , pop it on the turn where you're going to try and win, Westvale Abbey  Flip, potential wincon, Leechridden Swamp , potential combo piece and also fun to use with leftover mana, Bottomless Vault , probably sucks but you could use it in a storm deck, Memorial to Folly , Mortuary Mire , Temple of the False God , Myriad Landscape , ramp that looks like a land

Mana Rocks

Cryptolith Fragment  Flip probably not good, Thran Dynamo , super epic, Hedron Archive , Prismatic Lens , Fractured Powerstone , you know you want this for the planeschase ability, Sisay's Ring , Ur-Golem's Eye , Liliana of the Dark Realms , Nirkana Revenant , Paradise Plume , Magus of the Coffers , Black Market

For mana rocks you want the best bang for your buck, since you can just pay life instead of {B}. I like the mana rocks that cost {4} but tap for {2}, and the ones that cost {2} and tap for {1}. The more control heavy your deck is, the more rocks you want.

Ramp

Wayfarer's Bauble , Burnished Hart

Lots of Mana Fast

Cabal Ritual , Bubbling Muck , Spoils of Evil , Culling the Weak , Sacrifice , Dark Ritual , Songs of the Damned

Getting giant bursts of mana is good in any mono Black deck, but you should invest more heavily the more combo and storm themed your deck is, since you want to pop off in a single turn and cast 1,000 spells.

Investments

Basal Sliver , Blood Pet , Bog Witch , Overeager Apprentice , Basal Thrull , Priest of Yawgmoth , Blood Vassal , Soldevi Adnate

A lot of these cards that are single time use mana sources would be great in a storm deck where you would just build up your load until you bust damage all over the faces of those unfortunate enough to be within 50m of you. They're also good in reanimation decks, which could utilize Phyrexian Reclamation to keep getting them back.

Summary:

The more control heavy your deck is, the more mana rocks you want. If you're going for combos then you want more quick mana. The only land I'm gonna have to 100% recommend is Thespian's Stage . Keep in mind that the more nonbasic lands you have in your deck, the less useful cards like Crypt Ghast and Cabal Stronghold will be.


TRIBAL

Zombie Tribal

Corpse Harvester , library search, Cemetery Reaper , lord, Undead Warchief , epic lord, Josu Vess, Lich Knight , wincon, Endless Ranks of the Dead , wincon, Death Baron , lord, Liliana's Mastery , lord, Graveborn Muse , card draw, Zombie Master , protection, Graf Harvest , team evasion, Fleshbag Marauder , saccy, Phyrexian Delver , recovery, Cryptbreaker , card draw, Lord of the Accursed , lord, Shepherd of Rot , hurty everyone, Stronghold Assassin , funny removal, Loyal Subordinate , Liliana, Death's Majesty , potential finisher, Grave Titan , Open the Graves , board wipe protection, especially good if you're going all in on creature aggro, Curse of Disturbance , Awaken the Erstwhile , once you're in an advantageous position just cast this and watch your opponents cry, Tombstone Stairwell , this would be especially epic if you have cards to buff your boys, Risen Executioner , lord

Some cards that could be spicy in zombie tribal. Epic combos would be lords such as Cemetery Reaper and Lord of the Accursed , and fatties such as Army of the Damned and Josu Vess, Lich Knight . Having tons of zombies also combos with Pontiff of Blight . I think that Eldrazi Monument in a zombie build is nightmare fuel.

Vampire Tribal

Sanctum Seeker , Kalastria Highborn , Blade of the Bloodchief , Bloodlord of Vaasgoth , Malakir Bloodwitch , Bloodline Keeper  Flip, Gatekeeper of Malakir , Nirkana Revenant , Drana, Liberator of Malakir , Sadistic Skymarcher , Defiant Bloodlord , Yahenni, Undying Partisan , Butcher of Malakir , Cordial Vampire , Bloodtracker ,

If you decide vampire tribal is better, here are some options. I would only play cards like Blood Tribute if you're going vampire tribal, I don't think it's worth to play unless you can get more value than just chopping 1 player's life in half.

To Go with Your Creature Spam, Sir...

Dowsing Dagger  Flip, Mask of Memory , Necropolis Regent , Bloodforged Battle-Axe , Explorer's Scope , Throne of the God-Pharaoh , Whip of Erebos

Buff My Team!

Sword of the Paruns , Intimidation , Death Pit Offering , Eldrazi Monument , Obelisk of Urd

Summary:

The more of one tribe you have, the more synergy you have. Only include lords if you're all in on that tribe.


REMOVAL

Targeted Removal

Hero's Downfall , Vraska's Contempt , Murder , Murderous Rider , Noxious Gearhulk , Malicious Affliction , New Blood , Ruinous Path , Tendrils of Corruption , Bone Splinters , Liturgy of Blood

Epic Board Wipes

Decree of Pain , Crux of Fate , Kindred Dominance , Bontu's Last Reckoning , Do or Die , Hellfire , Necromantic Selection

Summary: Use more board wipes the more control heavy you want your deck to be. Try to choose targeted removal such that the end cost will only be {1} and some life, so that it will be as cheap as possible. This is especially important in storm builds. Since we play multiplayer quite a bit, you'll probably want to add extra board wipes, especially the ones that draw you cards or come bundled with reanimation.


Wow, I Hate Minorities

Wow, I hate tokens

Ritual of Soot , Force of Despair

Wow, Green is Cancer

Perish

Wow, I hate when other people play spells

Painful Quandary

Wow, I hate when other people attack me

No Mercy , Dread , Koskun Falls

Wow, I hate myself

Season of the Witch (okay, maybe not that much Revenge of Ravens )

Wow, I hate lifegain

Tainted Remedy , False Cure

Wow, I hate real board wipes

Sudden Spoiling , Mutilate , Languish , Massacre Girl , Golden Demise

Wow, I hate burst damage

Palace Siege , Polluted Bonds

Wow, I hate my opponents having creatures

Dictate of Erebos , Grave Pact , Butcher of Malakir

Wow, I hate this one person in particular

Curse of Vengeance , Trespasser's Curse , Curse of Fool's Wisdom


Lifegain

Profane Memento , Crypt Incursion , Vampiric Link , Loxodon Warhammer , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Cavalier of Night , Whip of Erebos

Protection

Rush of Vitality

Benefit from Death

Ogre Slumlord , Shadows of the Past

Cool Card Draw

Moonlight Bargain , Promise of Power , Succumb to Temptation , Ransack the Lab , Infernal Contract , Necrologia , Carnival of Souls , Grim Haruspex , Night's Whisper , Succumb to Temptation , Phyrexian Etchings , Cruel Bargain , Dark Deal , Foreboding Fruit , Live Fast , Painful Lesson , Necropotence

Add more card draw the more stormy you want your deck to be. Also try to add ones that will cost the least amount of mana if you take your commander's ability into account.

Card Draw Requiring Sacrifice

Altar's Reap , Costly Plunder , Morbid Curiosity , Bankrupt in Blood , Skulltap , Merciless Resolve

These will be better in decks where you're sure you'll have tons of creatures. So adding these into zombie tribal would probably be a good idea, since you have things like Army of the Damned and Josu Vess, Lich Knight that produce a million tokens.


Storm Build Cards

Aphotic Wisps , Cremate , Succumb to Temptation , Yawgmoth's Will , Ill-Gotten Gains , Priest of Forgotten Gods , Skirge Familiar , Rain of Filth , Dredge , Gravebind , Nighthaze , Street Wraith

The idea of a storm deck is to cast as many spells in one turn as possible, building up a fat storm counter to execute all who oppose us with our 3 finishers, which are Aetherflux Reservoir , Tendrils of Agony and perhaps Empty the Pits . You'll want lots of cheap spells that only cost {B} mana and replace themselves, such as Aphotic Wisps . One time use mana is also dank here, such as Dark Ritual and Cabal Ritual , and creatures like Basal Thrull and Soldevi Adnate .


Win Cons to think about

Flagellum on Trying to decide on next …

1 year ago

Hi y'all! So I've decided to retire/melt my Breya deck which is chuck full of infinite combos and most artifact goodstuff like Arcum Dagsson , Master Transmuter , Ethersworn Canonist ECT. Despite the land base being fine (few basics, only shard etb tapped lands) color fixing can still be an issue in a 4 color deck. I run exclusively combo decks for the most part so a slight change from that would be nice but not required. I also wouldn't mind sticking with an artifact theme as I already likely own the main pieces. Still like to keep it on the more budget friendlier side.

The ideas I had:

Artifact Themed

Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain : still on theme, still combo. But only dual colored instead of 4. There's the cheeri0s glass cannon version but I havent found a more value centric deck that works better.

Sydri, Galvanic Genius : drops a color and still on theme. This one is more mana intensive than Breya was most likely but the neat little interactions seem amusing like with Caltrops or turning a mana rock into a deathtrap.

Arcum Dagsson : mono colored but way too much hate will be drawn. Missing some non budget pieces that would make him shine (and less of a budget is available as not much would be melted). Same applies to Urza.

Spellslinger Themed

Feather, the Redeemed : seems amusing but wouldnt be geared towards voltron as much due in part of my previous experience with Karlov and Rafiq. But I do miss my Zada deck which this is reminiscent of that I dismantled for Purphoros. It would also be my only spellslinger oriented deck. Own most the cards too as a plus.

Aggro/Combo

Varina, Lich Queen : esper zombies. Seems amusing and is a bit different. I do like all the Vengeful Dead type effects recently added that punish those who would wipe out the horde.

omnikon2 on Varina, Lich Queen Esper Zombies

1 year ago

Added Land Tax , Rhystic Study and Phyrexian Altar .

Phyrexian Altar is going to make more of my endless combos easier to get onto the board. Phyrexian Altar + Gravecrawler + Zulaport Cutthroat or Wayward Servant , Vengeful Dead all have the same effect of dealing with all your enemies at once if not interrupted.

Also a fun combo is Phyrexian Altar + Gravecrawler + Grave Pact .

slippage on Scarab mill

1 year ago

Love your deck I have had so many iterations on the mill reanimator zombie deck and am quite surprised this is your first. I just posted my The Greatest Zombie Apocalypse of Them All and they are definitely on the right idea for the essence of what zombie is all about. I go deep into the Vengeful Dead strategy so not as much mill but we are brothers in brains.

The interesting part is you aren't running Phenax, God of Deception where as I'm running that as my only mill condition. If you look at the numbers though, it is very effective to go ahead with a typical strategy of just generating bazonkers zombies and then using the phenax ability to apply pressure in the case of a stalemate... Phenax is great too if you are running Consuming Aberration and in no case would not be running it

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