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Forsake the Worldly
Exile target artifact or enchantment
Cycling 2 (2, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
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Forsake the Worldly Discussion
14 hours ago
Cyclonic Rift - I'm trying to find a spot for it. Forsake the Worldly and Return to Dust are not too much of an impact to this deck I think...but still I think the second one is tempting to put it in.
The biggest problem that I have, and which is holding me from ordering the stuff from MCM is as I said before - struggle to take anything out of this build to make some room for maybeboard cards as well as battle in my mind to which direction I want to go with this deck. Jeez...it's confusing me more and more tbh -_-
I really want to make it "all phyrexia" but don't want to put random cards from this block only for the sake of flavor - but still - I've added Preators for example only to hardcast them with Defense of the Heart and the flavor aspect. Superfriends build is not my goal - I've done this in my slivers deck couple of years ago. Stax is imho difficult to pair with infect because it's slowing you down too much. I would like this deck to be some kind of toolbox because I will be playing with new and much larger playgroup soon.
15 hours ago
TheErebos No worries I just actually finished playing at my LGS for commander night haha! And I totally understand Daretti combo, my friend actually used to play that for awhile before he retired that deck.
Hmmm, is there a reason why you aren't running Cyclonic Rift?
1 day ago
Here are some cards that might help you out, they are less than $10 in price range and would benefit you greatly. A friend of mines play a competitive Teysa deck so here are some cards he uses:
Plaguecrafter: A better Merciless Executioner and Fleshabag Marauder.
Bloodghast: ...Well this used to be under $10 but very worth to try and obtain.
Grand Abolisher: Prevents people from actually stopping you on combo turns.
Ophiomancer: Provides tokens on each upkeep, strong card to run.
Leonin Relic-Warder: Combined with Animate Dead or Dance of the Dead to produce infinite death triggers before you can finish with Bitter Ordeal.
Sidisi, Undead Vizier: Good creature tutor that has additional value.
Animate Dead: Can be used in conjuntion with LRW or just a cheap way to reanimate your creatures.
Dance of the Dead: Same reasoning as above.
Phyrexian Arena: Card draw engine that should be a staple.
Necropotence: Hand refill.
Swords to Plowshares: One cmc removal and it's cheap to get.
Path to Exile: A more pricier StP but worth if you need the removal.
Mortify: Another cheap removal.
Beseech the Queen: Another cheap tutor, the revealing of the card is sometimes bad, but if your playgroup already knows what your going for it doesn't mater.
Disenchant: If you feel like you really need to deal with more removal.
Diabolic Intent: Recent reprint in Battlebond, so it's cheap to pick up.
Dread Return: A good reanimate effect with a acceptable flash back cost.
Forsake the Worldly: Instant speed removal that can be cycled if you don't need it.
Living Death: You said you play in big groups, this should get you more value than them since you are playing with your graveyard.
Oblation: Can also target your own spirits or draw or removing a permanent in a tight spot.
Unburial Rites: A slight worse version of Dread Return.
Wrath of God: Classic board wipe.
Blasting Station: Highly recommend for you to run, an outlet that can win.
Smokestack: Combined with creatures coming back every turn or sacrificing a spirit, you can lock down your opponents.
Hope that these cards help!
4 days ago
Aaerys No problem!
Yes definitely keep the artifact synergy, honestly if you don't like the combo approach and want to go for the more interaction routes with fun things to play (like playing with other people's deck ;3) than I would suggest more protection, counterspells, artifact synergy, card draw, as well as interaction.
Here is a list of some additional cards that I found useful and within the $20 or less range.
These cards will make opponents less likely to hit you, or will at least slow them down enough for you to interact with them.
A couple more useful counters, best one I like to use for Sen Triplets is cards like Remand, Muddle (because the 2 cmc transmute comes in clutch), and Arcane Denial as it gives more options to choose from their hand.
Shimmer Myr and Raff Capashen are honestly auto include in my opinion, giving the ability to flash in your commander and not waiting to wait one whole turn before her upkeep effect is amazing, it also allows us to hold up mana to interact with other players before deciding what we can do. The curve is also great since Shimmer Myr is 3 cmc and Raff is 4 cmc, we can hold mana for our counterspells and interactions and if the coast is clear flash in Sen. Trophy Mage is for the redundancy that you have more than a likely chance of tutoring your Shimmer Myr or Crystal Shard (Shard always makes sure that your opponent will be reluctant to tap out and thus preventing them to cast more creature spells). Voltaic Key is there just for more fun shenanigans, I always like having them in these type of artifact decks. Academy Ruins is a card I would highly recommend investing into, it saves your artifacts, it allows recursion, and if the case where Sen dies, you won't have to consistently pay the tax for it with this card on the field.
On another note Paradox Engine is a powerful card, it allows you to gain extreme amount of value, hence the reason you would want to include more mana rocks into the deck. I added Aetherflux into list in the case you want to close out a game, since you are running Isochron Scepter already, adding in Dramatic Reversal will be your win con and also allows you to net infinite mana and play your opponents hand if you so would choose. The playstyle is all there for you to choose ;3
Some choice cards I like to use, Notion Thief is there for them really sneaky plays when there is a mass Windfall or if someone taps out for a burst draw. Sphinx is a high power card engine. The time warp is there for just pure value.
Some notable cards are like Snap, which untaps your land and bounces the creature back to their hand, pure value if its your turn next as now you will be able to cast that creature as well! Capsize is also a deadly card, as you can bounce their land and then play the land you bounced on your turn with Sen on the field, buyback is also killer (I have people scooped many times when I used this trick 1v1). Tower of Magistrate is really interesting against other people playing with artifacts (This auto de-quips voltron commanders!). A lot of these spells can also be copied on to Isochron Scepter making them extremely useful for you to control your opponent and allowing them what spells they can play, bouncing the spells you want to play from their deck, and removing the cards you don't like.
One more card which is a great mana rock.
Hopefully this gives you a better idea of a Control Sen Triplets shell, I think you can tell that this was one of my favorite decks before I retired her ;P
4 days ago
Yes, there was a chance and I grabbed it! Even without LED it adds to DD piles it's insane :)
So speaking of cEDHlike build - no, it's not by design it's just using optimal cards for my plans. Through testing and playing my Kess, Dissident Mage deck it showed itself being very fast, but it lacked redundancy even with additions to usual Kess builds; that being said I decided to take a deck with more control elements and protection for the cost of being somewhat slower. This is, let's say a prototype that is using cards which shouldn't even be here because of me lacking better cards, which I will mention later.
Pact of Negation - a great card which can't get my hands on and I would definitely give it a shot for some more pile variances. On the other hand, I'm not a huge fan of Foil, I know it's being a somewhat a budget supstitute for Force of Will, but I find it to conditional for it's effect so I'll rather play PoN when I get it.
Anguished Unmaking - I'm also concidering cards like this one. I'd rather like to deal with all kinds of pernaments than just specific ones such as artifacts, enchantments etc. Vindicate is also great, but which to include is a question for now because I don't know how relevant that life loss is for that instant speed (I'll most likely run AU in place of Forsake the Worldly.) And speaking of mass removal spells, I'm a huge fan of wraths such as Wrath of God/Damnation where it's straight forward and since Damnation is pricey and WoG does practitly the same in other colors. I think I would run WoG or even Supreme Verdict since I'm already in white and it would be a shame not to get use of it, but I still agree that Toxic Deluge is a huge deal and it's going in this slot as soon as I get it (going in slot of Day of Judgment). Zur is here when I want to play a slower game and sometimes really irelevant, depending on the pod and my opener.
Solitary Confinement is my personal card of choice when it comes to protection from all those creatures; once Necropotence comes in, those lines of text where I skip my draw step or discard a card become quite irelevant.
Speaking of cards that might get replaced, it's all just a matter of time and money untill I get those. Besides already mentioned ones earlier, cards that might get replaced are Imprisoned in the Moon with Grasp of Fate which is more efficient removal, colorless mana artifacts for fast mana rocks, better counterspells and general land changes for better fixing. Rest of the cards might flex for some others in their slots depending on my meta changes.
1 month ago
Nice budget deck. I heartily agree with your upgrade list. You may consider Revoke Existence to replace Forsake the Worldly since it's a little easier to cast, but without cycling it would be a dead draw if you have no use for it. Depends on how much you expect to need the removal.
I'm working on a similar deck, Ephara's Bureaucrats. I'm taking mine in a bit of a different direction (see enchantments), but I got the idea to use Shrieking Drake from looking at yours so maybe you'll get some ideas of your own looking at mine.
1 month ago
This comment will be highlighting areas in the remaining non-land categories that may be better suited with upgrades.
Awakening works for ALL players BTW!!
1 month ago
I am said friend that requested that this be posted. So my personal commentary for this deck:
1) Remove Revitalize - At one point I was also quite fond of cards that gain life, but they don't really help you win so much as they help you not lose. Even if this one draws a card too, it also is a card you need to spend so all it does is replace itself.
2) Remove Oakenform, Knight's Pledge - I tend to avoid Auras that buff creatures quite a lot unless there's certain circumstances. It's entirely too easy for your creature to die and for you to lose an extra card this way. The buff is tempting but it's too big of a draw back in my eyes. Squire's Devotion is a special case since it comes in with an extra creature.
4) Move Plummet to your Sideboard - You already have a not insignificant amount of anti-air options. If the deck is strictly flying creatures, that's when you move in Plummet. From your maybeboard, Naturalize or a different version Forsake the Worldly should also be sideboard material.
5) Inspired Charge - I'm not particularly fond of this card; you seem more interested in going tall than wide in this deck. But try it for now and see how well it works. It makes sense with your Mammoth, so I wouldn't outright cut it yet.
7) Rabid Bite, Take Vengeance, Gideon's Reproach, Divine Verdict - these cards are going to be your removal suite. They should all be main deck for right now, until you can find better options. Rabid Bite will always be prime for you, though.
This is not a bad start for a deck that is a modified Welcome Deck. You'll definitely want some consistency so you'll want more of your best cards and less of your not quite as good cards. As always, practice makes perfect for deck building.