Go for the Throat
Destroy target nonartifact creature.
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|Commander 2017 (C17)||Uncommon|
|Mirrodin Besieged (MBS)||Uncommon|
|Mirrodin Besieged: Mirran (MBM)||Uncommon|
|Promo Set (000)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Go for the Throat occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.04%
Go for the Throat Discussion
3 days ago
I agree that you could definitely use some hand disruption in here - if Thoughtseize is out of your budget you could look at Inquisition of Kozilek or Collective Brutality. The later of which pairs extremely well with Bloodghast.
Doom Blade is a little weak for modern - maybe consider stronger removal like Fatal Push or Murderous Cut. Go for the Throat or Victim of Night are also options, though not as strong in my opinion. Hero's Downfall and Murderous Rider fit the bill too.
2 weeks ago
On devotion...Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx could be a powerful land for you, if it's within budget. While not a Vampire, Gray Merchant of Asphodel has some potential here, rewarding your mono-black nature and supporting your life-gain theme.
These are just a couple of suggestions I have. Most of them should be fairly cheap to pick up! Other than that, this looks really fun to play. You could also get a bit more cruel with your sacrifice subtheme and add Dictate of Erebos or Grave Pact. Food for thought...
Heartless Summoning is going to disable several of your creatures from staying alive, unfortunately. Given that your mana curve mostly stops at 5, I doubt you need the cost reduction it gives you. Even just looking at your commander, it turns Drana into just a 1/2 at first, which really isn't that intimidating. While it does allow you to play 5-mana creatures on turn 3 (and don't get me wrong, this IS powerful), I worry that your 1/1 creatures would be dead weight in your hand.
3 weeks ago
I would cut every instant you have except Vraska's Contempt, and only because it's decent to start with. Regarding your lifegain, lifegain is the worst strategy in EDH. Life doesn't do you anything unless you have a way to use and abuse the lifetotal (Necropotence, Aetherflux Reservoir, etc....)
Cabal Ritual - Better in storm/competitive builds. There is nothing wrong with it tbh, but understand that you will be at a card disadvantage after casting ramp that only ramps you for one turn. You should add more artifact ramp instead.
Sorin's Thirst- Much better removal for cheaper like Go for the Throat
Suffer the Past - Grave hate is nice, instant speed too, lifegain is useless. Better grave hate if you really want it
Tendrils of Corruption - A pet card of mine, but 4 mana to hold up at instant speed is hard (same issue with Vraska's contempt). Replace with cheaper removal such as Hero's Downfall
Radiant Fountain - Does nothing good, replace with Deserted Temple to untap coffers or nytkhos. Don't forget to add urborg in place of a swamp
Cutting enchantments..... (lots are expensive)
Palace Siege - Useless draining and weak recursion
Polluted Bonds - Weak IMO, costs too much like the others
Retreat to Hagra - Both modes are weak
Revenge of Ravens - Lifeloss is minimal
Trespasser's Curse - See above
1 month ago
triproberts12 thanks for commenting on the deck! I have some drawing spells in there already like Necrologia and Ambition's Cost but I do like your suggestions for lower cost draw spells. My concern with Skeletal Scrying is exiling potentially useful cards since my graveyard is basically the waiting area for all the instant recursion I'd like to see mid-game. I like Moonlight Bargain and am searching for a place to add that particular friend. Because I'm so creature light, I haven't really cared much to use a lot of anti-instant defense in this but I'm considering removing some of my current instants to incorporate some of your suggestions. After I play this a few more times as is, I'll see if some slots merit that defensive capability. For the other synergy options you suggested, some of them I thought the CMC cost too high for their effect or already had a means to do a similar thing ( like Mirari for example, I have Primal Amulet Flip to offer spell copies and add the cost reduction beforehand!). Of your list, I loved the idea of adding Isochron Scepter and Runechanter's Pike ! Mixing Isochron with Dark Ritual or Cabal Ritual for mana, Thrilling Encore or Grim Return to add friends from other graveyards to Toshiro's party, or Liliana's Triumph , Snuff Out , or Go for the Throat for unending killing/sacrificing fun! And Runecrafter's just amps the crap out of (most likely) Toshiro for another avenue of commander damage FTW. Thank you for all your suggestions!
1 month ago
@sam171z, I've never built in golgari colors or green more specifically so my advice might not be the best.
Based on your deck you might find Arbor Elf helpful.
Skullclamp is a really good card draw source especially if you pair it with Bloodghast and fetch-lands. Dark Tutelage is another option if you don't mind the life loss. Mirri's Guile seems to also be pretty strong with shuffle effects like fetch-lands.
Pattern of Rebirth seems like a really strong tutor effect for you.
Hope this helps you.
catmaster0 on Rankle
1 month ago
I imagine Cabal Stronghold might be up your alley. Lashwrithe is just a fun an efficient beater in black that works with any of your small guys as well. Heck, as a control deck Empowered Autogenerator should keep your high curved sated in time. Mind Sludge seems like reasonably powerful discard power.
Given this is control idk why you wouldn't have draw power such as Phyrexian Arena , or even Underworld Connections , Coercive Portal . Ob Nixilis Reignited even serves those goals with some removal splashed in.
1 month ago
Appreciate the input either way. That is honestly the main reason I started using tappedout. So my decks get some input from other players outside my LGS.
FYI, i live in the East Coast(New York) so it is almost 3:30am here, either way, no problem :D
Cloud Key You haven't been the first to suggest this(one of my friends thinks it should be in(IN ADDITION, to helm of awakening)). I'll play around with it once i pickup one for K'rrik. I see the potential in it. When I first saw K'rrik spoiled, the idea of the deck was much different. It seemed silly since K'rrik pays for Black and I wouldn't want that many artifacts... However, now that the deck/general idea for K'rrik is more colorless than you'd think, I might put in Voltaic Key and other artifacts(maybe Scroll Rack , but honestly didn't test too good since I didn't end of using it too much...that one colorless would always go towards something else.) I honestly am going to give it a shot. I should mention, the above deck isn't my current build. There are a few cards I've been changing in and out to test out.
Mind Twist seems lackluster IMO, if I do run rings, maybe?(even then it seems not needed). Also, making someone discard their hand seems a waste when i'd rather just win the game. If it was Instant speed, i'd maybe consider it. However it is not. I doubt i'd ever run it to be honest.
Syphon Mind Totally get it. I don't even think the cost is that bad. It was a thought... but that was it. After playing the deck for so long, drawing cards usually isn't a big problem...I do have a bunch of card draw already. Such as Greed ( or other examples: Erebos, necropotence, arguel's blood fast etc.) Plus Villis, sensei's and other cards(cantrips(in this deck, Nihil Spellbomb is basically a cantrip/free card but whenever I need it...but usually I save it to stop a combo or to help enable my own combo.
Murderous Rider was a thought aswell. It honestly seems like a slightly worse Vraska's Contempt... Mainly because of the Exile(eldrazi go bye bye!). Hero's Downfall was in the very first draft of this deck. Now Rider is better IMO since it shuffles in/doubles as a creature. It honestly may go in Go for the Throat 's place.
2 months ago
A few comments.
First, I don't know if Drown in the Loch is the best card for this deck. You aren't milling your opponent except for vantress, and you really want to be proactive in the early turns so you don't have the mana to keep drowned up. Other removal spells may be better, like Go for the Throat , Fatal Push , or extra copies of what you've got already.
Second, Invisible Stalker seems too cute to me. Without varolz stalker is just dealing 1 point of damage a turn, which seems really weak. If you had something like Kitesail Freebooter or Bitterblossom that was a good card on its own that had evasion, varolz could work with that, but stalker just felt like a bad card whenever I drew it on the limited testing I did.
Finally, I would switch out the Liliana for oko, but that may be personal preference/bias. I feel like Oko is better against tron and aggro and may be worse in the attrition mirror, but not by a huge margin. However, I haven't played with the deck a ton and you may find one works a lot better than the other.
I like the deck.