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Gravestorm (When you play this spell, copy it for each permanent put into a graveyard this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies.)
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Bitter Ordeal Discussion
1 week ago
hello really like your deck
Cloudstone Curio with Rooftop Storm is the combo you are probably looking for boucing Gray Merchant of Asphodel to drain everyone or bouncing Grave Defiler to cast all zombie in your deck but you could stick with only Rooftop Storm + Grimgrin, Corpse-Born + Gravecrawler + Diregraf Captain
for the cut it really depend on how you play the deck the problem is that you are trying to do everything you have control/agro/combo going on you should pick combo/agro or control/combo
for the card that in my opinion arent worth to play are : Consuming Aberration , Fatestitcher, Geth, Lord of the Vault, Ghoulcaller Gisa, Josu Vess, Lich Knight, Liliana's Reaver, Noosegraf Mob, Stitcher Geralf, Undead Alchemist, liliana, death's majesty, Liliana Vess , Cancel, Counterspell, Hero's Downfall, Murder, Negate, Silumgar's Command, Quietus Spike, Sword of Vengeance, Freed from the Real, Training Grounds, Army of the Damned, Dark Salvation, Rise from the Tides, Ruinous Path also cut some of the worst land like Dimir Guildgate and run some more basic
for the card that you should be adding to the list: Grave Defiler, Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, Phyrexian Altar, Skullclamp, Throne of the God-Pharaoh, Bitter Ordeal could be good if your local meta is a lot of food chain/flash hulk or combo deck , Diabolic Intent and all the other tutor if you have the money Cabal Coffers + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
ps: my recommendation fit for a agro/combo deck
1 week ago
About your ramp: Farseek, Rampant Growth and Fellwar Stone are better than Obelisk of Bant and Obelisk of Esper, because they enable a turn 3 Atraxa if you drop them at turn 2. I would recommend cutting these cards to put the lands I suggested before: Festercreep, Bitter Ordeal, Retribution of the Ancients, Grim Affliction, Pistus Strike. You may consider Swords to Plowshares, Utter End. You can also check my Atraxa decklist. I organize it by role (draw, ramp, removal, win condition, etc) so I can figure out what I have and what I need. Have fun!
3 weeks ago
I feel like leaning heavier on a combo style with Mind Funeral/Bitter Ordeal would do a lot to help consistancy here. Having the persistant crab/orb threat, while keeping a hand full of disruption and looking for a 5-8 mana instant speed 'exile lands, mill to lands' plan seems strong.
I'd look at ad nausiem for manabase and card options- their combo protects itself more than yours, running things like Lotus Bloom and Pentad Prism to power out a Haunting Echoes or Sadistic Sacrament with the option of jamming a damnation into a Damnation/Bitter Ordeal kill.
The big thing to look for is ways to make psychogenic probe less of a dead draw. A lot of people might hate me, but this might be better as a Lantern of Insight list- looking for topdeck threats, trying to reach topdeck mode, and steadily chipping away at your opponent.
Looking at other options like Cosi's Trickster could give some much needed board presence and life point threat on the side, and provide additional ordeal payoff.
The big battle is that trying to mill out an opponent and deal damage to them tends to split your deck's power, and without multimodal spells that give you options on both (none spring to mind, so I'm guessing they haven't been printed yet), 'purer' mill strategy cards are unlikely to play well in a list with probe/ordeal. Maindecking a 'blank your opponents hand by exiling graveyard stuff' sounds good in theory, but our meta at the moment includes a lot of decks which put creatures on the board right away and start swininging, so its likely a longer term strat in a deck running a creature disruption core.
Good luck with the list, and i hope you get it running well- please update with the results of whatever testing you do.
3 weeks ago
I like red because of the power of Faithless Looting, the fact that Tuktuk the Explorer is good at blocking to buy time, and that Grapeshot is more consistent and versatile than Bitter Ordeal. I also like the backup sideboard plan of Impact Tremors. But thanks for the suggestion!
3 weeks ago
Mesmeric Orb, and Hedron Crab need to be in the list, imo. They allow you to get cards into the graveyard for free each turn to help ramp Bitter Ordeal. Having played against mill, a fair bit. Those are the two cards I hate seeing the most.
4 weeks ago
@Homelessguy - Deadbridge Chant looks excellent, unfortunately it is CMC 6 and that is very high for a card I won't eventually be able to cheat into play. Id also like something that is cheaper so I can begin milling in the early game. Bitter Ordeal seems like some excellent side board tech for my meta, but it won't self mill because it exiles, and I need things to go into my graveyard. Haha. Thanks for the suggestions though!!
4 weeks ago
Oh wow looking great!