Neheb, the Eternal

Neheb, the Eternal

Legendary Creature — Zombie Minotaur

Afflict 3 (Whenever this creature becomes blocked, defending player loses 3 life.)

At the beginning of your postcombat main phase, add to your mana pool for each 1 life your opponents have lost this turn.

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Hour of Devastation (HOU) Mythic Rare
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Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Highlander Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Pioneer Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Frontier Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Neheb, the Eternal occurrence in decks from the last year

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.03%

Red: 0.5%

Rakdos: 0.41%

Neheb, the Eternal Discussion

HELLcaster19 on Krenko's Goblin Meat Market

17 hours ago

WarpedZerghead Im not sure what your budget is (noticed that you mentioned budget in your comment) but two cards that could be worth adding are:

Gamble just because it serves as a tutor for Red.

Neheb, the Eternal It isn't a Goblin, but it has the potential to go infinite with your Aggravated Assault :)

+1

DespairFaction on Combat as a Resource (Aurelia Warleader)

6 days ago

Hey its Commander Replay. I played about 7 games with the deck between your version and mine so ill share my analysis of everything. Ill start with the more general stuff, and then ill dig into card specifics.

First off the hate bear plan worked great against U/x combo decks. Had their combo lines covered early and easily. On the other hand I faced blood pod several times and that seems to be a pretty bad matchup. They have a ton of answers, and with Elesh Norn at the top end its just destroys this deck. It felt like they are doing the same thing but just way better cause of Gaea's cradle and green black tutors so that wasnt amazing. I had a chance to beat it in one game but missed some land drops and drew all the swords with the giant in play, and null rod down. Had i not drawn sinew and steel could have shot the null rod, reequipped jitte, and killed the kataki that followed. I also assume that any deck that is good against blood pod, will also be good against this list. Pyroclasm is real scary.

So the single biggest problem with this deck right now, and the single biggest opportunity for improvement is mana production. You are running very little fast mana and the land count was super low. This list was running 29 and your updated on moxfield was running 30. Both conceptually and in practice, this deck isn't going to win the game on 4 mana...its not flash hulk or consultation. So i think its begging for more lands. I was able to get my list to 31 lands but honestly I think 33 or 34 or would better. Again, this list isn't winning with 3 lands.

Following the land problem there is also not enough fast mana, and things to do with 1 mana. I noticed I was getting log jammed with 2 and 3 drops and was giving away a lot of precious time. And this sort of plays into mana curve issues as well, definitely need to trim back on the 4 drops. I was able to get down to 10, and as I mentioned Id still like to go lower.

So in short the curve was high, and the deck is mana hungry.

Two other smaller problems that I didn't elect to fix since they are matchup specific, but can be solved with a few card changes. Not a lot of removal for creatures. Again, soft to blood pod. Also no main deck pyroblast, REB and Angel's grace type stuff to prevent losing on the spot. Would like to see some answers main deck.

So here are the changes I made. I won't go through all the cuts, but ill mention the big ones. A few things were cut simply for deck space so I won't worry about those.

Out:

  • Helm of the host - deck isn't producing enough mana to get anywhere close to equipping this. Plus a huge blow out to instant speed interaction.
  • Stonehewer looks like the only possible path to victory with this.
  • Ruination - a worse armageddon. switch to static orb. its more abuseable.
  • Decree of Annhilation - high cost. but i think it could return due its hard to counter nature. went with static orb in place. the orb effects are more abusable IMO.
  • Elspeth - not enough impact at 4
  • Karn - bad card draw, slow. would rather just pay 1 to get some extra lands.
  • Aurelia Exemplar - I cut this one, but it might be worth brining back. I may have cut too much damage from the deck.
  • Angel of Jubilition - lot of good abilities, cut for deck slots. might return.
  • coalition relic - turn this into fast mana.
  • thrill of possibility - we can better than this.
  • faithless looting - I'm not a huge fan, but i know people like it.
  • glorybringer - this one may need to come back with better mana production. more damage and creature removal.

Must Adds: Ok here are the cards that I think are must adds for the deck to compete in the competitive space. - Land Tax - find your lands. card advantage.

  • Tithe - find your lands. card advantage

  • Springleaf Drum - this is fast mana in a deck like this.

  • Chrome Mox fast mana, but card advantage problem. be sure to balance with draw.

  • Curse of Opulence - more turn 1 plays and fast mana.

  • Feast and Famine - bring this in from the Sb, its the best sword by a large margin. it also opens up combos with aggravated assault, and neheb.

  • Mox Diamond - if you have the $$, MTGO, or proxies legal.

  • Sword of the Animist - the ramp is very good, and the +1/+1 is relevant.

  • Smothering Tithe - broken cards are broken.

Other fast mana worth considering:

Card advantage tricks:

I still need to do some work in this area. Tectonic Giant needs more testing, but could consider Prophetic Flamespeaker instead. Its great with swords and you get both cards as opposed to always exiling one. no damage mode tho.

Win Conditions and Lock outs:

So this is where my deck was maybe a little thin, and Ill need to test a bit.

  • As mentioned I took Helm out because I just don't think its ever going to happen on the current mana production (but maybe if we figure out some mana tricks) so instead I went for Neheb, the Eternal Sword of Feast and Famine and Aggravated Assault. This is a favorite of mine, all 3 pieces are great on their own and game winning when together.

  • Winota, Joiner of Forces ridiculous with aurelia. Free creatures.

  • Winter Orb and Static Orb with Blinkmoth Well ghirapur aethergrid Sword of Feast and Famine and either Neheb. One sided mana production. Use Goblin Engineer to find any of the artifact pieces of the this combo, as well as sword recursion or shenanigans with the orbs.

  • Planar Chaos this is pet lock piece that I've been testing out. Haven't resolved it yet, but i can't imagine anyone is going to cast much into it.

  • Ive been strongly considering Possibility Storm with all of the rule of law type effects as an additional source of lock. You can still cast your commander, and generally that should win the game.

  • Helm of Possession is a fun trick I've used in some decks. good against decks where they really need their commander.

Miscellaneous Thoughts:

Given the absurd mana hunger of this deck I realized a massive difference in games with dockside extortionist and games without. That led me to thinking about more ways to get dockside extortionist. There are the 2 main recruiters, but I think goblin recruiter is worth looking at because you can put dockside on top, then kiki-jiki right beneath and copy it the following turn or anything else that might make sense (plus aurelia's untap)

testing out Crovax, Ascendant Hero this is to hose blood pod and green mana dorks. basically a second elesh norn. If the deck gets good at locking stuff or producing crazy mana, could look at Thalia's Lancers into Elesh Norn.

All of the 4 drops in my list require significant testing, feel free to cut any of them.

You should add Mikokoro to the main deck. Its solid.

Adriana, Captain of the Guard warrants testing. again for blood pod and other green decks...makes your team huge.

If mana production is good enough to warrant the return of Helm, also add Godo, Bandit Warlord for the additional tutoring and redundancy. Hammer of Nazahn is also pretty real. Could also consider cloud shift and ephemerate as protection and blink to further this combo.

Reanimation is needed. Could be a lot of things. Reveillark, Sword of Light and Shadow that one ajani, and Sevinne's Reclamation all come to mind.

Ashen0ne on All That Remain

1 week ago

Here’s some decent pieces to both help with the war theme and make life difficult for your enemies.

Fumiko the Lowblood because samurai

Warmonger Hellkite makes creatures attack and can be pumped

Incite RebellionandDisrupt Decorum both have that sort of subterfuge, disrupt enemy lines feel to me.

Grand Melee because open war

Goblin Diplomats because diplomacy is needed in every war

Prowler's Helm like a spy slipping through their defenses.

Outpost Siege card advantage and siege is referenced.

Blackblade Reforged and Strata Scythe can both make varchild big after a bit of development. More survivors

Grenzo, Havoc Razor

Paragon of Fierce Defiance

Godo, Bandit Warlord and while you’re at it you could add Helm of the Host as an easy win

Torbran, Thane of Red Fell

Bloodsworn Steward

Archetype of Aggression

Dockside Extortionist because there is always people like that in war

Neheb, the Eternal is likely worth a spot.

Oni of Wild Places may not necessarily fit the theme but repeatedly bouncing varchild has its advantages

Signal Pest

Iron Myr for mana

Legion Warboss

Angrath's Marauders

Downhill Charge seems pretty good.

Fatal Frenzy and Mercadia's Downfall feel decent too.

Seize the Day is very war themed to me.

By Force implies hostilities

Burn at the Stake might be a big kill card after you’ve taken a bunch of survivors. 3 times the amount you tap gets huge quick.

World at War

Mizzium Mortars

Crawlspace so you can bottleneck their armies like Sparta did against the Persians lol.

Voyager Staff to remove varchild maybe?

That’s what stood out most to me with a quick glance through EDHRec. I’ll keep brainstorming for ya though!

SteelSentry on What commander should I build?

1 month ago

I second , you don't have any graveyard decks listed here which is always a popular archetype. That also gives you the option to branch out into Abzan or Jund, which are very powerful color combinations in EDH.

As for Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion, have you tried swapping the commander? There are a few options to stay in Mono- and possibly keep a large part of the deck. I have a deck that has had several different iterations with different generals. Currently, I run Neheb, the Eternal, which has been the more resilient of the two Nehebs in my experience, and isn't dependent on attacking to function. If you wanted to keep any graveyard synergies, you could try Feldon of the Third Path reanimator, and if you had artifact themes you could try Daretti, Scrap Savant for a more Johnny build or Bosh, Iron Golem for a more Timmy build.

Joe_Ken_ on Burn

1 month ago

I would up the land count to 36 to ensure you can hit some of your later land drops.

There are a few more large burn spells that I think could be better for the deck like Jaya's Immolating Inferno , Fall of the Titans and Comet Storm

Cards like Price of Progress and Acidic Soil are also really great for mono red burn decks.

Satyr Firedancer , Electrostatic Field and Guttersnipe would also be really good for this burn deck.

Here is my Neheb, the Eternal burn mixed with big mana creatures deck. I need to do some updates to it, but it’s mostly up to date. Neheb Burn and Turn

Caerwyn on Fires of Invention and Commander ...

1 month ago

In the future, please use the Rules Q&A section of this site if you have questions about rules, cards, or card interactions. That section has some added functionality, including the ability to "Mark as Answer" a response to show your question has been resolved. I have gone ahead and moved this for you.


To answer your question, Fires of Invention will not allow you to offset the commander tax.

The costs for casting a spell can generally be divided into a few different categories. The relevant categories for your question are "mana costs" and "additional costs".

A spell's mana cost is the cost listed on the spell. So, let's say your commander is Neheb, the Eternal. Neheb's mana cost is .

The Commander Tax is an additional cost (Rule 903.8). Additional costs are, as their name implies, something in addition to the regular mana cost.

Take a look at Fires of Invention's wording - it says you can cast them "without paying their mana costs." So, for your Neheb, you do not have to pay , but you will have to pay any additional costs, such as the Commander Tax.

Here's the ruling from Fires of Invention's Gatherer page that is on-point:

  • If you cast a card “without paying its mana cost,” you can’t choose to cast it for any alternative costs. You can, however, pay additional costs. If the card has any mandatory additional costs (such as that of Fling), you must pay those to cast the card.

Joe_Ken_ on Mother of Dragons

2 months ago

Burnished Hart has been a good creature in my Boros decks to get a little bit of ramp.

I’d work on getting Smothering Tithe into the main board as soon as you can since if it’s not answered then it will net you a lot of mana.

I’d swap maybe Gilded Lotus for Worn Powerstone since it can come in a lot earlier and from my experience Lotus is often blown up a lot.

Neheb, the Eternal is a really good creature that can help you get a lot of mana if he sticks around and you are swinging in with your dragons.

Dowsing Dagger  Flip may be a nice equipment to slot in since you can often get through with a flying creature to get it to flip.

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