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Search target player's library for a card and remove that card from the game. Then that player shuffles his or her library.
Gravestorm (When you play this spell, copy it for each permanent put into a graveyard this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies.)
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Bitter Ordeal Discussion
10 hours ago
BalkanDS Honestly, I play the passive route when in multiplayer. So my mind set is less about winning, and more about just having fun and ruining lives. That said, even playing passively lets one get to the win sometimes. A week or so ago, Psychic Battle got me the win. it was a long drawn out 5 hour game, where literally i had to think and respond to every spell cast. but it was neat seeing it happen.
I've also accidentally won via planeswalker ults, notably Jace, the Mind Sculptor and Tamiyo, the Moon Sage. Once even Won with Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver, got to play Kozilek, Butcher of Truth with her before
Also don't forget that Oona, Queen of the Fae can drop a LOT of flyers ;)
2 days ago
Bitter Ordeal goes well with Armageddon or a board wipe
3 days ago
Hello. Unfortunately, I could not find anything listed that I wanted in exchange of the Plateau. However, looking over you want list, I saw that you wanted Bitter Ordeal and Serra Ascendant. I came up with:
Bitter Ordeal ($7.64) + Serra Ascendant ($18.9), $26.54 total; for your Thoughtseize ($23.15) and Burgeoning (3.49), $26.64.
prices were taken from tcgplayer mid, assuming burgeoning/thoughtseize are conspiracy/theros respectively.
4 days ago
I don't know if this combo will be of any use for you but it exists and it is cool:
Haakon, Stromgald Scourge + Basal Sliver + Skeletal Changeling + Bitter Ordeal. The changeling is a Sliver Knight, so you sacrifice it, getting two mana, then recast it from the grave with that mana, loop it a million times then exile everyone's libraries
5 days ago
How about Grinning Totem? Pick best creature in someone's deck and change Lazav into it.
For being even more nastier, You may try to add card that exile cards from enemies libraries and then use Eldrazi creatures that bring exiled cards to graveyards. By that I mean something like this:
2 weeks ago
I think I'd still prefer Bitter Ordeal, though, to Grasp 'cause Bitter costs one, as well as always hitting more cards than Grasp.
The lack of Realms was weird to me, though. I kinda get why you don't run it... ish. My meta isn't aggressive enough to need to win the second Get Good hits play.
Also: I didn't say Helldozer was good, I said it was fun. XD
2 weeks ago
DudelRok: Thanks for taking time to look at my deck, I am always open to new suggestions. I'll talk a bit about each of the cards you recommended for the list.
Drownyard Temple is useful but there is no need for it in the deck. It can give you value in grindy games, but this is a fast combo deck so a colorless land that doesn't ramp you and isn't part of the combo is not worth it.
Helldozer is about as casual a card as they come. Anything over 3 cmc has to be game winning or a combo piece to be worth including in the deck. Definitely not worth it.
Bitter Ordeal is a decent wincon for the deck. Due to the nature of the combo though, we only need a single sorcery speed wincon and I think Praetor's Grasp is the best card for the slot. It has the most utility outside of the combo and can randomly mise games against certain focused combo decks (like other Gitrog decks). You could definitely run Bitter Ordeal instead, but you probably don't want both.
Retreat to Hagra is a terrible card and not a strong wincon. This style of card does nothing to help the combo and is completely unnecessary to win once the combo is going. Because the combo draws your entire deck, you don't need much wincon redundancy and there is no need to run wincons that are not good on their own.
Last Laugh see Retreat to Hagra
Realms Uncharted is a card that has seen play in the deck before. It is a decent tutor for Dakmor Salvage but it costs 3 mana. It is nice that it is an instant, but I have found that there is no need to be running any of the 3 drop tutors (except Praetor's Grasp which is a wincon). In the more midrange version of the deck this card is a powerhouse. It is by no means a bad card, I may even put it in the maybeboard so people know it is worth considering.
2 weeks ago
Have you considered Drownyard Temple at all? I run it with the land outlets, Helldozer is a funny one by the way, and Bitter Ordeal to exile decks or with Retreat to Hagra for infinite life drain/kill. I also am currently running Last Laugh for the same thing.
I mean, even if they counter Laugh/hagra/etc, I can just redraw them unless they have been exiled and that just requires a single green to resolve with Riftsweeper.