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Converge — You draw X cards and you lose X life, where X is the number of colors of mana spent to cast Painful Truths.
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Painful Truths Discussion
6 days ago
Grim contest could be swapped for Mortify
maybe swap temple of the false god for Winding Canyons? This way you have another vedalken orrey on a land
Do you have problems getting your lands drops? Looks like you have 32 lands and couple high CMC cards. Might be worth cutting oathsworn giant or pontiff of blight for some lands?
Maybe cut cathar's shield as well? slagwurm armor seems better and i don't know how many of that effect you need
I really like the deck! Looks like a fun twist on the agro deck
1 week ago
Hey PJ! Happy to help!
Things I like:
Immediate +1 for the name haha!
Elspeth, Sun's Champion... I mean, obviously.
I like that Sylvan Caryatid I see in there.
Abzan Beastmaster. He's cool.
Suggestions to put in:
Belligerent Brontodon is kinda a copy of Doran, just for your guys. Beware his cmc though!
Treefolk Harbinger if you want to go more into the tribal aspect of Doran.
Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim with some mana open, she's a great way to respond to an enemy boardwipe and gain a ton of life.
Grim Contest is a great fight effect that will almost always favor you.
Some to take out:
You have a ton of boardwipes. Maybe that's okay meta wise but you could probably drop the less useful ones like Whirlwind.
Obelisk Spider doesn't really synergize with anything else in the deck.
Painful Truths can be replaced with better draw options.
Kambal, Consul of Allocation seems kind of weak. Maybe it's a meta call.
Hope some of this helps!
3 weeks ago
I like your list and I get the budget thing! But how do you refill your hand? Except for the Indulgent Tormentor you have no card draw... at all! And that is optional... 3 life in EDH is a laughably low price to keep you from drawing! Keeping things budget you don't need a Necropotence but black offers so much in draw! Phyrexian Arena seems a no-brainer and the Arena on a stick Bloodgift Demon would be a nice inclusion. Read the Bones, Night's Whisper and Painful Truths as well as Sign in Blood would all go a long way to keep your hand full of fatties to drop with our vengeful Lady :) Ob Nixilis Reignited is sweet utility too since he draws and nukes stuff and is relatively cheap money wise ;)
4 weeks ago
As your deck list is pretty big so I thought I would give you some ideas for cards to cut.
Akroma, Angel of Fury: good, but does not have a big enough effect for commander
Anger: you're only running 2 mountains
Duergar Hedge-Mage good card but again, you are only running 4 mountains and 6 plains
Fallen Angel: you don't really have a use for a sac engine.
Jayemdae Tome: Just not great
Wrecking Ball no need for land destruction and there is better creature removal
Ghostly Prison:fine cared but has no real reason to be in this deck
Vow of Duty: just run a removal spell
Earthquake, Evincar's Justice, Pyrohemia, Sulfurous Blast: The mardu colors are the king of board wipes, run something better. ie. Damnation, Toxic Deluge, Wrath of God, Chain Reaction, Phyrexian Rebirth, and Decree of Pain to name a few
Congregate: don't need the life gain. Unless of course you play lots of token decks
Liliana of the Dark Realms: you have 3 swamps
you have a good amount of good creature but because your commander relies on your hand here are some more card draw ideas:Ambition's Cost, Ancient Craving, Bloodgift Demon, Damnable Pact, Dragon Mage, Erebos, God of the Dead, Harvester of Souls, Necrologia, Night's Whisper, Ob Nixilis Reignited, Painful Truths, Sign in Blood, Skeletal Scrying, Underworld Connections, Wretched Confluence, and Read the Bones.
More additional combat phase spell would also greatly benefit you. World at War, Aurelia, the Warleader, Fury of the Horde, Hellkite Charger, Relentless Assault, Savage Beating, Scourge of the Throne, Seize the Day, Waves of Aggression
in case you haven't already you may want to check out https://edhrec.com/commanders/kaalia-of-the-vast for more card ideas.
Looks like a great start, hope my comments were helpful
4 weeks ago
And before sleep: I could see Exsanguinate and Faithless Looting all getting cut pretty easily for more speed or power cards. Maybe Vampiric Fury too, but that's not hard for this deck have a big Vamp board. Exsanguinate can be totally useless unless it's late game, and Looting is potentially too much discard. Night's Whisper / Painful Truths / Read the Bones are the best Draw options, otherwise you could slip in 1 or 2 more Vamps, Planeswalkers, or 5-6CMC boss cards.
1 month ago
I think you could cut glacial chasm and ice floe
cut distress, single card discard in commander is hard to use effectivly. If you want this type of effect add Sadistic Hypnotist.
Cut Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet for being to expensive and not inpacting the board fast enough.
Well that's a lot of suggestions, if you'd like to debate any of them I'd be more than happy to!
Good luck spreading vampirism!
1 month ago
1 month ago
Unicornsareevil I think lightning bolts are pretty good and probably worth it over something. Maybe the bushwhackers or maybe Honored Crop-Captain or Glory-Bound Initiate. It gives you early game removal and another route for finishing off your opponent. The only reason I don't run them (or other removal) is its hard to make the mana work. I only run 5 red sources when it comes to casting non-creature spells. It looks like you run 7, which isn't quite as bad but its still pretty low. The Ancient Ziggurats really make non-creature spells tricky for me so I try to only run them in white where I have 10 sources. Unfortunately I had to pass on Path to Exile to keep the deck budget.
I think whether the bushwhackers are worth it or not over something like Goblin Wardriver, Painful Truths, or Alesha, Who Smiles at Death depends on how fast you want the deck to play. The bushwhackers make the deck faster giving the deck higher burst potential where as wardriver is more sustained damage. Painful truths and Alesha are both nice card advantage, but they slow down the aggro plan. In general those choices push your version to be slower but have a slightly better mid-game plan.