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Split second (As long as this spell is on the stack, players can't play spells or activated abilities that aren't mana abilities.)
Creatures target player controls become 0/2 and lose all abilities until end of turn.
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Sudden Spoiling Discussion
6 days ago
Here are a few cards I think you should add if you want to go down the Hapatra trail mindful some a loot right now >.< Harbinger of Night, Grim Poppet,Deity of Scars, Serrated Biskelion, Deadbridge Chant, Victimize, Grave Pact, Skullclamp, Dusk Urchins, Sudden Spoiling, Creakwood Liege, Krosan Grip, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Channeler Initiate, Seshiro the Anointed, Skinrender, Beastmaster Ascension
I can add more later but the gist of it is using Sac and reanimate to abuse ETB. Then using overrun effects like Seshiro and Beastmasters ascension to roll over the cleared out boards. Also using lots of sac reanimate lets you use a more toolbox approach similar to Meren decks!
1 week ago
I'm not sure if you're aware of it, but Everflowing Chalice with 4 counters, The Chain Veil and Tezzeret the Seeker 's +1 ability form an infinite combo that lets you use your Planeswalkers abilities endlessly.
Also, the new green/red planeswalker Samut, the Tested from the soon to be released standard set with that combo will let you jank your entire deck onto the board in one turn if played correctly.
To really stuff up your creature-heavy opponents, you can use cards like Humility Crawlspace Sphere of Safety Propaganda Ghostly Prison Sudden Spoiling. While I know you don't want to use creatures, these ones may convince you to make an exception. Silent Arbiter and Peacekeeper.
Depending on how far you want to go into fogging, Illusionist's Gambit and Chronomantic Escape may be of interest to you. Illusionist's Gambit is also doubly hilarious if some smug timmy player tries to run his huge board into you and instead gets forced to redirect his attack into someone else who wipes his board clean.
1 week ago
Horobi, Death's Wail is strong in any deck with Cauldron of Souls in it: Murder everything your opponents control, unconditionally! Your commander also becomes a Murder-on-a-stick. It's worth mentioning, however, that you don't draw cards from your commander when used in this way (since the creature is destroyed before the ability resolves). Still, you can put -1 counters in other ways.
You have a lot of cycling cards in here, which makes sense with Archfiend of Ifnir. But why cycle one card at a time? Wheel of Fortune, Magus of the Wheel, Dark Deal, Reforge the Soul, etc give you card advantage while disrupting opponents and also being MASSIVE sources of discard. (Just make sure not to wheel away your commander unless you want to pay the tax.)
If you can put two -1 counters on your opponents' creatures, Sudden Spoiling murders their board. You may have to explain layers to your opponents, heh. But it's a gorgeous combat trick, and even better when paired with -1 counters.
Talisman of Indulgence is a fantastic mana rock in these colors.
And finally, no black deck focussed on killing creatures should leave home without Toxic Deluge. I know it doesn't put -1 counters or use damage, but it draws for each preexisting -1 counter and can get you out of a bind pretty easily.
I hope that helps! I need to write a proper description for my version of the deck. Also, what's worked well for you that I'm excluding from my list? :)
2 weeks ago
The deck has been revamped, it runs well now. The only thing I feel is missing is good old Sudden Spoiling. It's always been a lifesaver for me in every other deck I have it in, but I just don't see what I could take out at this point.
3 weeks ago
You should considering adding more Instants so you can trigger Vial Smasher on your opponents turns. That is kind of his real power. - Putrefy- Beast Within- Chaos Warp- Abrupt Decay- Worldly Tutor- Vampiric Tutor- Rakdos Charm This card is stupid good in almost any game of EDH- Murder- Sudden Spoiling
just to name a few that would be decent. Removal is always good, along with tutors. I cannot highlight Rakdos Charm enough. In a game of EDH, I usually find that someone is either playing lots of creatures or playing a GY focused deck and the charm hoses both of those strategies. It is entirely possible to 1 shot people with the charm when people go for a kiki-jiki combo.
1 month ago
Athraithe No. You were talking about responding to Life's Legacy after it has been cast and is on the stack. I'm talking about using Ramos's mana ability as part of the casting process for Life's Legacy.
Activating mana abilities during the casting process of a spell is an entirely different game process than responding to that spell while it's on the stack (i.e. you don't have priority), and it can lead to very different outcomes. For example, this is why Lion's Eye Diamond stipulates that you need to activate it as an instant, or how you're able to sac Mindslicer to Ashnod's Altar as part of the payment of Sudden Spoiling and force everyone to discard their hands with Split Second in effect.
It turns out that it has the same outcome in this case, but I thought it best to tell Lilbrudder that, since you didn't actually answer his question with your response.
1 month ago
1 month ago
Yes this works exactly how you explained it. It seems like you understand already how this works but you were hoping it doesn't lol
If you try to answer (removal/damage/whatever) your opponent placing a -1/-1 counter on the Druid, then yes, your opponent can respond to your attempt to disrupt the combo by simply using the ability again. They will get whatever amount of mana they want, and creatures may die once your answer resolves, but they'll still have the mana.
You could try Sudden Death or Sudden Shock to kill the Druid, or you could even disrupt the combo for a turn by using Sudden Spoiling or Wipe Away, so anything with Split Second would help disrupt it, but in the absence of this, they would get the mana yes. If they can't use the mana immediately with a permanent on the battlefield and if they aren't holding an instant that would use it, Glorious End will help.
But yes, it is a very difficult-to-disrupt combo.