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Whenever another creature you control dies, create a colorless Treasure artifact token with ", Sacrifice this artifact: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool."
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Pitiless Plunderer Discussion
1 day ago
If it's tribal, why do you have so many not-zombies? I'd really stream line this deck. Maybe take away some of the vampires who aren't doing much? Focus on lords, tutors and maybe a Pitiless Plunderer to go infinite.
4 days ago
Excellent question on what to drop, Daedalus19876. I usually find the idea "When in doubt, drop a land" to be good practice....
Do you find yourself short on mana, or having to wait a turn longer than you hoped for game changing plays? I guess that's the big question, followed by what cards do you find not being so game changing providing good effects in low instances? Archfiend of Ifnir perhaps, if he's just been "pretty good"? It seems like the mana that Cryptolith Rite and Pitiless Plunderer could provide you in a deck with these mechanics could be pretty significant, all the time... but then again, the mass snakes that Archfiend could give you.... hmmm.
5 days ago
gdm1989: Honestly, it's just not worth the 9 mana to me; one copy of Hapatra is enough to go infinite ;)
goldlion: Thank you for the comment! I'm glad the deck seems interesting :D
In answer to your questions: Cryptolith Rite is one of the many cards on the maybeboard at the moment...I own a foil copy, and I know it would be fantastic in the deck, but I'm not sure what to cut for it...Any ideas? ;)
Pitiless Plunderer is an interesting thought, I hadn't considered that previously. I'll think on it! Black Market is probably too slow, I'm afraid, and honestly this deck doesn't have many good mana sinks for it (very low CMC curve overall, since I have ways to cheat in high-cost things like Craterhoof). Archfiend of Ifnir has proven to be pretty good, albeit somewhat conditional. Luckily, I can cycle him away if I don't have Survival of the Fittest or Generous Patron, so he never hangs out in my hand being useless. Thanks for your thoughts!
OptimalGreen: Full disclosure - while Exotic Orchard IS a good card, and fantastic-looking in foil, I accidentally forgot to order my fourth fetch. It's on its way now >.< and Ifnir Deadlands is...so-so, in my testing so far. The issue is that many times I want a basic Swamp for Earthcraft, and the 5 mana to get the 2 counters is pretty rough. Though, to be fair, I do like the cute synergy with Scavenger Grounds :3
5 days ago
1 week ago
Your theft idea works but it is ridiculously slow. Try some of these.
There are a lot of things that you could use besides those but most of them only produce black mana like Crypt Ghast.
1 week ago
Yes EsperPanorama, I have considered using Pawn of Ulamog. Currently, I have Pitiless Plunderer in that roll, but you're absolutely right in saying that Pawn doubles up. The original build of the deck was token heavy, and so Pawn didn't trigger nearly as much to make it worth a slot. With the current iteration Pawn would fit much nicer.
Considering I just updated the deck while you were commenting, let me know what you think about removing most of the token generators for the 1-2 cmc self-sacrificing creatures.
1 week ago
Using Elenda is a good idea. I can see the potential there, but you're right in that it would disrupt the combo synergy of the deck just a bit. I try to make sure I have multiple paths to combos, and so I hesitate to run something that is niche or doesn't combo with as many other cards. Having a beat stick like her is great, but swinging is usually a last resort for this deck and is usually done through infinite tokens or an infinite/infinite Ghave or Carrion Feeder.
You're actually the first to bring up Pitiless Plunderer. I'm always surprised by the amount of value cards I see coming out of Ixalan. This one is actually a good one to consider for various ways to abuse infinite death triggers. I'm not sure who's spot it would take, but you've put it on my radar.
Okay...that deck idea is awesome! It's so jank, and I've never seen something quite like that before. I'll take a look at it more in depth and give you my thoughts. I tend to put a lot of stock into clever deck names, and I think you've definitely got a winning name there.
Thanks for taking the time to look at my deck. I just hope I've done Ghave justice.
1 week ago
Yep, Pattern of Rebirth was made for ghave!
Elenda, the Dusk Rose + Blade of the Bloodchief (as mentioned) is a great combo in my Vampiric Ghave deck - I suppose it woould be taking away from the intensity of combo synergy here. However, Elenda seems like a good powerhouse to have around - an infinitely large giant life-linker ready to swing in.
Pitiless Plunderer is in another version of Ghave I have and, with any sac cycle, he will make it infinite. I'm sure someone has recommended him already, but just in case.
This is awesome to see. Ghave is definitely a favourite of mine as well - he's pretty good for enabling janky strategies.
Here's my Janky Ghave work in progress:
Commander / EDH*
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I'd appreciate any ideas for speeding it up and enabling the general strategy. While I use some of the strategies you listed here in my regular Ghave, seeing them here have given me an idea on what to adopt for the Jank version. I've got the core idea in, but now I think it's time to bring in the altars, undying, and a few cheaper counter multipliers like Bloodspore Thrinax and Sigil Captain and Ivy Lane Denizen as Cathars' Crusade is interfering with Ghave's casting turn and the rest of the combo (in my context).
It's great to see Ghave at his best. My friends hate seeing him come out - I don't get room to breathe cause no matter what's happening on my board, the know it's a matter of time before the explosion of spores happens.