Painful Truths

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Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Limited Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Highlander Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Custom Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Frontier Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Commander 2017 (C17) Rare
Battle for Zendikar (BFZ) Rare

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Painful Truths

Sorcery

Converge — You draw X cards and you lose X life, where X is the number of colors of mana spent to cast Painful Truths.

Painful Truths Discussion

Snake on Into The Lungs Of Hell

1 day ago

JKRice and the Mortify ?..in my meta existe a bunch of annoying enchantments so..i really need this. One of the problemas was the card draw too..so i put Painful Truths ..its works very good.

-Fulcrum on Ghave that Bitch a Combo

3 weeks ago

enpc Thanks for the suggestions. I think you're right on the removal, and I'll probably make the cuts you suggested, a few of them anyway. And yeah, I'm operating under an infinite budget even if it will take approximately infinite years to acquire some of the cards I'm adding. I suppose I should add Imperial Seal in addition to your Gaea's Cradle recommendation.

I really like the Force of Vigor , Necromancy , and Summoner's Pact recommendations and will test them out. Silence and Veil of Summer (which I suspect is an upgrade over Autumn's Veil ) also seem good. Painful Truths also seems good, will definitely make that switch.

I'm not sold on Mentor of the Meek . It was fairly poor in the early days of this deck when I was doing token combos with Juniper Order Ranger . But that was such a long time ago and honestly a much different deck that I'm willing to give it another shot.

I think, just from kinda goldfishing, that I like the Lesser Masticore combo a lot more than the Geralf's Messenger combo and was thinking of cutting that and Ashnod's Altar entirely. Which has the side effect of making Ghave even less relevant to the shell than he already is. But I like that I can assemble the entire Lesser Masticore combo off of just 1 Protean Hulk trigger. The fact they're dead cards outside the combo is concerning though so I'll keep it in mind.

Honestly, I think I'm going to cut Reliquary Tower and Strip Mine entirely instead of replacing them with fixing. Testing, I really seem to flood a lot.

If you have any Entomb like effects to suggest, I'm all ears. I've only found Entomb , Buried Alive , and Survival of the Fittest so far but they're extremely powerful from my testing. Survival of the Fittest in particular almost wins the game on its own.

Another card I've found underwhelming recently is Green Sun's Zenith . It's just so expensive to do anything worthwhile and with the suggestion to cut Dryad Arbor , I'm even more keen to cut it. For the same reason, I'm not entirely sold on Finale of Devastation , but I wanna test it more. I like that it can grab any creature and also stuff from my graveyard, like maybe a Viscera Seer if necessary.

Thanks again for helping me out here. I'm about to pass out typing, but I'll make some changes when I wake up.

enpc on Ghave that Bitch a Combo

3 weeks ago

Alrighty, so I had a look at the list a here are a few things I picked up (also, I'm working under the assumption of infinite budget for now):

You're running very heavy on removal, probably more than you need to be. I would personally lose Vindicate , Beast Within and Anguished Unmaking . On the flipside, the new Force of Vigor looks really good and can help get rid of Rest in Peace effects. UYou also have cards like Silence , Orim's Chant , Veil of Summer and Imp's Mischief which can be used to protect your combo. There's also Grand Abolisher , however I like Silence a bit better.

I would swap Dance of the Dead out with Necromancy as you can use it to both cheat in but then also sacrifice Protean Hulk (especially when in combo with Entomb ).

As for card advantage, some cards you could consider are: Mentor of the Meek to trigger on your dorks/saprolings, Summoner's Pact which can get Hulk/Saffi, Runic Armasaur which is meta dependent but can be very good, Tymna the Weaver who again is meta dependent but can turn your dorks/saprolings into cards and Painful Truths which is better than Phyrexian Arena since it gives you the cards immediately.

I'm not sure I like the Lesser Masticore combo. I feel like it's a very specific line that doesn't do much outside of it. and outside of combo, Disciple of the Vault and Melira, Sylvok Outcast are effectively dead cards.

I would also consider dropping Dryad Arbor for Gaea's Cradle (yes, these work well together) since cradle works well with Ghave. I would also ditch Reliquary Tower and Strip Mine for better fixing.

Those would be my thoughts for now at least. I hope this gives you a few ideas.

SakuraStorm on Kaalia's Demon Pals

3 weeks ago

Looks fun, but it seems you're lacking carddraw.

To make sure you don't run out of gas, i'd recommend running:

Ambition's Cost and Ancient Craving

and imo the best carddraw spell in mardu Painful Truths .

Few suggestions to take out:

Phyrexian Arena is very veeeeeery slow.

Bloodgift Demon is Arena on a stick.

Abyssal Persecutor is underwhelming, has a drawback and does'nt scale to well powerwise in EDH.

Noogin on Sultai Midrange

4 weeks ago

I would suggest replacing Painful Truths with either Mishra's Bauble or Nihil Spellbomb to give you another card type to help trigger delirium. Additionally, I am not sure how you are going to be able to cast Teferi, Time Raveler .

Optimator on Nikki Borgees

4 weeks ago

"One-card wincons" to consider: Insurrection , Expropriate , Painful Quandary , Rise of the Dark Realms , Revel in Riches , Cut / Ribbons . Perhaps Clone Legion , Rite of Replication , Mogis, God of Slaughter , Hour of Promise , Blatant Thievery , Grave Betrayal , or Mind's Dilation .

The Chain Veil , Inexorable Tide , Contagion Clasp , and Contagion Engine maybe?

One thing to think about is getting Nicol Bolas flipped and maybe joined by the other planeswalkers and casting Obliterate , Jokulhaups , Devastation , or Decree of Annihilation . Almost guaranteed ultimates. Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God would be the best--proxy for now and include in first build?

Possible upgrades:

Boardwipes: Toxic Deluge , Black Sun's Zenith , Hour of Devastation , Decree of Pain , Curse of the Swine , In Garruk's Wake , Deadly Tempest , Evacuation , Nevinyrral's Disk , Last One Standing , Perilous Vault , Oblivion Stone , Kindred Dominance , Necromantic Selection , Subterranean Tremors

Removal: Capsize , Bedevil , Hero's Downfall , Chaos Warp , Kolaghan's Command , Reality Shift , Pongify , Rapid Hybridization , Vraska's Contempt , Rakdos Charm , Price of Fame , In Bolas's Clutches , Plaguecrafter , Merciless Executioner , Fleshbag Marauder , Unstable Obelisk , Vandalblast , By Force , Shatterstorm , Hostage Taker , Yawgmoth's Vile Offering , Settle the Score , Dark Impostor , Hour of Glory , Sever the Bloodline , Silence the Believers , Spread the Sickness , Slave of Bolas , Electrodominance

Draw: (I would add Erebos once you're home) Patient Rebuilding , Phyrexian Arena , Greed , Arguel's Blood Fast  Flip, Notion Thief , Windfall , Mystical Tutor , Blue Sun's Zenith , Pull from Tomorrow , Stroke of Genius , Braingeyser , Mind Spring , Expansion / Explosion , Invoke the Firemind , Deliver Unto Evil , Augur of Bolas , Painful Truths , Fevered Visions , Search for Azcanta  Flip, Fact or Fiction , Dig Through Time , Treasure Cruise , Tidings , Thassa, God of the Sea , Day's Undoing , Reforge the Soul , Standstill , Deep Analysis , Necrologia , Steady Progress , Tezzeret's Gambit , Oath of Jace

Random utility: Ophiomancer , Metallurgic Summonings , As Fortold, Pendrell Mists , No Mercy , Stranglehold , Fated Return , Dark Intimations , Spellseeker , Sire Of Insanity , Thief of Sanity , Spark Double , Primal Amulet  Flip, Dragon's Hoard , Mystic Retrieval , Shreds of Sanity , Spelltwine , Ashiok, Dream Render , Torpor Orb , Baleful Strix , Darksteel Myr , Solemn Simulacrum , Wayfarer's Bauble , Vedalken Orrery , Saheeli, Sublime Artificer , Will Kenrith , Mana Geyser , Gem of Becoming , Thran Dynamo , Narset, Parter of Veils , Keranos, God of Storms , Thrilling Encore , Star Compass , Coldsteel Heart , Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs , Ensnaring Bridge , Crawlspace , Expedition Map , Burnished Hart , Torment of Scarabs , Cruel Reality , Mnemonic Betrayal , Yawgmoth's Will , Bloodchief Ascension , Nightscape Familiar , Gonti, Lord of Luxury , Thaumatic Compass  Flip, Dreadhorde Invasion , Fraying Omnipotence , Thrummingbird , Viral Drake , Past in Flames , Mizzix's Mastery , Omniscience , Tainted AEther , Aid the Fallen , Deepglow Skate , Flux Channeler , Rings of Brighthearth , Silent Arbiter , Meekstone , Mudslide , Astral Cornucopia , Everflowing Chalice , Lethal Vapors , Sunbird's Invocation , Stolen Strategy , Maze of Ith , Spreading Plague , Merchant Scroll , Polluted Bonds , Black Market , Grave Upheaval , Memory Plunder , Pain Magnification

Beaters: Dragonlord Silumgar , The Scorpion God , The Locust God , The Scarab God , God-Eternal Kefnet , God-Eternal Bontu , Darksteel Colossus , Colossus of Akros , Visara the Dreadful , Tsabo Tavoc , Avatar of Woe , Balefire Dragon , Nicol Bolas , Hellkite Tyrant , Bladewing the Risen , Grave Titan , Inferno Titan , Steel Hellkite , Vampire Nighthawk , Torrential Gearhulk , Noxious Gearhulk , Combustible Gearhulk , Dominus of Fealty , Roil Elemental , Tidespout Tyrant , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Keiga, the Tide Star , Ryusei, the Falling Star , Wrexial, the Risen Deep , Etali, Primal Storm , Nezahal, Primal Tide , Tetzimoc, Primal Death , Dread , The Haunt of Hightower , Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , Enigma Drake , Crackling Drake , Archfiend of Depravity , Sheoldred, Whispering One , Thing in the Ice  Flip, Niv-Mizzet, Parun , Sepulchral Primordial , Molten Primordial , Diluvian Primordial , Ob Nixilis, Unshackled , Sire of Stagnation , Utvara Hellkite

Vlasiax on Who let the Vamps out? (Edgar-Commander)

1 month ago

What do you think about Vindictive Vampire and Zulaport Cutthroat ? Maybe more draining is a good thing to focus on?

For another budget draw I though about Sign in Blood and Painful Truths . I personally run these instead of Dark Confidant and Wheel of Fortune .

As for removal I consider Wear - it might be viewed as 3CMC but it's flexibility and ability to be 3 CMC 2-for-1 redeem it for me. Might work instead of Path to Exile or Harsh Mercy since you have enough creature removal. The latter might also work really bad in more tribal oriented metas or because of the fact that so many good creatures are Elves of Humans.

multimedia on Vampire Aristocrats

1 month ago

Hey, nice midrange version, but consider some more one/two drop Vamps who can fit in with a midrange strategy? Two of them are in the maybeboard.

Cards to consider cutting for these:

  • Voldaren Pariah
  • Deathbringer Liege
  • Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
  • Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet
  • Tithe Drinker

Midrange benefits from a good three drop consider more three drops? Drana, Liberator of Malakir is a good three drop Vamp, flying and pumps your attacking team of Vamps. Forerunner of the Legion is a three drop Vamp tutor and it's other ability is also good with eminence. Shared Animosity has a powerful repeatable effect for attacking Vamps. Painful Truths is a draw spell upgrade. Read the Bones is another draw spell upgrade.

Cards to consider cutting for these:

  • Damnable Pact
  • Ambition's Cost
  • Teysa Karlov
  • Elenda, the Dusk Rose
  • Requiem Angel

Swords to Plowshares is handy efficient exile creature removal, a staple card of Commander. Boros Charm can at instant speed save your Vamp army from most board wipes and it's other modes are also relevant. The Talismans: Talisman of Conviction , Talisman of Hierarchy and Talisman of Indulgence are upgrades for the Signets because Talismans can be used the turn you play them to make mana (colorless or colored) without needing another mana source.

Cards to consider cutting for these:

  • Sangromancer
  • Kheru Bloodsucker
  • Rakdos Signet
  • Boros Signet
  • Orzhov Signet

Lands to consider adding:

Lands to cut for these:

  • Stone Quarry
  • Evolving Wilds
  • Terramorphic Expanse
  • 3x Plains
  • 1x Mountain
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Painful Truths occurrence in decks from the last year

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