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Cremate Discussion

Neotrup on shroud v angelic renewal

1 month ago

Well, first off, your removal spell appears to be targeted, so you can't use it on a creature you've given shroud. Secondly, if a creature with shroud dies, Angelic Renewal still triggers (it's not activated) and can return that card to the battlefield. Importantly Angelic Renewal doesn't target. It does require sacrificing on resolution, so if you destroy it in response to it's trigger, it won't be on the battlefield, so it can't be sacrificed. If you exile the creature from the graveyard in response to it's trigger, with something like Cremate, it won't be able to be returned, but your opponent can still choose not to sacrifice Angelic Renewal, so they could still use it on the next creature that dies.

Entrei on Gro-bots (Developing competitive)

2 months ago

@APPLE01DOJ cremate is actually in there with purpose of being a cantrip. I wanted one that was instant speed, and 1 mana. Cremate was my favorite option, with 1 mana draw and exile something of choice from yard really appealing to me

darleen on

2 months ago

Suggestions for your mana base:

Remove: Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Warped Landscape, and Mind Stone. Add: Myriad Landscape, Cabal Coffers, High Market, and Charcoal Diamond.

Tower of Calamities depends a lot of mana to destroy only one creature. Try Black Market in its place.

Bad Moon, Eternal Thirst, and Lashwrithe are fine cards but your creatures are already so huge, I don't think you need them. I would just add more ramp instead: Ashnod's Altar (also serves as a sacrifice outlet), Caged Sun, and Expedition Map (to find Cabal Coffers).

34 lands is simply too few in my opinion so think about cutting Ascendant Evincar, Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder, Nightmare, and Shadowborn Demon for 4 Swamps.

Suggestions for draw and card advantage:

It seems like a great win condition is the interaction between your Commander and Maralen of the Mornsong so I recommend more tutor and dark spells to get the combo out. Maybe switch out: Cremate, Sanguine Bond, Unholy Hunger, Abyssal Persecutor, Visions of Brutality, and Vile Requiem for Night's Whisper, Dark Petition, Behold the Beyond, Ambition's Cost, Beseech the Queen and Viscera Seer.

Suggestions for removal spells:

Several of your removal spells cost alot of mana. To the Slaughter, Reach of Shadows, In Garruk's Wake, Dregs of Sorrow, and Annihilate could be replaced with Diabolic Edict, Hero's Downfall, Killing Wave, Malicious Affliction, and Grave Pact.

SirSgtCire on I Don't Think So!

3 months ago

Just looking at this decklist brings me back. Probably should still remove the Cremates like I said I would all those years ago. hmmm...

leon_bulminot on milling all day

5 months ago

Poseidon847 I don't plan to add any allies to this deck but!!! I am planning on a five color allies EDH deck and I definitely would like him...much appreciated.

Tlipoch, the low cost was for CMC but I also have been waiting for Glimpse the Unthinkable to do a below 20$ drop on TCG. Missed out on the huge price flop a while back. And if it were EDH or another format, I'd agree on Mind Funeral but it's a great way to mana starve an opponent early on. Most Tier 1-3 decks I see only run about 22-26 ish mana and if I chain two of them, back to back turns, I drain 8 much needed mana by turn 4 and hopefully have an Archive Trap or two stocked in hand, waiting for them to crack a search land or force them to be afraid of searching their deck while being mana starved.

My only issue with Visions of Beyond is when I get my mini-mill cards or no Archive Trap in an opening hand. I like 2-3 mana with mini-mills because I can disrupt early scry. I may however use Mind Sculpt to swap out Memory Sluice. Let's me mill and keep my creatures up for blocking if my Banks are all out or I could replace it with Visions and side board the other two Visions for extra draw if I need it. I do like the Ravenous Trap in place of is always good lol

As for Oboro...BMpatrol and Tlpoch...I feel ashamed I neglected it. I forgot about that little gem and Hedron. I did consider some counter spells that milled but I like the Deprive way with Hedron.

I promise, once I get my playset, Glimpse will make it's way in. Same with Oboro. Just need to get three more. I've been itching for Glimpse anyway as I have plans for a UB, EDH. Just waiting on the refund check so I can not only finish this deck but replenish after X-mas..

BMpatrol, see I totally pondered Hub but I was hesitant on it, mostly because if I put those in there and ran into someone who liked to burn creatures, I'd have to sideboard basic mana. That's why I have Theorist being considered and he might even replace Ashiok on the side board. I'd get 3 energy counters which would let me mill and scry in the same turn. I might make an energy counter variant though on here as a test bed.

I do like Scribe though...if anything, he'll replace Wisps on the side board or probably replace two Minister's and two Banks...

The artifacts I intentionally avoided though, because of the recent sets revival of artifact hate. And if you checked my EDH decks, you'll see I adore and survive on them.

This deck is also made of cards I physically have ATM. I will be making the updated version though for some testing. Just hoping to do well and avoid uber-burn or control decks. It's just a game of who had the better hand then. Mill decks help me though lol Dream Twist is a nasty surprise for them.

Still keeping this up for help until I get Oboro and the rest of the replacements inserted.

Tlipoch on milling all day

5 months ago

Awh..."Low cost" in terms of CC or money?


I don't like Mind Funeral: you can mill 30 cards as only 4 cards :/

I suggest Glimpse the Unthinkable (budget version Mind Sculpt) : things that have a secure mill-rate

If you need some substitute for Thought Scour ...Visions of Beyond is the mill-version of Ancestral Recall you need this!

And for your goal of 3 cards every turn, I think that Oboro, Palace in the Clouds can be your best friend ;)

(I' a mill player too ;) )

For sideboard Instead of Cremate i would put Ravenous Trap

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