Bitter Ordeal


Format Legality
Pre-release Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Future Sight (FUT) Rare

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Bitter Ordeal


Search target player's library for a card and remove that card from the game. Then that player shuffles his or her library.

Gravestorm (When you play this spell, copy it for each permanent put into a graveyard this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies.)

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Bitter Ordeal Discussion

Rogue_Toaster on Victory or Seppuku

1 hour ago

I actually have my own Toshiro deck that Ive been tinkering with. Cards like Black Sun's Zenith and Mutilate are useful for handling both swarms of tokens and hexproof/indestructible threats, which this deck can struggle with. Another shortcoming of this deck can be games against spell-based builds, which is where graveyard hate and other forms of disruption are especially important.

Shred Memory is also aces as a tutor that also doubles as grave hate (which doesn't even interfere with your own graveyard). Using Toshiro, you can even transmute it AND use the spell side.

I've also been messing around with Praetor's Grasp as a way to snag threats like Iona and the like before they hit the field and to grab ways to deal with problematic artifacts and enchantments. Bitter Ordeal is kind of in the same vein, but I use it as more of an alternate win con.

Sorry about the long post, but Toshiro is awesome and I've been working on my own list for quite awhile. I hope this was helpful :)

Triton on Library......Where?!

1 week ago

For a combo deck, I'd recommend to go all-in on the combo, so including cheap tutors like Shred Memory is helpful, because it tutors all of the combo pieces (the actual effect is negligible). Cabal Ritual is another card that helps ramp into your combo so you can play it sooner.

Also, card draw like Night's Whisper and Sign in Blood are very nice to help draw into combo pieces.

For cuts I'd recommend Murder and Diabolic Tutor for Cabal Ritual and Shred Memory. The former two are rather inefficient at what you want to do. Wight of Precinct Six and Dimir Machinations could also be cut for draw power (Wight is win-moar, because you're already milling out your opponent with this combo).

Depending on your budget, I'd recommend Cabal Coffers for more ramp and maybe Bitter Ordeal for more ways to mill out your opponent.

Hope this helps!

shade1400 on [PRIMER] Sidisi Adaptive Combo

1 month ago

I like it! It's definitely possible. The only problem with Gaea's Blessing in the Storm Template shell is what you mentioned where the graveyard will potentially keep shuffling back into the library. That's not necessarily a bad thing as long as you are able to keep hitting permanents in the graveyard but it's more variance. It seems like, assuming you also have a discard outlet, you might want to tutor out Gaea's Blessing as well as Bitter Ordeal to ensure that you don't start shuffling until you're ready. Of course that makes things a bit slower but you'd be sure to get what you want without the variance.

Maybe more of a control shell would support it because of its speed? I'm not really sure though. You could definitely support it with the rest of the combo pieces gone.

Managem on [PRIMER] Sidisi Adaptive Combo

1 month ago

Yeah I was thinking if there were different janky things that could be done with Inverter of Truth or Paradigm Shift with the shell of this deck. Then I thought, wait, Eternal Scourge + Food Chain Bitter Ordeal + Sidisi, Brood Tyrant in conjunction with having Gaea's Blessing in your Graveyard is an indefinite/infinite mill combo, since your casting Sidisi "infinitely" each time you hit Gaea's Blessing it shuffles you're entire graveyard, including itself back into your library allowing you to do it to the desired amount racking up the "Gravestorm" count on Bitter Ordeal to one's desire, given you hard tutored for Bitter Ordeal, and haven't drawn Gaea's Blessing.

However you did mention the potential variance of drawing Gaea's Blessing which would slow/hinder the Bitter Ordeal combo down. If one wanted to lean more towards this combo within the shell of this deck, all you have to do is add redundancy at that point. Along with Gaea's Blessing you could also throw in the deck Kozilek, Butcher of Truth Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre and Emrakul, the Aeons Torn to increase your probability of not drawing out the ability to reshuffle your graveyard into your library, which is obviously part of the main engine for Bitter Ordeal. I think I'm going to basically use the shell of your deck, in essence but going to use the Bitter Ordeal combo so I don't feel like I'm completely deck teching.

I feel the Bitter Ordeal combo is a bit slower, and takes a bit more time to set up. If I were to focus mostly on this combo, I would have to follow your Storm Wincon template. I think the best way to set it up is also hard tutoring for Bitter Ordeal If we don't hard tutor for Bitter Ordeal we can just aim to begin milling ourselves immediately, at this point I would only want say, Gaea's Blessing in the library with no Eldrazi's, because we hope to mill ourselves into Dread Return along with Bitter Ordeal + Eternal Witness in the graveyard, otherwise we're sitting here playing the shuffle/mill game for each time we hit Gaea's Blessing UNTIL we hit Dread Return WITH Bitter Ordeal + Eternal Witness in the graveyard bringing back Eternal to fetch Bitter.

In conclusion if I were to go Bitter Ordeal combo, the more practical way to do it would be to also tutor out Bitter putting it in hand, along with something that allows you to discard a card incase you drew into, or started with Gaea's Blessing in hand. I really want to emphasize on this combo using your deck as a shell, which would probably result in tweaking the deck with some stuff to make Bitter Ordeal the main focus. If one did not hard tutor for Bitter. I could go with Food Chain+Eternal Scourge+Sidisi+Viscera Seer+A sac outlet on board. Milling a bunch for each time we hit Gaea's Blessing, creating a lot of tokens. Then start saccing tokes to scry dig until we reach Bitter and want to draw into it. Idk definitely some playing around with the deck for an efficient Bitter Ordeal build, but I feel it's possible?

shade1400 on [PRIMER] Sidisi Adaptive Combo

1 month ago

I think my only concern with Paradigm Shift and Inverter of Truth is that the remaining cards shuffle into the library so I can't stack them. Paradigm Shift looks really fun at 2cmc though. Definitely something I'd like to brew with.

I really like the Bitter Ordeal combo since it's exile and not straight mill. I also like Gaea's Blessing a lot but the variance of drawing it is what has stopped me from using it. I'd feel more comfortable running ways to discard it if I draw it. Or more cards like Brainstorm/Memory's Journey or even Reclaim to get it back into the library. This combo definitely works in the deck's shell though!

frogkill45 on Black Infinite Mill

1 month ago

a few copies of Bitter Ordeal can help you combo if you dont have altar of the brood

Barsan on How to mill an opponent on Turn 6 in Commander

1 month ago

How do you deal with Eldrazi like Kozilek, Butcher of Truth or Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre? Can you include a Tormod's Crypt or Bitter Ordeal so you aren't DOA on the first Whiff? You can use the additional ripple Triggers and keep careful count of your library to push one of them into the top 3 cards of your deck, that way when Balthor is ready to go you'll be able to either Exile a graveyard or 58 cards from a library.

(Technically you can handle one Eldrazi with Demon of Dark Schemes and your remaining 3 mana... just be sure to go one mill at a time

MRDOOM3 on Yahenni destroys the world

1 month ago

Black Market goes really well in a Yahenni deck. Maybe you also can consider Reprocess, Bitter Ordeal, Urborg Justice, Eliminate the Competition, and Plunge into Darkness are nice as well, especially in a sac-heavy deck.

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