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Search your library and graveyard for five cards and remove the rest from the game. Put the chosen cards on top of your library in any order. You lose half your life, rounded up.
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1 week ago
The main problem is trying empty yourself out and also having a card draw in hand when you go for the lab man win. I would also recommend lowering the curve for your exile stuff. Here might be some cards to help you win faster or be more consistent.
- Demonic Consultation
- Surgical Extraction
- Gitaxian Probe
- Thought Scour
- Frantic Search
- Windfall/Dark Deal
As for what Doombeard1984 said, tutors are your best ways in Dimir colors to access your win-cons. You can also use a self-mill type theme or Doomsday if you want but that goes away from the theme you are creating. You can use tutors like Entomb to put labman in grave than Unearth or Reanimate him than casting Demonic Consultation and calling a card not in your deck exile your whole library before using a card draw spell to win. This combo only takes 4 mana.
Hope that helps!
1 week ago
I was just looking through the display case cards at my local game shop, and just saw Doomsday. It costs 3 black, so would be a little of a stretch here but if it resolves it would guarantee at least a turn 4 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. Plus, with this you can't really get milled out unless they have a Surgical Extraction for your Emrakul
2 weeks ago
DangoDaikazoku after looking at j_spencer93, I doubt they understand cEDH, and after looking at all of the Aminatou lists online, Tier 3 seems about right, all are trying some difficult combo, where I think that Tier 2 is possible.
The reason is that I feel it can make a reasonably good replacement for Zur. Sure, it can't fetch Necropotence, but that is a backup plan anyway, unless you want to play Tainted Shimmer Zur instead of Doomsday Zur. As is, with a fetchland manabase, enough shuffle effects in tutors, you can abuse Aminatou as a way to turn all of your Enlightened Tutor, Mystical Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal, and Personal Tutors into real tutors-to-hand in effect.
2 weeks ago
Arcan1s_666, that's a very good question. I'm honestly not sure - I have something of a mental loop where I try to think about what to replace, and then I just go back to "But the Invocation Doomsday looks so pretty and flavorful!"
But honestly it would likely be more interaction first and foremost. Maybe more draw that doesn't rely on discard.
The full Doomsday package is: Doomsday, Laboratory Maniac, Lion's Eye Diamond, Gitaxian Probe, Gush, Deep Analysis and Yawgmoth's Will. Yawgwin is too good to remove on its own, so that stays regardless (even though the foil is going to cost me...). Gush is also pretty great. So is Deep Analysis. So we really only have ~4 cards to play with.
My Maybeboard is pretty filled with ideas. The biggest weakness of the deck right now is lack of creature defenses. I have some, but not a lot. Evacuation would be a great include - I would get to re-cast Bolas, and most of my opponents get hosed worse just because I'm so creature-light. And it's instant speed, which is always a bonus. Warped Devotion and Words of Wind would be interesting. Devotion hits me too, though, so it's still iffy. I keep wanting to run it (I already own a couple foils, it's cheap), but I need to have a good density of bounce and some way to make sure I'm not suffering worse. I suppose I'm not running a ton of permanents and that might be helpful. Archfiend of Depravity might be nice too, to help keep the enemy creature count low.
Of course, a different combo would also be possible. Worldgorger Dragon, likely with Flash as an enabler, works with Animate Dead and ETB-untapped lands to generate infinite mana. As long as you can stop the loop (usually by reanimating something else), you can make infinite mana for a Torment of Hailfire win. It's compact, uses mostly cards that are not dead outside of the combo, but it's also pretty risky and vulnerable to interaction - it generates mana for opponents too if they have ETB-untapped lands.
Lastly, I could just add a few more tutors. Getting Geth's Grimoire or Waste Not on the field is pretty important to the rest of the deck. Tutors help with that, and with finding the win condition when it's time.
Those are my current thoughts, anyway.
2 weeks ago
this is an interesting deck...
A few things you could change up could be to go into a more storm-y or Doomsday sort of deck.
Some reasonable lands that I think you'd benefit form under this style of deck would be Lake of the Dead, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale to slow down the opponent being an aggressive creature-based deck, and even one or two Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoths.
You should probably run some alternate removal, because legacy is a format filled with stuff like Arcbound Ravager, Lodestone Golem. What you'd be better off running would be stuff more along the lines of Dismember, Slaughter Pact and/or Hero's Downfall (which also removes those pesky planeswalkers). Even some Damnations, Massacres or Toxic Deluge. These sweepers will hit most things, and probably won't be cast before you get any real threats out.
With the rest of the deck, it's pretty cool, but Cruel Tutor is so shady, being a 3-mana Imperial Seal. You're much better off running 3 copies of Dank Petition over it. Additionally, you might find it useful to run Ula, the new or old, as the opponent could play something like Bridge which would almost definitely stop you from bashing your opponent. Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre destroys any permanent ON CAST, so it can get rid of that super annoying Liliana, or Bridge, maybe if they have a Thalia out. Ulamog also has Annihilator 4, which additionally removes permanents from play.
I would also suggest thinking about adding another colour, Red or Blue. Red offers cards such as Sneak Attack, giving you quick Emerias, while blue offers additional things to ramp into, namely Omniscience, letting you cast your big things for free if you want to.
2 weeks ago
Oh man your friend is one lucky S.O.B., only one friend of mine pulled an Invention Sol Ring, my other ones pulled the mana crypt and a couple others.
3 weeks ago
After playtesting Zur with different builds (refer to my comment from a few months ago), I've found the Tainted Pact / Demonic Consultation version with instant shimmer win to be the most superior version. Tainted pact/Demonic consultation can get us Isochron/Reversal/Reservoir during our necro endstep. I added in more instant speed draw (and recovery), which is really pulling its weight, especially since I've had situations before where I have topdeck tutors and mana at the endstep, but no instant speed card draw. Overall the build I ended up with - http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tainted-shimmer-storm/
has the lowest CMC of all my decks - 1.69, and makes the endstep necroing much more reliable and almost sure to win. Let me know what you think and why would you consider a High Tide Doomsday build to be superior to Tainted Pact & Demonic Consultation (which you can play during endstep).
3 weeks ago
Sorry I seem to have not replied in a timely manner to your questions. My mistake.
Mission Briefing will work in Doomsday piles. However since you have to cast it for , it's not solving anything in particular that DD has trouble with. But you can do some cute lines with it. Admittedly I never really explored it much but I give that more to adding total CMC to a pile over the surveil. It could be quite nifty with Gush, like you said.
You can play without Lion's Eye Diamond. Predict + Unearth piles are the go-to for that kind of stuff. Alternatively, Mission Briefing can also help you there but it's not drawing any cards so you need to pile with it after you draw 2 (like Yawgmoth's Will), or just have it in hand.
Another solution is proxy up Lion's Eye Diamond. Sadly cEDH is approaching Vintage levels of being prohibitively expensive to play, and I think to play the deck you want it's really reasonable to proxy up the card.