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: Add to your mana pool.
, , Pay 1 life: Put a 1/1 white and black Human Cleric creature token onto the battlefield.
, , Sacrifice five creatures: Transform Westvale Abbey, then untap it.
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Westvale Abbey Discussion
12 hours ago
That is a really interesting idea. Are you adding the new or old Liliana? Personally, my reasoning for not including either is as follows:
Liliana, the Last Hope is a great card in most decks. For us, we don't care about delirium, and her +1 is underpowered in a world of vehicles and planeswalkers. We are already weak to fliers, so often times, Liliana will just get whacked by Heart of Kiran the turn she comes out.
liliana, death's majesty is a fun card I want to try out in a re-animator deck, however, for us, paying 5 mana to bring back something we already can do with Relentless Dead seems meh. Plus, by the time we get to 5 mana, we should be close to winning already or dumping two or more zombies to fuel our Diregraf Colossus or Wayward Servant
I hope it works for you though, and please let me know!
Always Watching is a card I think is really cool. It'd be extremely powerful in this kind of deck, especially when we are doing broken stuff with our synergy. If I were you, I'd be careful about cutting your white sources of mana and then adding a card. Also, I am already running only 22 lands, and our average cmc is exactly 2. With the 5 mana planeswalker, you are taking a huge risk by going to 20 lands. Remember, you can always discard your extra lands to Cryptbreaker, and hitting Liliana's Mastery on time feels broken. If you are considering cuts, be careful about taking too much away from your mana. My biggest advice to you would be to run Westvale Abbey Flip. It is an alternate win that comes out of nowhere and breaks up a board stall. When I test this deck, if I draw into Westvale, it consistently flips, and I almost always win. free win cards should be included.
Good luck with your build, and thank you for the +1!
4 days ago
If its commander that you are wanting to build this in all cards must be the same colour identity as your commander and being B/U/G it means you would not be able to use Ezuri, Claw of Progress as his identity is U/G. You either need to find a new B/U/G commander or remove the black cards. (Also a side note that may be helpful as I have seen rather experienced people make the mistake, colour identity is strange as it applies to both sides eg Westvale Abbey Flip has black colour identity due to the black demon on the transform as well as activated abilities eg Tasigur, the Golden Fang is B/U/G due to the U/G activated ability.) Hope this is useful.
5 days ago
Epochalyptik has the right of it.
The distinction can be seen in the difference between Dark Depths and Westvale Abbey Flip. The former sacrifices the land then places a token onto the field. The latter actually becomes the creature. The creature has haste, but it only makes a difference if you dropped the land and sacrificed the 5 creatures to transform it on that same turn.
5 days ago
1 week ago
Pay 5: Sacrifce five Snake/Insect creatures.
However you do it, a few tokens and one casted creature you're almost always trading up for a better board state with a 9/7 that's Indestructible and better than any Amonkhet God.
1 week ago
I've been debating that for a while and honestly Liliana, the Last Hope works better i find. In all honesty if Westvale Abbey Flip wasn't a land it wouldn't be in here and that's the reason why new Liliana isn't on turn 5 i generally want to be close to ending the game and where as her first ability is nice its not getting 2-4 more ZAMBIES out which is what i want to be doing on turn 5. Plus I'm generally trying to keep everything 3cmc or lower that's been my rule of thumb with aggro unless its a 4-5 cmc that literally ends the game that turn.