|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Commander 2017 (C17)||Uncommon|
|Mirrodin Besieged (MBS)||Uncommon|
|Mirrodin Besieged: Mirran (MBM)||Uncommon|
|Promo Set (000)||Uncommon|
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Go for the Throat
Destroy target nonartifact creature.
|Have (2)||metalmagic ,|
|Want (7)||hailsagan , SpetznazM16 , Shirayuki , mocaba , Mac-Daddy , lookoutscience , aolmenki|
Go for the Throat Discussion
6 days ago
A few comments.
First, I don't know if Drown in the Loch is the best card for this deck. You aren't milling your opponent except for vantress, and you really want to be proactive in the early turns so you don't have the mana to keep drowned up. Other removal spells may be better, like Go for the Throat , Fatal Push , or extra copies of what you've got already.
Second, Invisible Stalker seems too cute to me. Without varolz stalker is just dealing 1 point of damage a turn, which seems really weak. If you had something like Kitesail Freebooter or Bitterblossom that was a good card on its own that had evasion, varolz could work with that, but stalker just felt like a bad card whenever I drew it on the limited testing I did.
Finally, I would switch out the Liliana for oko, but that may be personal preference/bias. I feel like Oko is better against tron and aggro and may be worse in the attrition mirror, but not by a huge margin. However, I haven't played with the deck a ton and you may find one works a lot better than the other.
I like the deck.
2 weeks ago
I see you want cut ideas based on your comment on my wall. As such....
Gnat Miser - Weak static effect and doesn't do much other than being a tekashi69 (a rat :P)
Sinuous Vermin - Being or not being a monsterous, it is weak. Not worth a slot.
Swarm of Rats - Potentially big dude with no trample, you already have 1 or 2 of these, redundancy is not needed. I don't even think the others are. They seem win-more.
Typhoid Rats - Is cute, but 1/1 deathtouch with no way to abuse is ripe for cutting.
Bad Moon - Definition of win-more. Anthem helps opponents too, weak static effect. Not worth it at all.
Gravepurge - Eh, there is much better recursion in black if you are so inclined.
You could add in some more relentless rats or some of the suggestions I recommended.
Coffers is the primary card you should add if you can, SO much ramp. But I'm biased because I have a deck based on it. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx would help you ramp out alot too!
Reply here instead of on my wall so I can keep track of everything :)
1 month ago
As others have said, you should be in good shape. Mono Black can be very easy to run on budget, excellent at creature removal, and can find ways to out tempo ramp decks.
I wouldn't worry about blocking ramp as much as I would focus on creating it in your own way. Along the lines Dark Ritual or Artifacts. Cabal Stronghold is the budget alternative to Cabal Coffers . Crypt Ghast might be slightly out of budget, but does the job of Nirkana Revenant somewhat cheaper. I'm a huge fan of Life's Finale , which is criminally underplayed and pretty budget, especially in a meta that isn't in their own graveyards too much. It's always good to have a boardwipe or 2 on deck, but I find mono black can get quite a lot done with spot removal, and that is far easier on a budget. You already have Damnation when you need it. Black Sun's Zenith is also an option because you can proliferate the counters later. Lashwrithe and/or Nightmare Lash are good and not expensive. Disciple of the Vault is again criminally underplayed if you want to go that route. Get yourself some cheap tutors cause thats Black's go to. Diabolic Tutor , Scheming Symmetry , Beseech the Queen are the best budget options. Card draw is a must, and you get Sign in Blood , Read the Bones , and a host of other cheap draw spells to go along with you Phyrexian Arena .
And I hate to be that guy, but infect is pretty budget, on theme, and works wonders even if you just splash it as a win con. Tainted Strike Plague Myr Ichor Rats . You can then use your Commander to pay and discard a card a few times to win.
Black has a ton of options even on a budget. Just depends which way you want to go.
1 month ago
Lhurgyof: Thank you for your comment! I think Slaughter Pact is typically a good card in the Side Board, because it is too conditional (can not kill black creatures). There are some other cheap instants in the deck which can destroy a single creature like Go for the Throat and Defile , but normally I meet black creatures more frequently than artifact creatures in my play group. Anyway, thank you for checking the deck and thinking about suggestion!
1 month ago
I always feel I'm a little low on single target removal in most of my decks so I'm a little hesitant to drop down on Go for the Throat , so that might stay in there for a while.
I really like the inclusion of Dread Presence as well, but I feel if I would want to play him, I'd want to throw in Burnished Hart and Solemn Simulacrum as well, which would bring me back up the ones I just cut haha.
1 month ago
My thought is that you'll have the easiest time finding things to cut under 'utility'. I'd probably try going without Sorin Markov but YMMV here. Deathgreeter is super inexpensive but just dinks and dunks life and you should be draining decently with your aristocrat cards and Disciple. You could probably lose one of Bitterblossom , Dreadhorde Invasion or Desecrated Tomb
Your weakest targeted removal spell is probably Go for the Throat due to targeting restrictions. Not sure if you're comfortable going down one in this category though.
Dread Presence could take the place of say Dark Prophecy and Vindictive Vampire as it can swap back and forth between modes as needed. It can also act as some additional removal as the 2 damage is to any target. Hard to get multiple land drops without a dedicated 'lands matter' theme but the Hart can get you there or something like Myriad Landscape .
Overall, not a list with easy cuts as everything looks useful to the deck. +1 incoming.
1 month ago
The rules wording of Hexproof means "This permanent can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control." If you give your Beast hexproof in response to it being targeted, it will no longer be a legal target.
In the case of Go for the Throat specifically, the spell's only target is no longer legal and the spell will "fizzle," or simply fail to resolve and be removed from the stack, with the card sent to the graveyard. If it were a spell like Curtains' Call , where it has two targets, and the other target was still legal, then the spell would still resolve and just do as much as it could (your creature would survive due to no longer being a legal target).
1 month ago
Go for the Throat occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.06%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.04%