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Enchanted Land has ", Pay 1 life: Draw a card"
Underworld Connections Discussion
1 week ago
Looks solid to me. Theres almost no reason to not just go 4 Castle Locthwain . Dark Prophecy is legal in the format and I think it does a better job than Underworld Connections of drawing cards with multiple sac outlets in the main and has no less than 3 devotion on it. Im also interested to see how your removal package works out! That has been the most in flux aspect of my lists. Grasp of Darkness and Liliana's Triumph are other options
3 weeks ago
Finally someone said it. I've been a black player since the day I started MTG, some 15 years ago now. And it feels like almost that entire 15 years I've spent every day coming closer and closer to this conclusion. These days I don't have it in even a single deck, it's just never worth the card slot. It has to survive a full rotation just to replace itself, and at the cost of 1 life. By the time it's actually generated any tangible advantage, the game is nearing its end.
1 month ago
Love the deck tech and this is an archetype I have thought often of, though trying to do both artifacts and enchantments in a three-color format and not restrict your synergies can be tough. You're better off either going full enchantment or full artifact and then you'll be running a more streamlined, combotastic deck by doing so. I think you've gone heavier on the artifact side, or we'd be seeing more enchantment creatures from Theros and the Commander enchantment-creature precon and enchantment removal spells that combo with things like Blightcaster and Grim Guardian (which all combo with enchanting removal like Pacifism and Prison Realm and Dead Weight , etc.). To this artifact-heavy focus, I think Myr Retriever and Workshop Assistant are too redundant and provide only small bodies on the field when there are so many other cards that have this same effect already in the deck here ( Sharuum the Hegemon , Buried Ruin , etc.). Plus, without a sacrifice outlet, Workshop Assistant is definitely not the kind of card you want to be top-decking in situations where you've run out of steam. On the other hand, you may need more card draw rather than grave draw, since you don't self-mill, (especially if you're in a situation where Distant Melody is dead in your hand) and I think Mask of Riddles is an ideal sideboard/budget alternate for this deck. And is Ever-Watching Threshold in the pre-con? It should be. Faerie Mechanist comes to me as a distant budget option (because it only looks at the top 3 cards of your library, it's too limited to be truly useful since this deck also runs so many enchantments and creatures, but it's got tribal, flying, and it is an artifact as such is worth a mention). Finally, if you can make double-black mana work in your casting, Underworld Connections is card advantage that seems to be a staple of commander that also happens to trigger your commander. Sludge Strider can get you that life back on occasions where you have extra mana and are losing artifact creatures or sacrificing artifacts to effects (heck, even Dimir Locket and Orzhov Locket couldn't go wrong as cheap ramp that gets you card draw in the late game and triggers other effects). And take out the Winged Words from the 60-card precon, which gets you nowhere in a 100-card format, and put in at least a Terramorphic Expanse if you don't have access to better quality dual-lands. Campaign of Vengeance and Ethereal Absolution if you're really committed to going wide with your commander (I mean, with Etchings and Ethereal and your commander, you could have at least five or six 4/3 flying faeries threatening to go wider and wider). They could be protected from board wipes by an additional counterspell, like Stoic Rebuttal . I could go on and on, but definitely replace a few of the things in the precon with at least a few of these.
1 month ago
WUBRG87 Last thing I'd want is to sculpt your deck into something that doesn't feel like yours(!) - I love EDH's lack of homogeneity. Happy to give you my 2 cents with the direction I'd be thinking of from here though and with not too bad of a budget...
More of a sacrifice direction that isn't 'aristocrats'; add another altar ( Phyrexian Altar or Altar of Dementia ), maybe switch Dark Ritual for Culling the Weak - then you would have a good level of sac outlets to have some heavy hitters like Gray Merchant of Asphodel and Kokusho, the Evening Star replace Noble/Zula/Buccaneer. It's a bit contradictory adding sac outlets and removing aristocrats I know but I think the aristocrats make better use of volume (like tokens) and our boy Chainer is better off packing more value into a big recur-able punch.
If it were me, I'd be thinking:
- Falkenrath Noble
- Zulaport Cutthroat
- Glint-Horn Buccaneer
- Charmbreaker Devils
- Corpse Augur (switch for Disciple as another sac outlet)
- Scheming Symmetry (switch for Intent)
- Dark Ritual (switch for CtW)
- Burning Vengeance (Warstorm Surge and Flayer do it better, or drop Warstorm if you wanted to lower the overall CMC)
- 1 of Vampiric Rites , Cathartic Reunion or Underworld Connections (I think there's enough card selection that all 3 of these aren't necessary. Depends if you like the speed or reusability as to which)
- OK I'm stuck on the last one just now!! Maybe Stitcher's Supplier , but then I'd maybe want the Altar of Dementia instead... I'd probably end up saying Dreadbore because sorcery speed. That way Mausoleum Secrets -ing for your Bedevil is essentially your second instant speed spot removal for Planeswalkers
Also, to your point about the 'Compet-o-meter', I'd say the impact will be from the system rating Zula/Noble highly because of combo involvement in decks that revolve around them and the Buccaneer showing up in Nekusar, the Mindrazer lists, which tend to be pretty savage!, rather than necessarily your changes being significantly worse one-for-one. I actually really like Embodiment of Agonies in this, it's cheap and can be a massive beatstick pretty easily.
2 months ago
I've played a lot of modern vamps. Some of the best options are dirt cheap, so it makes for a great budget list to take to FNM. Most of the time I've been in mono black, but splashing for lietennant is fairly low-cost and low-risk for a great card.
For this list, Vampire of the Dire Moon , Vampire Cutthroat , Indulgent Aristocrat will do an amazing job filling out the one-drop slots. They are the 'best' budget setup I've found- great burn matchup and evasion/great deathtouch trades into bigger threats. They also play nice with Lashwrithe and Blade of the Bloodchief .
If your budget is tight enought that filling out with $1 1 drops seems rough, look at Guul Draz Vampire , Shadow Alley Denizen and Pulse Tracker alongside Stromkirk Condemned , Urge to Feed and direct damage like Gonti's Machinations and Bump in the Night . Playing a lot of 1 mana creatures that get pumped is really good, and evasion like intimidate makes something like mono-red burn but with hand disruption.
Two mana stronger options is Legion Lieutenant and Cordial Vampire (you can run Stromkirk Condemned , Dusk Legion Zealot or Cruel Celebrant ), and three is Vampire Nighthawk and Bloodthirsty Aerialist since you have them and want those slots for budget removal/carddraw. Gifted Aetherborn deserves a mention as it used to be cheap, but dire moon is frankly better and in print.
Next we come to the thing that makes budget mono-black king of the budget lists- cheap, effective spells. Sign in Blood is playable card-draw. Underworld Connections while far, far worse than Phyrexian Arena , and worse than bob still performs admirably. Delirium Skeins & Mind Rake devastates control players. Duress successfully hates out combo players. Standard cards like Mire's Toll & Drill Bit perform miracles. Cards like Flaying Tendrils can play at being one-sided boardwipes, and your sideboard has access to all manner of oddball cards that had too many copies to get expensive for modern- from Shadowfeed to Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage .
Grab some playtest tools and muck about- you will find a great deck within your budget that you can muck about with to perform well in your local meta.
3 months ago
Monitor Okay, cool! So the tokens are for value just like mine. Okay here are some other suggestions then.
If you're not looking to fight with your tokens, I would suggest replacing Druids' Repository since it only really works well if you have multiple creatures attacking. Maybe throw in a Shaman of Forgotten Ways as additional creature ramp and a possible win con? It's easy to pull off if you have Itlimoc, Cradle of the Sun and a ton of creatures on your side of the board.
If you plan on throwing in Yawgmoth, Thran Physician , you can replace Underworld Connections with him I think. You can do it multiple times as long as there are creatures on the board and it has the additional function of making your opponent's creatures weaker or even removing Indestructible creatures.
If you are looking to board clear but not kill all your own stuff, I suggest putting in a Blasphemous Act paired with Vigor . Your creatures don't take damage and gain counters based on how much damage was prevented. You get 13 +1/+1 counters really easily for all your creatures, all the while clearing your opponents' boards. Vigor will die but it just gets shuffled back into your library. Or maybe an In Garruk's Wake , though it has a large cmc.
Another funny tip I have is that you can infinite with Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest and Ulasht, the Hate Seed with an Ashnod's Altar . It gives infinite colorless mana and infinite +1/+1 counters for all your creatures except Ulasht unless you have a counter/token doubler. And because you have Poison-Tip Archer , Purphoros, God of the Forge and Walking Ballista you have a lot of different options to win with this combo. Even Blasting Station can work if you have a token doubler out. The reason I like it is because it isn't a super cheap way to win. It isn't out right like "haha these two cards are out, i win". You need other tools to make it function. You can fetch them with Tooth and Nail if you were to put it in.
Other than that, I think your deck is pretty solid! 35-36 lands would be ideal in here for sure.
3 months ago
I understand temple bell can work well with smothering tithe but most of the time you will not have both and generally everyone draw 1 cards are not good unless your entire strategy is built around them. An enchantment like Underworld Connections would suit this deck much better if you needed the draw. To clarify im not saying Phyrexian Processor is a bad card i just think it is too much of an investment for what it makes, adding a combo or even a different bomb i think would be better, Aetherflux Reservoir i think would be a better outlet for your life (but would add a combo finisher first).
removal you might consider:
a couple of less good situational removal
Seize the Soul = Value
Gideon's Intervention = stop decks that require thier commander
board wipes to consider:
Merciless Eviction = be careful what of yours get exiled
and the two edengstrom1 suggested I would recommend running a couple even if a lot of the time they sit in your hand too long before they become necessary, some board states you just cant come back from.
4 months ago
Underworld Connections is a good card draw if necessary. I really like the build. Tell us how it does is matches!! .
Underworld Connections occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%