Ill-Gotten Gains

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Format Legality
Noble Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Conspiracy (CNS) Rare
Urza's Saga (USG) Rare

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Ill-Gotten Gains

Sorcery

Each player discards his or her hand, then returns up to three cards from his or her graveyard to his or her hand.

Remove Ill-Gotten Gains from the game.

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Ill-Gotten Gains Discussion

Razulghul on Liliana, Discard or Tokens?

3 weeks ago

For sure discard! Necrogen Mists, Anvil of Bogardan, Waste Not, Memory Jar, Geth's Grimoire, Ill-Gotten Gains and Leyline of the Void.

I'd probably add a lot of good stuff aswell and use reanimation to win over relying on Liliana's Caress effects. So like Massacre Wurm, Rune-Scarred Demon, Grave Titan etc.

cgomes on *Primer* Night of the Living Stax

1 month ago

xEth0sx, I've finished reading the description of your Gisa deck and I think I can help you with it. I'll talk about some of my impressions about your primer first, then I'll go over some of your card choices and I'll tell you about a few cards I think should be in the deck.

As far as primers go, I'd say this one is missing a couple of important things. If I had to list them in order of relevance, I'd say that it is missing (a) a single card discussion section; (b) a section about how one should play the deck, what the deck is trying to accomplish, and how it tries to finish the game (e.g., a How to Play the Deck or a Strategy section); (c) why mono-B instead of any other color or color combination?; and (d) why Gisa? There might be other things but those are the items that came to my mind. I get that maybe you've just started writing this primer but moving forward, I believe it would be important to address these issues.

Now, let's talk about the exciting stuff, namely the decklist. The idea to use Ghoulcaller Gisa as a stax commander is an interesting one. It punishes spot removal and it takes advantage of creatures with a recursion ability to make even more creatures, which in turn can be used for stax pieces (e.g., Contamination, Smokestack) and hit face. I like the idea but why did you choose Gisa?

As a mono-B player, you'll need to be proactive about making it hard for your opponents to combo off because you don't have the luxury of running permission spells. The stax plan is very good here and I can see you are also playing a few disruption spells. A+ here. The only strange choice is Cabal Therapy. The sac ability might come handy at times but seems too situational. Duress is hands down a better choice, and I'd consider running Hymn to Tourach and Mind Twist as well. In the same vein, I'd even consider running Ill-Gotten Gains, too. It has great synergy with Waste Not and Leyline of the Void, and if you manage resolve it in the early game, it will set all your opponents back quite a lot (and it's also an additional yard recursion). It's a very versatile card that should be in every mono-B deck in my opinion.

On the stax package, I'd favor Infernal Darkness over Contamination hands down, or play both. Contamination shuts down your own coffers and it is more situational than Inf Darkness--that is, if you can cast darkness, you can keep it going for at least 2 turns, but if you can cast Contamination, you can only keep it going it you can also sac creatures. I understand the role of Tenacious Dead and Reassembling Skeleton but in my mind, I think you could remove both of them and if you really need an alternative, add something like Ophiomancer. Similar to Bitterblossom, Ophio doesn't require you to keep spending mana to create a creature.

One thing I feel you are missing is mana doublers. One advantage of playing a mono colored deck is that it makes it easier to run mana doublers, such as Extraplanar Lens, Bubbling Muck, and Crypt Ghast. If you go that route, you can get additional value with Candelabra of Tawnos (someone suggested before) and I'd also run Snow-Covered Swamps instead.

I have additional suggestions (e.g., Jet Medallion, Snuff Out, Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed, Innocent Blood) but I don't want to make this comment longer than it is. I have a competitive Erebos list (Erebos' Bargain) that might give you a few additional ideas on how to improve your own list. Feel free to check it. Anyway, good stuff you have here. Keep working on it and good luck on future games!

rdeller on Grinding Lilly

1 month ago

Saw the reddit thread, but since I don't actually have a reddit account I figured I'd comment here since Liliana is one of my favorite commanders. Cards you're not running that I'd highly recommend are Soldevi Adnate, Anvil of Bogardan, & Ill-Gotten Gains.

As for cuts I would try to pick on a strategy and streamline it. I'd start with lower impact cards like Sangromancer which does nothing but gain life which you don't really care about, or Liliana's Reaver which is overall pretty mediocre. You can either go the route of cutting the "goodstuff" cards like Phyrexian Obliterator or Sorin Markov, or you can cut down on either the discard, reanimation, or zombie themes. I personally play Liliana with a focus on the discard aspect, a secondary focus on Reanimation, & 0 focus on zombies.

Pheardemons on With the Night King's power, Death has no meaning

2 months ago

NensouHiebara Thanks for the comment!

And I actually did not know that this card existed. It is definitely a maybe. The deck already does a great job of getting stuff out of my graveyard, and I have other retrieval in the forms of Ill-Gotten Gains and Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed. However, redundancy is good in EDH. Thanks for the suggestion.

EternalBrewmaster on With the Night King's power, Death has no meaning

3 months ago

Yeah definitely. Yours is less combo-oriented than mine but still really brutal in the hand-disruption area. You should consider Sadistic Hypnotist, Ill-Gotten Gains, and Dark Deal.

illumfolly on Sorry, but they have to go, YES ALL OF THEM!

4 months ago

Suggestions:

Cyclonic Rift -- ??? Put this in.

Ill-Gotten Gains -- ayy lmao that's a fun one

Warped Devotion -- yis. put this in. yis.

Body Double -- ayyyyyy

Affenkralle on Queen Marchesa EDH - Game of Thrones

4 months ago

masterk2 Love your idea with the vow cards. I actually have some of them in my Kaalia deck which I don't really play. Spectral Searchlight looks like a tonne of fun for a more political plan. Why did you choose Ill-Gotten Gains though?

You are right, with this deck I want to be more on the aggro side.

Anyways, thank you so much for your help. Your tips will definitely help me improve this list. You are awesome :D

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