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Phyrexian Altar Discussion
3 days ago
I feel like you could use any one of if not all of Doomed Traveler, Doomed Dissenter, Hunted Witness. Or you could also use Teysa, Orzhov Scion maybe even a Phyrexian Altar, it is a bit expensive though.
1 week ago
As a fellow jeleva player, i think what the deck wants is more access to haste. Urabrask is cool, but costly and doesn't normally come out before Jeleva. Dragon Tempest, Swiftfoot Boots, Hanweir Battlements, Flamekin Village, Break Through the Line, and Hall of the Bandit Lord are all great options that are cheap. You want to make sure you can curve into Jeleva perfectly. Get a ramp spell and a haste source immediately and suddenly you're in business.
another suggestion i might add is to consider ways to remove Jeleva yourself. I personally run five boardwipes to give me a better chance at clearing the board and giving me the opportunity to recast Jeleva for more value later on or next turn. also consider sacrifice outlets as a good, reliable way to get rid of Jeleva. High Market is great but consider Ashnod's Altar, Phyrexian Altar, and other sac outlets to consistently remove her.
Additionally, i'm not crazy about some of the creature you have in the deck. The more creatures there are, the better chance you have of whiffing on a Jeleva cast. I'd focus it down to a couple creatures that will help your deck excel. Galvanoth is great to cheat out your spells, but you could probably cut down on some creatures in exchange for more utility pieces for your deck. Swarm Intelligence is a powerhouse card that could easily replace a creature. Silent-Blade Oni is a great "Gotcha!" card that with let you sneak in to steal a card (since no one ever blocks Jeleva, and she naturally has flying.) Wildfire Eternal is an absolute must have for the deck. Being able to cheat out multiple spells in a turn between Jeleva and Wildfire Eternal is back-breaking for the opposition.
Finally, consider more ramp! There are a lot of great ramps spells to add. The Talismans, Fellwar Stone, and others will make the deck more consistent in making the deck function more quickly and getting Jeleva out on turn 2 or three is an awesome feeling.
These are all my opinions, but i hope they help. :)
1 week ago
I love the strategy of the deck. It's so far removed from what you would expect from a Ghave deck that it'll take most people by surprise.
I personally like the land matters strategy but I feel the black control fits the flavor and theme better. Honestly I think you can have a good balance of both. Once you've got Ob Nixilis, Unshackled out there, I think ETB effects can be your friend especially since you should be able to abuse them. The flicker strategy works really well, there, but I would also suggest Mikaeus, the Unhallowed. He would be good on two fronts. First he'd be great for using ETB effects multiple times, but he's also great recursion to keep Ob Nixilis in play. You just need Ghave to remove the counter and you can bring him back again. If you can manage it you could create an infinite recursion loop with him, Ghave, and Ashnod's Altar or Phyrexian Altar. Unfortunately this would be a 5 card combo since you'd need Mikaeus, Ghave, Ob Nixilis, an altar, AND Avatar of Growth or someone similar. I'm not sure if there is anyone else who forces a search like he does, though.
I think you could easily pull yourself into a win with just Pattern of Rebirth using Protean Hulk if you add in a recursion combo. By using Karmic Guide + Reveillark + Saffi Eriksdotter + a sac outlet, you can continuously bring back Hulk and search for any creature in your deck that you want. You could grab Ob Nixilis, Unshackled and Fertilid or better yet Avatar of Growth. As long as you have a free sac outlet, you can continuously bring back Avatar and trigger Ob Nixilis until you drain everyone. Not to mention that they're great single card recursion on their own except that Reveillark isn't able to bring Ob Nixilis back.
Even with utilizing lands and black control, I do think it's a missed opportunity not to utilize Ghave's abilities in some way. If you're using him just for his colors, than any Abzan commander would work. You mentioned on my deck that you wanted to adopt some combos here. Which ones did you have in mind? Adding in some combo pieces with Ashnod's Altar like Bloodspore Thrinax or Ivy Lane Denizen would allow you to use Skullclamp, Mentor of the Meek, or Fecundity to draw into your win cons. Combos like this could also bee good for Ob Nixilis as well. Infinite sacrifices means you'd have an infinite/infinite flying demon. I know that's not the focus of this deck, but it could be an alternate interaction.
Excellent idea! I look forward to seeing how this all comes together.
1 week ago
I love Utopia Mycon! It definitely works just fine when saprolings are all you're dealing with. It used to be in my fungus tribal version of the deck and was part of the first combos. But again like you said, Phyrexian Altar is just better.
Thanks! I appreciate your attention to the deck and your suggestions.
1 week ago
More enchantment removal would be good. I think Kithkin Spellduster has some potential. It would work well with a Phyrexian Altar combo because I could get infinite white mana that I can then dump into its ability. With Ashnod's Altar I could only use it for as much as I already have available. Its uses are a bit more limited, I think, than my other persist creatures, but it's something to consider. Reclamation Sage would be easier to abuse, and I've been considering adding that to the list for some time now. I just don't know where I would make the cut for it.
1 week ago
Fair enough. Only other card I'd bother to mention would be Utopia Mycon since you mentioned mana. It's kind of a strictly worse Phyrexian Altar, but I love the little guy anyways. One of my favorite cards to play turn 1 aside from Sol Ring Other than that, +1. Love what you're doing here with Ghave.
1 week ago
I have a few suggestions.
I think in general you could use some more token support. Since your deck is already $400 I'm not going to hold back on the expensive cards, but I think you should consider adding these.
- Dragonlair Spider you have 3 opponents generally so this card does tons of work, I'd definitely move it to the main board
- Grave Titan just a awesome creature
- Craterhoof Behemoth Awesome finisher in any board based deck
- Triumph of the Hordes another awesome finisher for creature based decks.
I also think that some of your cards aren't great or don't compliment your deck well:
- Runaway Steam-Kin in general I think you don't have enough red spells for this to help
- Mer-Ek Nightblade,Ob Nixilis, Unshackled,Pir, Imaginative Rascal,Corpsejack Menace,Forgotten Ancient. Your creatures that sac a creature to give themselves +1/+1 are fine, but I don't think there are enough of them to warrant all of this support.
- Banefire,Bonfire of the Damned,Flameblast Dragon. In edh you only need a few X spells and generally the ones that hit multiple opponents are far better. You would be better off with just Exsanguinate and Torment of Hailfire
And there are a few cards I'd advise running just because they are so good
- Eternal Witness
- Phyrexian Altar
- Kodama's Reach
- Sidisi, Undead Vizier
- Vampiric Tutor
- Phyrexian Arena
- Purphoros, God of the Forge
- Impact Tremors
- Goblin Bombardment
But other than that your deck is pretty good especially for your first EDH deck. I hope these suggestions help!
1 week ago
With the upcoming release of UMA dropping the price of Ancient Tomb, Cavern of Souls, and Phyrexian Altar, I am more comfortable adding them back into the deck. These 3 cuts in particular were hard, but at the time the prices were too high, and even though people have decks that are a lot more expensive than mine, going to FNM with a $1200 deck made me uncomfortable.
Also adding back the two cheapest fetches, Bloodstained Mire and Wooded Foothills. Not sure if I will ever get an Arid Mesa or Scalding Tarn ever again. The reason I am adding these back is that Experimental Frenzy is a very strong card, and any kind of shuffling effects make it better. Madblind Mountain helped a bit, but bringing back some fetches will help even more. Plus I really missed using Crucible of Worlds on them!