|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Iconic Masters (IMA)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2017 (C17)||Rare|
|Commander 2013 (C13)||Rare|
|Magic 2014 (M14)||Rare|
|2010 Core Set (M10)||Rare|
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Whenever you gain life, target opponent loses that much life.
Sanguine Bond Discussion
6 hours ago
This is a pretty neat deck so far. Some things to consider:
I'm not a big fan of Hero of Precinct One . You don't have many multicolored spells, so once you get an Athreos, you could take him out to add one of your commanders in.
- Have you considered the Sanguine Bond / Vizkopa Guildmage and Exquisite Blood infinite combo? It can win you the game on the spot and all cards are very powerful on their own. I see that Exquisite Blood is already in your maybeboard, but I strongly suggest you add it in.
I won't suggest anything else, as I sometimes feel that I'll kind of build the deck for you, and that just takes out the fun of the game for some people. If you want some more in-depth suggestions, feel free to ask.
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1 day ago
I crafted a Chainer deck roughly 2 years ago with intent to continue improving it. It's now my pet deck and the one I pamper most.
Your build seems to be missing some components that would make the deck much more wonderful (though it's plenty wonderful already - I love the Platinum Angel inclusion!). I would suggest effects like Sanguine Bond or Defiant Bloodlord if you plan to keep Exquisite Blood in the mainboard. Also, one of the best pieces a Chainer deck can have (even if budget is an issue, this card is roughly only $60 in judge promo form so there's little excuse if you can manage that!) is Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed . This will allow recursion of all your tutors, X-costing sorceries, enchantments, pretty much everything that isn't an artifact (and then, you still have Noxious Gearhulk to recur as well!). I HIGHLY suggest it.
As for me, I have a request: look at my build Threnody for the Victims of Dementia, and let me know where i am lacking as well as what inspires you. I love to help aspiring Chainer players and since you're featured right now I figure this is where I'll shine for you... and others, perhaps. :D
5 days ago
Alright, this is going to be a doozy.
First off, you have multiple ways of playing Varina. From what I've experienced playtesting her (your deck specifically), she seems really good as a draw engine/fill the graveyard with stuff. But your deck doesn't seem geared towards this specific ability. I would recommend a few cards that encourage more synergy with Varina's ability. The madness cards you use currently are great examples of what I'm suggesting. Other such cards are Big Game Hunter and Archfiend of Ifnir .
I also find you're not running enough graveyard shenanigans. I'd consider cards like Dimir Doppelganger , Body Double , Lazav, the Multifarious , and Dralnu, Lich Lord as ways to further increase graveyard abuse (if you start casting more from the graveyard, River Kelpie is a possibility too).
You're playing a lot of cards that damage your opponents when a zombie dies, but very few sac outlets. It makes your deck rely a little on your opponents killing your zombies for you. In order to circumvent this, I would recommend playing "free" sac outlets such as Carrion Feeder , Voracious Null , Nantuko Husk , Viscera Seer and Grimgrin, Corpse-Born .
1 week ago
It’s been a while since I’ve done this so forgive me if I mess up the formatting or something.
The first (and probably most important) thing I’d recommend is more consistent card draw. Necropotence is good, although the triple black can sometimes be tough to get, but aside from that all you’ve got is Underworld Connections and a few Read the Bones -esque cards. Personally I prefer Phyrexian Arena over UC because it’s basically the same thing except you essentially have to pay 1 mana for UC, although it also gives you the option of timing. Up to you. Anyway, in my experience RtB type single use effects, while good, aren’t quite enough. Twilight Prophet is a strong one that fits perfectly; he’s actually a Vampire and his trigger would set off your Sanguine Bond / Exquisite Blood combo. I also run Greed as a great mana sink for any excess mana.
A pseudo-card draw type effect you might want is Herald's Horn . It is very good here; it makes vampires cheaper and it can get you more card draw; both good things.
I also would recommend you look into replacing Door of Destinies . Sure it can really do work in the right circumstance, but if you draw it late it does essentially nothing. Shared Animosity could be a good replacement.
I could go on and on about ideas for upgrades for your deck but personally I enjoy doing that myself, so I’ll stop here. This has been plenty long enough. I’ll leave a link to my deck so you can check it out if you’re interested; I took mine down a more aggro/token route rather than the SB/EB combo but still you may find something helpful there.
1 week ago
I use Crucible of Worlds in my Tasigur list because he can't return lands with his ability, so it's a nice residual effect to keep getting land drops. In conjunction with Exploration the card is bonkers, and Life from the Loam fulfills a very similar role. Some cards you named, as well as others commented below are simply known as "Goodstuff" for good reason. They're just really good value cards to utilize and my Taigur list I mentioned is primarily a Combo Control build with a Goodstuff subtheme because high value cards that help me play magic more readily and increase my deck's longevity work really well in my meta.
Some of these types of cards that I've seen mentioned here are only really expensive because they haven't seen reprints. An example of this is Exquisite Blood . This card has only been printed once and was, for a time, much cheaper than where it stands right now. Sanguine Bond combos with Exquisite Blood , yet it costs less than a dollar because it's a card that has been reprinted five times. Cards like Oracle of Mul Daya or Bloom Tender would not be $40 cards if they had been printed more than once, but because they've only been printed in one set, that's why they're still so high up there and slowly but surely going to keep rising. I think Gaddock Teeg is a great example of this trend. For a time, I believe I saw him going for $35-$40, but when I saw that he was reprinted in Ultimate Masters, his price dropped to right around $7. His Lorwyn print still averages at ~$25, but if you actually look at what they are going for, you're actually looking at buying that exact print for $10.
I'm not sure if this was the intended discussion, but just seeing the suggested cards this looked like the perfect place to share this topic. The economics of the secondary card market is really interesting stuff.
1 week ago
1 week ago
Some of these cuts below are for efficiency to reign in your cmc, others because there are better cards. Are you looking to make a lifegain-matters deck or a tokens/aristocrat deck? You have a ton of lifegain sources that situationally come into play.
Consider cutting some of the permanent-based sources of card draw for things like Night's Whisper or Sign in Blood . Harvester of Souls is great, especially with Teysa on the board, but it costs 6 mana and can potentially draw you into nothing. Or it may give underwhelming returns for the amount of mana you have to pay into it.
1 week ago
Thanks! Glad you like it.
I actually haven’t really considered soul sisters when making the deck as it doesn’t have much of a way to abuse lifegain. I mean I suppose Sanguine Bond could do the trick, but you’d also need a soul sister, and an infinite tokens or sac combo to abuse the etb trigger. That just seems like too many cards to be worth it to me, and I’ve never felt like I needed to gain life to stay in the game long enough to win.
As far as Aristocrats goes, you could build off of that with Ghave, but I don’t see it as going infinite. I mean benefiting from making sacrifices is essentially the core of the Aristocrats strategy, so in a sense Ghave already does that. As far as traditional Aristocrats, though, no I haven’t gone much into that route here although I’d love to see someone make a true Aristocrats deck with Ghave. It’s one of my favorite archetypes, so seeing Ghave at the helm of one would be sweet. My Aristocrats decks tend to lean more Mardu. Dang, did I say Aristocrats enough times? Aristocrats.
I could see Krav, the Unredeemed working in this deck. Draw as many cards as I have creatures to sacrifice and gain life and +1/+1 counters on top of that for only ? Sure! The only reason I hesitate is his casting cost. I’d like to be able to get a draw engine going for cheaper than 5 mana. He’s certainly worth testing, though.
Sanguine Bond occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.04%
W/B (Orzhov): 0.79%
W/U/B (Esper): 0.44%