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|Commander 2013 (C13)||Common|
|Shards of Alara (ALA)||Common|
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Tap: Add (1) to your mana pool.
(1), Tap, Sacrifice Esper Panorama: Search your library for a basic Plains, Island, or Swamp card and put it into play tapped. Then shuffle your library.
|Want (6)||zk9790 , Prototype_Serbon , analthunder , Brent2410 , Pictomancer , PoppingHector|
Esper Panorama Discussion
1 week ago
For tapping/untapping, consider a Thassa's Ire , which, though it costs more mana to tap/untap than Freed from the Real , it doesn't attach to the creature, so isn't destroyed if Merieke is destroyed/bounced/exiled. You may also want (or maybe not) a Village Bell-Ringer if you want to surprise-flash-uptap to give Merieke (and your other tapped guys) the ability to re-tap and cause mayhem at instant speed.
What are you win conditions? You've got a very controlly build, but how are you going to reduce opponent's health to 0 if they are also playing control, like a Mill or lifegain build? Also, with Detection Tower being your only way through Hexproof/Shroud, you may need to consider more ways to allow Merieke through those barriers.
You may also need to deal with threats before they hit the battlefield--Mereike doesn't protect you against ETB effects, and some of those can be pretty bad--so getting yourself some cards that allow you to selectively remove bad threats from your opponents' hands might give you the edge. Plus, apart from Counterspell and Dissolve , how can you stop enchantments and artifacts with ETB effects from hitting the battlefield? Fortunately, Esper does this kind of control best. Maybe playtest with things like Tidehollow Sculler , Sin Collector , and/or Vizkopa Confessor (this last guy is really nice because Extort will help you get that life back while draining everyone's health--stupidly powerful in a 4-player game). There are other cards that do this too but I'm not remembering them--you have lots of options, especially in Dimir ( Thought Erasure comes to mind, and I thought there was a creature from Guilds of Ravnica that did the same thing but I can't find it atm).
3 weeks ago
I never understood why so many people build Karametra as an enchantress deck. Her strength is clearly Creatures and Landfall! So I'm glad you are running Courser of Kruphix , Lotus Cobra , Emeria Shepherd , Emeria Angel , Rampaging Baloths , Admonition Angel , Tireless Tracker , and Avenger of Zendikar .
But in a deck that takes so much advantage of landfall, why only 1 fetchland? If you added more fetchlands, and then Azusa, Lost but Seeking , Ramunap Excavator . . . suddenly your Lotus Cobra is getting you 6 mana per turn completely for free, Rampaging Baloths is dropping 6 beast tokens per turn completely for free. Plus the extras you'll get for playing creatures and triggering Karametra.
Obviously fetchlands plus Karametra/Creatures triggers will run you out of basics to fetch. But when that happens you should be so far ahead that you can find a wincon.
If you put in Quirion Ranger , Scryb Ranger , Jungle Basin , and Karoo , and you don't even need lands in your deck to keep getting the land drop triggers.
If you wanted even more land drops you could of course run Wayward Swordtooth , Oracle of Mul Daya , Llanowar Scout , Sakura-Tribe Scout , Walking Atlas , probably others I can't think of off the top of my head.
More ways to take advantage of so much landfall: Retreat to Kazandu , Grazing Gladehart , Oran-Rief Hydra , Retreat to Emeria , Stone-Seeder Hierophant (toss in a Wild Growth , Utopia Sprawl , or Overgrowth and watch what Stoneseeder can do in this deck!)
Fetchlands Available to G/W: Terramorphic Expanse Evolving Wilds Myriad Landscape Flooded Strand Bloodstained Mire Wooded Foothills Blighted Woodland Bant Panorama Esper Panorama Grixis Panorama Jund Panorama Naya Panorama Marsh Flats Verdant Catacombs Arid Mesa Misty Rainforest Terminal Moraine Thawing Glaciers
3 weeks ago
I'm putting together this commander deck. Dakkon Blackblade was my favorite legend when I first played MTG (too bad I gave away my old Legends-era collection that included him). Thanks for sharing it!
Major price changes:
Open the Armory is nearly $2 now -- excluded from deck
Esper Panorama is over $1 now -- excluded from deck
Curator's Ward is within budget
Mask of Avacyn is available on TCGPlayer for ~$0.5
Resolute Archangel is <$1 on TCGPlayer
Pull from Tomorrow is <$1 on TCGPlayer
3 weeks ago
2 months ago
Hi there, I'm from the advertise your commander thread.
I used to have a Nin, the Pain Artist deck based on stealing and copying your opponents stuff. I always liked to win using your opponents cards, so its nice to see a deck with a similar theme.
I think your current build has a lot of room for optimization as there are many cards that have strictly or subjectively better counterparts. These are some suggestions for cards I would replace and what with:
Other cards that fit the theme of the deck: Clone, Stunt Double, Phyrexian Metamorph, Clever Impersonator, Roil Elemental, Vesuvan Doppelganger, Cackling Counterpart & Rite of Replication (Non budget: Bribery & Gilded Drake)
I would probably drop the flicker subtheme you currently have because you dont run a lot of creatures and go down a few lands (37 should be fine) in favor of more draw (Rhystic Study & Mystic Remora are nice). Also, one of the good things about black is the access to tutors. By adding tutors you increase the consistency of your deck, as they effectively serve as an extra copy of all the other cards in your deck. Lim-Dul's Vault, Beseech the Queen and Dark Petition are some good relatively cheap ones. (If you want to invest a bit of money in it, Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor are great.)
I hope this helps and good luck with deckbuilding!
PS. Dont forget to comment on the previously posted deck in the 'advertise your commander deck' thread. ;)
3 months ago
That's a cool interaction, hadn't thought of that. I tend to stay away from lands like Vesuva that ETB tapped (unless their stand-alone ability is amazing), this one enters tapped, and requires an "enabler" land. In the scenario I have a Flagstones of Trokair it works great (but remember too that Flagstones of Trokair also puts the plains in tapped.). It's much less utility (especially T1-T4 when trying to win) than a Fetch land. Plus no tutors for land to pull the combo (like Expedition Map) even if I draw into 1 or 2 pieces of it. Crucible of Worlds + Vesuva + Flagstones of Trokair too much random drawing needed, and Vesuva isn't strong enough to stand on it's own.
Thespian's Stage enters untapped for colorless, so it's a bit better. Still has the same 3-card combo requirements, and it's CMC to pull the plains. Warped Landscape can do it for same price (but only 2 targets in my build), Terminal Moraine, Myriad Landscape, Esper Panorama, Etc. Only pull basic, which i don't have many because of Tainted Pact.
Too much uncertainty for me to test. if i had lots of basics could run the Panoramas that pull , , or .
3 months ago
I haven't done a lot of research on zombies, but I learned from my old token deck that it takes a lot of trial and error to get the balance between token producers, pump spells, and abusers.
I think you haven't taken as much advantage of the colors you have. Green has a lot of cards that syngerize with tokens and white has the best removal and board wipes
I haven't looked at prices with these suggestions. Also, you don't have to listen to me at all
Josu Vess, Lich Knight - With green to help you ramp, this deck has a better chance of kicking him than other zombie decks. Open the Graves - More Tokens. Underrealm Lich - Card draw is always good. Varina, Lich Queen - Card draw, more tokens, and some lifegain to help keep you healthy for those life costs. Kodama's Reach, Rampant Growth, etc - I always feel like land ramp is more reliable than artifact ramp, especially in green, but this is just preference. You do seem to be lacking a bunch of ramp to keep those activated abilities from slowing you down. Death Baron - Another lord, but gives deathtouch too Carrion Feeder - Free sac outlet, if you are looking for one.
Pontiff of Blight - If you have solid ramp, giving all your creatures extort can get really dumb. Graveborn Muse - Might kill, but you will draw your entire deck with the right board state. Risen Executioner - Another lord with recursion Corpse Harvester - Tutor a zombie and a land. Noxious Ghoul - Could be spicy 1 sided board wipe Phyrexian Crusader - Possible 1 shot, but only if you have the right amount of pump. Shepherd of Rot - Could kill everyone. Good way to get around pillow fort and fogs. Raving Dead - Fun spice. Balthor the Defiled - Pretty good recursion. Right now Archetype of Imagination is the only non black creature. Dralnu, Lich Lord - You don't have that many instants and sorceries, but what you do have is strong. I think it reduces Army of the Damned's Flashback. Boneknitter - Tribal protection. Anguished Unmaking, Swords to Plowshares, Counterspell etc - some single target removal is always useful, and you are in amazing colors for it. I have this problem with my dragon deck. Second Harvest, Parallel Evolution - One time token doublers Craterhoof Behemoth, Overrun, Triumph of the Hordes - Ends games. Bramble Sovereign - Not a zombie, but this can do WORK. City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Reflecting Pool - 4 colors needs as much color fixing as possible. Esper Panorama - OK fetchland Krosan Verge - Underestimated fetch imo Fecundity - Crazy card draw Austere Command Merciless Eviction Cleansing Nova - A few more wipes. But these let you interact with artifacts and enchantments that this deck does not seem to do well.
Stronghold Assassin - effects like Dictate of Erebos, Grave Pact, and even Attrition are just better. Archetype of Imagination - I appreciate that you are trying to deal with a weakness in the deck while giving your creatures evasion. But, aren't zombie's looking to die for LTB effects? It also costs a lot. Grave Betrayal - Costs a bit too much for me, but a strong effect. I'm up in the air about this. Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord - Might be rough to cast in 4 colors Conspiracy - I might be missing something, but almost all of your creatures are zombies already. Skullbriar, the Walking Grave - Just seems like a beat stick that is hard to pump up. Vulturous Zombie - easier to pump up, but still feels like just another beat stick.
3 months ago
For your lands, I would recommend you run 38. This number should be a mix of utility, mana fixing, and basics.
P.S. Hour of Devastation is not allowed in your deck.
Esper Panorama occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
W/U/B (Esper): 0.39%