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Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
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Commander: Rule 0 Legal
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Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Oldschool 93/94 Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

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trippy_mcfly on Cumly Cube

1 month ago

Introducing Cumly Cube 1.3! Two years ago, Cumly Cube was updated to Cumly Cube 1.2, creating a balanced cube and wonderful play experience for all involved. Despite these changes, there remained some minor flaws in the card pool. I am now pleased to announce that, after extensive research and design, Cumly Cube has reached a final form. No card is too powerful. No card is too weak. Synergy is abundant. Both the draft and play experiences are dynamic, exciting, and new. There will be no more major updates to Cumly Cube 1.

120 cards have been removed, and 120 cards have been added. Here are the changes, provided with brief justifications:

REMOVED:

ARTIFACT

  1. Everflowing Chalice: mana rocks should cost 3 or have a drawback
  2. Glass of the Guildpact: too weak
  3. Heraldic Banner: encouraged mono-colored decks
  4. Illuminated Folio: too weak
  5. Jayemdae Tome: too weak
  6. Loreseeker's Stone: too weak
  7. Mind Stone: mana rocks should cost 3 or have a drawback
  8. Null Rod: too much of a hate card
  9. Pithing Needle: too powerful with Urza's Saga
  10. Pyromancer's Goggles: too narrow
  11. Retrofitter Foundry: too powerful with Urza's Saga

CREATURE

  1. Bomat Courier: too powerful against slow starts
  2. Deathpact Angel: creates a Cleric token, not a supported creature type
  3. Dimir Cutpurse: too powerful
  4. Elves of Deep Shadow: too obvious of a choice as a cumly
  5. Golos, Tireless Pilgrim: too powerful
  6. Hostage Taker: too powerful
  7. Kalamax, the Stormsire: too powerful
  8. Loyal Retainers: too obvious of a choice as a cumly
  9. Monastery Mentor: too powerful
  10. Moonveil Dragon: pumping the team makes for anticlimactic endings
  11. Murktide Regent: we’ve seen enough of this card already in other formats
  12. Ornithopter of Paradise: too obvious of a choice as a cumly
  13. Phantom Tiger: too weak
  14. Risen Reef: too powerful
  15. Shadrix Silverquill: creates Inkling tokens, not a supported creature type
  16. Tatyova, Benthic Druid: too powerful
  17. Thraben Inspector: we’ve seen enough of this card already in other formats
  18. Toxrill, the Corrosive: creates Slug tokens, not a supported creature type

ENCHANTMENT

  1. Alpha Authority: hexproof makes for less interesting games
  2. Favorable Winds: too weak
  3. Offspring's Revenge: too narrow
  4. Pernicious Deed: too powerful of a board wipe
  5. Rally the Ranks: too weak
  6. Song of Freyalise: too typical a card for green

LAND (types are grouped together in this list)

  1. Tolarian Academy: too powerful
  2. Arid Mesa: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  3. Bloodstained Mire: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  4. Flooded Strand: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  5. Marsh Flats: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  6. Misty Rainforest: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  7. Polluted Delta: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  8. Scalding Tarn: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  9. Verdant Catacombs: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  10. Windswept Heath: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  11. Wooded Foothills: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  12. Badlands: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  13. Bayou: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  14. Plateau: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  15. Savannah: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  16. Scrubland: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  17. Taiga: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  18. Tropical Island: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  19. Tundra: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  20. Underground Sea: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  21. Volcanic Island: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  22. Hissing Quagmire: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
  23. Lavaclaw Reaches: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
  24. Lumbering Falls: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
  25. Shambling Vent: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
  26. Needle Spires: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
  27. Raging Ravine: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
  28. Stirring Wildwood: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
  29. Wandering Fumarole: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting

INSTANT

  1. Abnormal Endurance: too typical a card for black
  2. Aerial Predation: too narrow
  3. Alchemist's Gift: too weak
  4. Arbor Armament: too weak
  5. Autumn's Veil: too narrow
  6. Betrayal of Flesh: too weak
  7. Bladebrand: too typical a card for black
  8. Brainstorm: we’ve seen enough of this card already in other formats
  9. Cathartic Pyre: too much utility for an instant
  10. Comet Storm: one-sided board wipes need to be focused on creature type
  11. Consider: too typical a card for blue
  12. Crippling Chill: too typical a card for blue
  13. Crush: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  14. Dawn Charm: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
  15. Dive Down: hexproof makes for less interesting games
  16. Divine Offering: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  17. Dragon's Fire: too typical a card for red
  18. Electrify: too typical a card for red
  19. Fell the Pheasant: too narrow
  20. Gainsay: too narrow
  21. Gut Shot: too weak
  22. Heroic Intervention: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
  23. Hold the Line: too narrow
  24. Into the Core: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  25. Lash of Thorns: too weak
  26. Make Your Mark: too weak
  27. Opt: too typical a card for blue
  28. Overload: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  29. Pitfall Trap: too narrow
  30. Repulse: too typical a card for blue
  31. Scrap: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  32. Seedtime: too narrow
  33. Shatter: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  34. Smash: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  35. Smashing Success: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  36. Smite: too narrow
  37. Turn to Frog: turns a creature into a Frog, not a supported creature type
  38. Unsummon: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better

SORCERY

  1. Blasphemous Act: too typical a card for red
  2. Chart a Course: too much utility
  3. Cleansing Wildfire: too much utility
  4. Cultivate: too typical a card for green
  5. Disentomb: too typical a card for black
  6. From the Ashes: too narrow
  7. Funeral Rites: too much utility
  8. Gitaxian Probe: too typical a card for blue
  9. Necromantic Summons: too typical a card for black
  10. Nighthaze: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
  11. Persist: too typical a card for black
  12. Pirate's Prize: too much utility
  13. Ponder: too much utility
  14. Reanimate: too typical a card for black
  15. Recover: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
  16. Serum Visions: too typical a card for blue
  17. Spitting Earth: too typical a card for red
  18. Thoughtcast: too typical a card for blue

ADDED:

ARTIFACT

  1. Coat of Arms: encourages building around creature types
  2. Patchwork Banner: encourages building around creature types

CREATURE

  1. Arahbo, the First Fang: supports the Avatar and Cat creature types
  2. Avatar of the Resolute: supports the Avatar creature type
  3. Autonomous Assembler: supports the Assembly-worker creature type
  4. Bag End Porter: supports the Dwarf creature type
  5. Breya, Etherium Shaper: supports the Human and Thopter creature types
  6. Captain Storm, Cosmium Raider: supports the Human and Pirate creature types
  7. Captivating Unicorn: supports the Unicorn creature type and supports enchantment decks
  8. Centaur Battlemaster: supports the Centaur creature type and functions as a strong payoff for prowess decks
  9. Chronicler of Heroes: supports the Centaur creature type
  10. Conclave Cavalier: supports the Centaur and Elf creature types
  11. Conclave Mentor: supports the Centaur creature type
  12. Crosis, the Purger: supports the Dragon creature type
  13. Fear of Exposure: supports the Nightmare creature type and supports enchantment decks
  14. Ghostly Changeling: supports all creature synergy decks
  15. Gimli of the Glittering Caves: supports the Dwarf creature type
  16. Glissa Sunseeker: supports the Elf creature type
  17. Graveshifter: supports all creature synergy decks
  18. Gwenna, Eyes of Gaea: supports the Elf creature type
  19. Haunt of the Dead Marshes: supports the Elf and Nightmare creature types
  20. He Who Hungers: supports the Spirit creature type
  21. Heedless One: supports the Avatar and Elf creature types
  22. Jungle Creeper: supports the Elemental creature type
  23. Jungle Delver: supports the Merfolk creature type
  24. Kataki, War's Wage: supports the Spirit creature type and functions as artifact hate
  25. Keiga, the Tide Star: supports the Dragon and Spirit creature types
  26. Kiora's Follower: supports the Merfolk creature type
  27. Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca: supports the Merfolk creature type
  28. Lagonna-Band Trailblazer: supports the Centaur creature type
  29. Marwyn, the Nurturer: supports the Elf creature type
  30. Master Skald: supports the Dwarf creature type
  31. Mine Layer: supports the Dwarf creature type
  32. Neighborhood Guardian: supports the Unicorn creature type
  33. Promised Kannushi: supports the Human and Spirit creature types
  34. Realmwalker: supports all creature synergy decks
  35. Reveka, Wizard Savant: supports the Dwarf creature type
  36. Seraphic Steed: supports the Angel and Unicorn creature types
  37. Soul of Zendikar: supports the Avatar and Beast creature types
  38. Steadfast Unicorn: supports the Unicorn creature type
  39. Stingmoggie: supports the Elemental creature type and functions as artifact hate
  40. Sygg, River Cutthroat: supports the Merfolk creature type
  41. Vineshaper Mystic: supports the Merfolk creature type
  42. Wistful Selkie: supports the Merfolk creature type
  43. Yargle and Multani: supports the Elemental and Spirit creature types
  44. Zacama, Primal Calamity: supports the Dinosaur creature type

ENCHANTMENT

  1. Aura of Silence: functions as artifact and enchantment hate
  2. Aura Shards: functions as artifact and enchantment hate
  3. Blessed Sanctuary: supports the Unicorn creature type
  4. Corrosion: functions as artifact hate
  5. Embargo: interesting prison piece for stasis decks
  6. Font of Fortunes: card advantage at a fair price for Cumly Cube
  7. Gate to Phyrexia: functions as artifact hate and supports the niche but possible sacrifice deck
  8. Impending Disaster: a useful piece for aggressive decks or niche graveyard decks
  9. Shared Animosity: supports all creature synergy decks

LAND (types are grouped together in this list)

  1. Drowned Catacomb: completing the full set of check lands
  2. Glacial Fortress: completing the full set of check lands
  3. Hinterland Harbor: completing the full set of check lands
  4. Sulfur Falls: completing the full set of check lands
  5. Cascade Bluffs: completing the full set of filter lands
  6. Graven Cairns: completing the full set of filter lands
  7. Mystic Gate: completing the full set of filter lands
  8. Sunken Ruins: completing the full set of filter lands
  9. Wooded Bastion: completing the full set of filter lands
  10. Darkwater Catacombs: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  11. Desolate Mire: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  12. Ferrous Lake: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  13. Fire-Lit Thicket: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  14. Flooded Grove: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  15. Overflowing Basin: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  16. Skycloud Expanse: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  17. Sunscorched Divide: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  18. Viridescent Bog: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands

INSTANT

  1. Accelerate: supports prowess decks
  2. And They Shall Know No Fear: supports all creature synergy decks
  3. Artifact Mutation: functions as artifact hate and supports the Saproling creature type
  4. Bandage: supports prowess decks and is also funny
  5. Brokers Charm: charms are an important part of Cumly Cube
  6. Charge Through: supports prowess decks
  7. Cremate: supports prowess decks
  8. Mirrodin Avenged: supports prowess decks
  9. Poison the Blade: supports prowess decks and offers deathtouch in green instead of its typical color, black
  10. Pressure Point: supportsli prowess decks and offers tapping in white instead of its typical color, blue
  11. Steady Progress: supports prowess decks as well as slower proliferate decks
  12. Sugar Rush: supports prowess decks and offers power boost in black instead of its typical color, red
  13. Treacherous Greed: supports the niche but possible sacrifice deck
  14. Turf Wound: a strange tempo card that fits the ethos of Cumly Cube
  15. Warriors' Lesson: supports prowess decks and might end up as green Ancestral Recall

SORCERY

  1. Altar of Bone: supports the niche but possible sacrifice deck
  2. Aphetto Dredging: supports all creature synergy decks
  3. Apocalypse: total game resets are an important part of Cumly Cube, because you end up playing more Cumly Cube!
  4. Ashen Powder: a more situational and odd piece for reanimator decks
  5. Blood for Bones: a more situational and odd piece for reanimator decks
  6. Breath of Life: offers reanimation in white instead of its typical color, black
  7. Broken Bond: functions as artifact and enchantment hate yet also ramps
  8. Channel the Suns: a strange yet useful mana-fixer. Out with fetch lands, in with sorcery WUBRG!
  9. Cloak of Feathers: supports prowess decks
  10. Crippling Fear: supports all creature synergy decks
  11. False Dawn: supports prowess decks and might offer mana-fixing in niche situations? Even if this card is pretty useless, it screams Cumly Cube
  12. Grim Tutor: tutoring is a small part of Cumly Cube but very important in the right decks
  13. Growth Spasm: offers ramp, mana-fixing, and supports the Eldrazi creature type
  14. Hymn of Rebirth: offers reanimation in green and white instead of its typical color, black
  15. Ice Storm: land destruction is a small part of Cumly Cube but a necessary balance, and not usually in green
  16. Jace's Triumph: there are Jace planeswalkers in Cumly Cube
  17. Mana Vapors: a strange tempo card that fits the ethos of Cumly Cube
  18. Many Partings: offers mana-fixing and food
  19. Migratory Route: offers mana-fixing and supports the Bird creature type
  20. Obzedat's Aid: offers reanimation in black and white
  21. Ordered Migration: supports the Bird creature type
  22. Raise the Palisade: supports all creature synergy decks
  23. Resourceful Return: a more situational and odd piece for black graveyard decks and artifact decks
  24. Ribbons of Night: offers direct damage in black instead of its typical color, red
  25. Rise of the Witch-king: a more situational and odd piece for reanimator decks
  26. Riveteers Confluence: similar to a charm
  27. Safewright Quest: offers slight mana-fixing in green and white
  28. Solve the Equation: tutoring is a small part of Cumly Cube but very important in the right decks
  29. Sweep the Skies: supports the Thopter creature type
  30. Temporal Machinations: supports artifact decks
  31. Unnatural Restoration: supports proliferate decks
  32. Urborg Repossession: a more situational and odd piece for black graveyard decks

Bishoprage on The Queen's Egg

2 months ago

Hi Mortlocke thank you for this awesome guide. I'm just getting into EDH and have become obsessed with Silvers! I'm slowly acquiring all the cards and putting together my Silver's deck. I'm sorry if this isn't the right place for this question but could you recommend any replacements for the following cards? I included my thoughts but I have no where near the knowledge of you and this community.

I was thinking the cycle triomes, which would be an even swap of 10 for 10 and can still be fetched.

Much love and thanks for this awesome guide!

Balaam__ on Boros Angel Lifegain

7 months ago

A lot of this will depend on the budget you’ve allotted the deck, but off the top of my head here are some simple fixes for your mana problems.

1) Replace stuff like Stone Quarry and Kabira Crossroads with Fetchlands or Shocklands. Since you’re in Legacy, true Duals like Plateau are the obvious suggestion, but they’re ludicrously expensive and out of reach for most. So things like Arid Mesa or Sacred Foundryfoil are much more affordable and the next best thing. If that’s still out of reach, try fastlands or other less common mana producers like Inspiring Vantage or Clifftop Retreat. In other words, any land that says ‘Enters Tapped’ is slow as molasses and to be avoided.

•Another neat little trick is to run stuff like Flagstones of Trokair. A full set will let you thin your own deck with no drawback. You plop one down and have ready to go, and each subsequent one you play after that will heave the previous one into the graveyard and replace it while also fetching a Plains from your deck for free.

Be sure to check for the cheapest version of each card as well, since prices can vary drastically.

Felipix on How Cheap Can I Get It

1 year ago

you have consider Plateau? I think it's a good one

ThassaUpYo@ssa on Expensive dinosaur stampede

2 years ago

Love the list, CrashBreakdown! Have you considered the fast lands (i.e., Copperline Gorge, Razorverge Thicket, and Battlefield Forge)? Also, I personally like the pain lands Karplusan Forest, Brushland, and Battlefield Forge especially since you have multiple ways of gaining life. I would also get proxies of the original dual lands Taiga, Savannah, and Plateau.

Triumph of the Hordes may be worth an add as well given how powerful the Dinosaur tribe is and would give you another wincon.

nafuller on

2 years ago

Lands: Battlefield Forge Rugged Prairie Plateau Hanweir Battlements  Meld Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion Field of the Dead - if you go with a bunch of nonbasics

Untaps: Patriar's Seal Drumbellower

Board Wipes: Farewell Vandalblast

Red Temp Steal Synergy: Seize the Spotlight Grab the Reins Act of Aggression

Damage Multipliers: Fatal Frenzy Angrath's Marauders Fiendish Duo Gratuitous Violence City on Fire Solphim, Mayhem Dominus Torbran, Thane of Red Fell

Mana: Land Tax Weathered Wayfarer Knight of the White Orchid Thaumatic Compass  Flip Smothering Tithe Keeper of the Accord

Creatures: Inferno Titan Ball Lightning Dockside Extortionist Terror of the Peaks Llanowar Elves Purphoros, God of the Forge Pure Reflection - Not a creature but ho boy can you sac Urabrask's Forge Battle Angels of Tyr Esper Sentinel Anger Sun Titan Cosmic Larva Blistering Firecat Phyrexian Soulgorger Hofri Ghostforge Impetuous Devils Nova Chaser Taurean Mauler Chandra's Incinerator

+X Power Purphoros's Intervention Unleash Fury Mirror Entity Elturel Survivors

Fun: Legion Loyalty Duke Ulder Ravengard Blade of Selves Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite Hamletback Goliath

Mortlocke on DemonDragonJ

2 years ago

DemonDragonJ, Interesting I've found that in the online forums I do post this opinion it's always met with fairly the same response. But, stick with me here - maybe i'm crazy but please let me try and share my perspective.

Lets go back to the days of original Zendikar - the first time Wizards has packaged Reserved List product as a "prize" or "treasure" card. Sales go through the roof - and boxes on the secondary market go for hundreds - as of now, it's about $1,200USD. Wizards takes note - there is money left on the table here.

Now, lets fast forward to 2019 the year Throne of Eldrane drops and the year Wizards announced The Elimination of MSRP. This year is huge - the introduction of the $200 Collector's booster box, and when Wizards starts partnering up with big box companies like Wal Mart and Amazon. According to MTG Goldfish Collector's Throne boxes currently go for $357 USD. Wizards is effectively selling directly to consumers and now has justification for selling for higher prices without that pesky MSRP getting in the way.

Now, lets go to 2020 - the year of the infamous Double Masters, and more importantly Double Masters VIP edition. The introduction of the $100 USD booster pack. Currently going for $169 (giggity) USD again, according to MTG Goldfish. Now lets leap to 2022 - Double Masters 2022 currently going for $304. Finally lets go to today, we have Dominaria Remastered Collectors going for $285 USD and the upcoming Lord of the Rings going for $200 USD for non Collector and $500 USD for Collector. Additionally, Commander Masters will be going for $400USD at release.

It is painfully obvious here that Wizards wants the prices of their product to trend upward. We have seen that wizards has used "limited edition" cards as justification for raising prices to obscene heights. I infer that Wizards will absolutely use the promise of Reserved List product to sell us a box that will cost well beyond the price point of the average player. I don't care what RL cards are in that box - I don't want to see the day where I'm literally priced out of my hobby. I think that every person who is advocating for the RL to be dismantled isn't thinking about the consequences and only about blind want - Wizards is NOT your friend. They will release predatory products and at the end of the day those coveted cards will still be out of the reach of an average player. They will be treated like serialized cards. Do you honestly think that they will print a Plateau or a Black Lotus at common or uncommon?

The answer was spelled out for us during Magic: 30th - use Proxies. Wizards did it, why can't we? Removing Wizards from the equation will grant everyone's wants - people get access to the utility of the card at a reasonable price. Additionally, Wizards doesn't get a greedy justification to continue to raise prices for exciting new products. I understand people want to collect and covet - but at some point I think they need to be realistic and understand that Wizards is a business at the end of the day. Our voices and spending habits have consequences - and I absolutely do not want to face the consequences of a group of individuals who can't or absolutely refuse see the big picture.

!!!WARNING RANT!!! Show

Fluggleshmuggits on Cube Eternal

2 years ago

Changelog 12/10/22

Original Dual lands are in
2 color man lands are in
upgrades in every color and almost every guild pair

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