Back:Ormendahl, Profane Prince Flip
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: Add to your mana pool.
, , Pay 1 life: Put a 1/1 white and black Human Cleric creature token onto the battlefield.
, , Sacrifice five creatures: Transform Westvale Abbey, then untap it.
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Westvale Abbey Discussion
1 day ago
2 days ago
I played a similar list today at Gameday (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/30-01-17-uw-spirits/)
Censor wasn't that good for me. If you are not on the play, it's always cycled.
Thraben Inspector This is the really big question. I don't like Thraben anymore since the ban of Smuggler, but there is no replacement for it (I play Mausoleum Wanderer but it's not that good). I don't like Thraben either because at best it is dealing 1 dmg, won't impact anything against marvel, RG trample creatures, or control's attrition games.
I would advise to try out Dusk / Dawn! A great card in this archetype, the only card that justifies to keep playing it in my opinion!
2 days ago
zekhet: Okay so Harsh Mentor is a card I'm... Really not too sure of myself. He's extremely situational and to be honest I think as far as Aetherworks Marvel decks go, Manglehorn is just the better card even though it's higher CMC. And, yes, the activations need to be from an artifact, creature or land on the battlefield. So things like Scrapheap Scrounger or zombies/embalming are happening from the graveyard and dodge the Mentor's hate. However things on the battlefield will be triggering Mentor, here are a few examples:
- Vehicles like Heart of Kiran, any time you crew, take Mentor damage
- Pretty much any Tap abilities that don't produce mana, this includes Aetherworks Marvel's tap ability to do it's free spell.
- Honestly everything with a colon like Cost:Effect
There's a crap load of those types of effects. And since I'm on the subject, here's a quick look at the Top 8 Decklist and what cards Harsh Mentor will trigger on.... For both our benefit xD
- Cryptbreaker - Both abilities
- Shambling Vent - Don't forget these lands that can turn into creatures, that's a trigger for Mentor as well as Evolving Wilds
- Lord of the Accursed
- Westvale Abbey Flip - not super effective against but hey every bit counts
- Shielded Aether Thief - tap ability
- Whirler Virtuoso - SUPER important here! They'll think twice before losing 2 life to make a 1/1 thopter.
- Woodweaver's Puzzleknot - now only gains them 1 life when they crack it from the battlefield
- Aetherworks Marvel - now costs 2 more life to spin! Wish it triggered that first ability though :(
- Lumbering Falls - Sneaky lands
- GB Energy
- Walking Ballista - here's where Harsh Mentor is probably best, aside from his ETB ability, the other two here are triggers for Mentor
- Longtusk Cub as well as our very own Bristling Hydra and Electrostatic Pummelers are actually triggers for Mentor. In a mirror matchup, you will want to bring Mentor in to punish those activations.
- Hissing Quagmire - Sneaky lands again
- I mentioned it already but, again, Heart of Kiran and crewing any vehicles is a trigger.
Okay, think that should cover most of the big meta things. It was actually really helpful for myself to type that list up because I totally DIDN'T sideboard Harsh Mentor the 4c energy deck I played against tonight who had 4x Longtusk Cubs and that would've been the perfect answer.. All well. Now we're both prepared xD
2 days ago
After playing FNM I made changes to the manabase. The deck seem a bit slower then it could be because of come into play tapped lands and color mana.
4 days ago
99% of the time westvale will be useless. but that 1% time it isnt ul be grateful youv had it. but id only recommend it IF and only IF your landbase can handle it without much issue.
yeah i noticed that Eldrazi Displacer could do that but didnt have much opportunity to try it out sadly. would be great vs UB faeries tho.
im no expert on your colors but maybe try Lone Missionary as a 2 drop? it can swing (even just for 2) and heal is good against burn matchups or when you have to tank some damage while ramp goes bad.
Sun Titan or Primeval Titan have nice synergy with the deck if you can get them. sun revives nice stuff ( combos really nice with Fiend Hunter if ever you place them back. and Primeval Titan would work with Westvale Abbey Flip as you get to tutor it and sa your rampers when you have enough lands because of it. hmmm that actually makes me want to try that out ahahaha
4 days ago
(played all games without sideboarding either decks)
SCORE: 3 | 4 COMMENTS | 97 VIEWS
drew my Phyrexian Obliterator in response though and dragged the game out a bit. im not sure if my friend wouldve played the same way as you wouldve but he made the right call letting me sac your stuff to rid obliterator and let Eternal Witness save the day. my deck lost.
Game 3: an early Sagu Mauler was beating me down and i couldnt use my Gatekeeper of Malakir to get it sac'd because of the freaking birds, myLiliana, Heretical Healer Flipwith a lashwrithe traded blows to keep me alive though untill i got to turn it into the planeswalker side and win via revive Sidisi, Undead Vizier to get a second Phyrexian Obliterator (the first one got exiled) Akroma, Angel of Fury WAS on the field to trade with obliterator but i had a lucky Dismember to make her a 1/1 for trample win VERY CLOSE GAME that went quite a bunch of turns.
game 5:Thought-Knot Seer comes out super early and gets flashed back by Restoration Angel asap. my hand gets crippled and i proceed to lose the game with nothing but my cant block for shit Bloodghasts out to watch.
The deck is actually pretty good,with a little luck in the opening hand it rolls really strong. but the thing i noticed is that it does get disrupted quite easily. Akroma, Angel of Fury doesnt seem like the strongest card for its value maybe? sure it hits like a truck and has semi protection but white and blue arent the scariest colors when it comes to killing beaters. it does dodge Dismember tho so thats something.
Wall of Omens im iffy about. sure when flickered you get to draw even more but its only a 0/4 though. is it really worth the slot?
iv been playing with Westvale Abbey Flip in my deck, its not the strongest card nor do you flip it very often (rarely actually) but it does provide an additional win con lategame when you can afford to sac the Birds of Paradise and whatnot.
you removed Stonehorn Dignitary which i can see why, but it does somewhat improve the aggro matchup in my opinion, maybe secret sideboard tech?
anyway, thats all i have man. thanks for sharing your decklist on my post its a great deck and hella fun to play. best of luck