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5 days ago
5 days ago
In terms of mana base, is there a reason you're playing so many Plains? Since your deck isn't biased towards white, you could balance out the basic lands unless you plan to run Emeria Shepherd. You're also missing Temple of Triumph. Clifftop Retreat, Isolated Chapel, and Woodland Cemetery would also be helpful to complete the cycle. Take out Boros Garrison and Rakdos Guildgate. You could cut Ash Barrens since you don't need colorless mana. Rampant Growth would be a better replacement.
Archangel of Thune grows all your creatures by a lot with Ikra's ability. You could try Goldnight Castigator for a flying high toughness creature. The new Evra, Halcyon Witness is pretty powerful if you're gaining lots of life. Malignus can be pretty big too.
I'm not sure Zacama synergizes that much with your gameplan considering the mana cost. If you want big dinosaurs, Zetalpa, Primal Dawn would probably be good for this deck. Maybe Verdant Sun's Avatar.
Well of Lost Dreams seems mana-heavy for card draw. Rishkar's Expertise might not be very reliable with your creatures. You could try Tymna the Weaver, Promise of Power, Soul of the Harvest, Kothophed, Soul Hoarder, Baleful Force. Necropotence of course would be amazing since you're gaining so much life.
You might as well add in Exquisite Blood for more lifegain and the potential combo with Sanguine Bond. You could cut Solemnity, Erebos, Vizier of the Menagerie, Deathrite Shaman, and Blind Obedience.
1 week ago
MelonGator I don't think a board wipe fits well in the main b/c of the nombo with Spell Queller and Tidehollow Sculler, when I build the side I'll probably have 1-2 Supreme Verdict and Languish (I love how it misses my delve creatures)
I plan on making the side after I buy the list in paper (I'm about 50% done) and take it to my local LGS to check out my meta
1 week ago
Its honestly a really tight brew.... black has access to token hate cards like Languish and Illness in the Ranks and the only things i can think of are universal SB tech cards like Torpor Orb, Surgical Extraction, Jester's Cap, Glaring Spotlight.... but its all hingeing on what your playgroup is like.
2 weeks ago
Hi there, i'll share all the knowledge i've gathered after playing discard decks for more than 5 years (i've built monoblack creatureless discard, monoblack creature discard, UB discard, RB discard, Grixis discard, specter discard, etc.).
The first i see here is that you don't have anything to deal with the board, so you'll more than probably die to anything that hits the board, even a simple 3/1 two-drop. Your deck relies too much on damaging your opponent through giving him many cards and forcing him to discard not that many; the only card in your deck that punishes him this way is Liliana's Caress and that's it, it's not reliable. You also run two copies of Painful Quandary which it's ideal mechanics are to punish your opponent for having no hand, but since you are forcing him to draw so many cards, he'll always have the option to discard while playing a spell (only taking 2 damage from Liliana's Caress and only if you have the enchant on the battlefield).
You have many cards that allow you or your opponent to draw and discard cards, but you only have Alms of the Vein to exploit this mechanic, so get rid of those or stick in more madness cards.
The description says "the goal of this deck is to get your opponent as low as possible", but you can't do that quickly by relying only on 4 copies of Liliana's Caress while you'll be recieving lot's of threats and hits. Master of the Feast will for sure get destroyed by any of the thousands removal spells you'll force your opponent to draw, so it won't be dealing too much damage if any.
Let's work on the solution. First of all, you need your deck to have more consistant way to deal damage and you also need to get rid of your opponent's threats until you've reached mid-late game and you can develop your winning mechanics.
Since you have almost no creature, let's take advantage of that so that you can trade one card of yours for many cards of your opponent. Good cards to do this, depending on the money you want to spend are, for example, Drown in Sorrow , Yahenni's Expertise , Languish and Damnation.
You also need to be faster or at least to be able to delay your opponent's strategy. A way of doing this is by disrupting his early moves to wreck his plan. Cards like Inquisition of Kozilek , Thoughtseize , Duress and Despise excell at doing so.
To strenghten the draw and discard engine you have many cards at your disposal. I don't know if you want to keep the deck in the modern format or to build a casual free of legal restriction deck, so I'll recommend a variety of cards like Chains of Mephistopheles , Probe , Wheel and Deal , Ill-Gotten Gains , Urza's Guilt , Anvil of Bogardan , Whispering Madness , Dark Deal , Font of Mythos , Forced Fruition , Geier Reach Sanitarium , Memory Jar and Temple Bell.
You need more cards than Liliana's Caress to punish your opponent for discarding or drawing cards. All of these are good for the task, suit yourself: Underworld Dreams , Psychosis Crawler , Fate Unraveler , Waste Not , Megrim and Words of Waste.
Since you and your opponent will be drawing lots of cards, you will be able to discard cards too or abuse your card-drawing. This does not only work well for madness, but also with delve, retrace and other cards. Consider some of these: Chain of Smog , Last Rites , Big Game Hunter , Raven's Crime , Syphon Life , Cunning Lethemancer , Necrogen Mists , Psychotic Haze , Call to the Netherworld , Dark Withering , Gibbering Descent and also Sphinx's Tutelage.
You'll be forcing your opponent to draw many many cards, so you'll need cards that make him discard more than one to win the trade. Consistant massive discard cards are for example this ones: Brink of Madness , Mindstab , Mind Twist , Mind Shatter or Delirium Skeins.
Which ones and how many
Pick the ones you like the most according to their mana costs and their price. Also consider the ammount of black mana symbols in their cost, because you'll be playing a two colors deck.
Try to keep it as balanced as you can in terms of cards functions. Maybe 30% draw/discard engine - 30% draw/discard punishment - 20% massive discard - 10% 1drops quality discard - 10% board whipe. You'll have to test and adjust the numbers.
I know most of those cards are black, but you can keep it UB if you want to. Best version I've made of this strategy was using Grixis (Blue Black and Red) because there's a lot of red cards that force both players to discard and draw like Burning Inquiry and Reforge the Soul for example. Grixis also enables the use of Nekusar, the Mindrazer , Blightning , Sedraxis Specter , Blazing Specter and Dack Fayden.
I hope it's helpful! Best wishes!
2 weeks ago
I'd recommend adding a few of the following: Farseek, Rampant Growth, Nature's Lore, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Skyshroud Claim, Explosive Vegetation, and Golgari Signet. Depending on the speed of your meta, you should look to hit 8 mana by turn 8 latest. You might also want to replace Decree of Pain with either something cheaper like Languish or Crux of Fate or something one-sided like Kindred Dominance or In Garruk's Wake.
3 weeks ago
If your trying to win by mill, Mind Funeral and Tome Scour both work very well.
If you can afford it Thoughtseize and Surgical Extraction work well, if not you can go with Extirpate and Duress
Hedron Crab is another good creature, and Languish might work as well.
1 month ago
Subtraction; Wild Ricochet
Wild Ricochet tends to just sit in the hand and Languish is another way to keep your opponents creature count to a minimum.