Plateau

Land — Mountain Plains

({T}: Gain {R} or {W}.)

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Oldschool 93/94	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (50)

Balaam__ on Boros Angel Lifegain

3 weeks ago

A lot of this will depend on the budget you’ve allotted the deck, but off the top of my head here are some simple fixes for your mana problems.

1) Replace stuff like Stone Quarry and Kabira Crossroads with Fetchlands or Shocklands. Since you’re in Legacy, true Duals like Plateau are the obvious suggestion, but they’re ludicrously expensive and out of reach for most. So things like Arid Mesa or Sacred Foundry are much more affordable and the next best thing. If that’s still out of reach, try fastlands or other less common mana producers like Inspiring Vantage or Clifftop Retreat. In other words, any land that says ‘Enters Tapped’ is slow as molasses and to be avoided.

•Another neat little trick is to run stuff like Flagstones of Trokair. A full set will let you thin your own deck with no drawback. You plop one down and have {W} ready to go, and each subsequent one you play after that will heave the previous one into the graveyard and replace it while also fetching a Plains from your deck for free.

Be sure to check for the cheapest version of each card as well, since prices can vary drastically.

Felipix on How Cheap Can I Get It

1 year ago

you have consider Plateau? I think it's a good one

ThassaUpYo@ssa on Expensive dinosaur stampede

1 year ago

Love the list, CrashBreakdown! Have you considered the fast lands (i.e., Copperline Gorge, Razorverge Thicket, and Battlefield Forge)? Also, I personally like the pain lands Karplusan Forest, Brushland, and Battlefield Forge especially since you have multiple ways of gaining life. I would also get proxies of the original dual lands Taiga, Savannah, and Plateau.

Triumph of the Hordes may be worth an add as well given how powerful the Dinosaur tribe is and would give you another wincon.

nafuller on

1 year ago

Lands: Battlefield Forge Rugged Prairie Plateau Hanweir Battlements  ^Meld Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion Field of the Dead - if you go with a bunch of nonbasics

Untaps: Patriar's Seal Drumbellower

Board Wipes: Farewell Vandalblast

Red Temp Steal Synergy: Seize the Spotlight Grab the Reins Act of Aggression

Damage Multipliers: Fatal Frenzy Angrath's Marauders Fiendish Duo Gratuitous Violence City on Fire Solphim, Mayhem Dominus Torbran, Thane of Red Fell

Mana: Land Tax Weathered Wayfarer Knight of the White Orchid Thaumatic Compass  ^Flip Smothering Tithe Keeper of the Accord

Creatures: Inferno Titan Ball Lightning Dockside Extortionist Terror of the Peaks Llanowar Elves Purphoros, God of the Forge Pure Reflection - Not a creature but ho boy can you sac Urabrask's Forge Battle Angels of Tyr Esper Sentinel Anger Sun Titan Cosmic Larva Blistering Firecat Phyrexian Soulgorger Hofri Ghostforge Impetuous Devils Nova Chaser Taurean Mauler Chandra's Incinerator

+X Power Purphoros's Intervention Unleash Fury Mirror Entity Elturel Survivors

Fun: Legion Loyalty Duke Ulder Ravengard Blade of Selves Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite Hamletback Goliath

Mortlocke on DemonDragonJ

1 year ago

DemonDragonJ, Interesting I've found that in the online forums I do post this opinion it's always met with fairly the same response. But, stick with me here - maybe i'm crazy but please let me try and share my perspective.

Lets go back to the days of original Zendikar - the first time Wizards has packaged Reserved List product as a "prize" or "treasure" card. Sales go through the roof - and boxes on the secondary market go for hundreds - as of now, it's about $1,200USD. Wizards takes note - there is money left on the table here.

Now, lets fast forward to 2019 the year Throne of Eldrane drops and the year Wizards announced The Elimination of MSRP. This year is huge - the introduction of the $200 Collector's booster box, and when Wizards starts partnering up with big box companies like Wal Mart and Amazon. According to MTG Goldfish Collector's Throne boxes currently go for $357 USD. Wizards is effectively selling directly to consumers and now has justification for selling for higher prices without that pesky MSRP getting in the way.

Now, lets go to 2020 - the year of the infamous Double Masters, and more importantly Double Masters VIP edition. The introduction of the $100 USD booster pack. Currently going for $169 (giggity) USD again, according to MTG Goldfish. Now lets leap to 2022 - Double Masters 2022 currently going for $304. Finally lets go to today, we have Dominaria Remastered Collectors going for $285 USD and the upcoming Lord of the Rings going for $200 USD for non Collector and $500 USD for Collector. Additionally, Commander Masters will be going for $400USD at release.

It is painfully obvious here that Wizards wants the prices of their product to trend upward. We have seen that wizards has used "limited edition" cards as justification for raising prices to obscene heights. I infer that Wizards will absolutely use the promise of Reserved List product to sell us a box that will cost well beyond the price point of the average player. I don't care what RL cards are in that box - I don't want to see the day where I'm literally priced out of my hobby. I think that every person who is advocating for the RL to be dismantled isn't thinking about the consequences and only about blind want - Wizards is NOT your friend. They will release predatory products and at the end of the day those coveted cards will still be out of the reach of an average player. They will be treated like serialized cards. Do you honestly think that they will print a Plateau or a Black Lotus at common or uncommon?

The answer was spelled out for us during Magic: 30th - use Proxies. Wizards did it, why can't we? Removing Wizards from the equation will grant everyone's wants - people get access to the utility of the card at a reasonable price. Additionally, Wizards doesn't get a greedy justification to continue to raise prices for exciting new products. I understand people want to collect and covet - but at some point I think they need to be realistic and understand that Wizards is a business at the end of the day. Our voices and spending habits have consequences - and I absolutely do not want to face the consequences of a group of individuals who can't or absolutely refuse see the big picture.

!!!WARNING RANT!!! Show

Unrelated Rant - I think that should've been my original post. I still don't think there's a majority of players who want the RL to be removed simply because there are no figures available to the public. Just rumor, hearsay, and biased inference. I also don't think i'm in any sort of majority or minority for the same exact reasons. We're a bunch of nerds complaining about a hobby on the internet. That's it. If Wizards were to come out and say "hey we got the numbers, and the people have spoken" then that would change everything - but what really annoyed me was just the desperate and bizarre examples presented on my previous post. Why can't people just be objective and skeptical? Why this pseudo-religious fervor when you should say "Yeah, I have a bias. I can't find honest objective examples. I can' only go by what i've seen - and yeah, they're straight up echo chambers." I can at least say -every online forum i've expressed my opinion, I've always been met with (at times childish) negative discourse.

On that note: I do have a bias - I've started playing in High school and collected a set of RL dual lands. I worked for, and bought them. They are treasured, and are played in my 3 decks. Those cards are special to me - and yes, I think them being reprinted would objectively make them less so. It would be the equivalent of wizards reprinting serialized cards after I just bought a playset. But the vast majority of decks I own and play are unmodified precons. I love precon commander - but again, I am self aware enough to know that I don't have infinite money - and I can't afford to buy any additional RL cards so I proxy. 99% of the games i've played are all casual, and as long as I simply know my deck well enough to speak to it's themes and contents everyone is fine. If I can manage to get some nice proxies and let people know what i'm running - why can't everyone else? Heck, even when I do play with the actual cards, I still let people know what i'm running just to make sure we are playing a game where everyone gets to have a chance at being the threat. I want fun - not to pubstomp with stupidly priced cardboard. But to me, all it seems like is that all these folks that want the RL gone just want the latter. They just want to be able to flex and have all the power with none of the responsibility or pride in ownership.

Fluggleshmuggits on Cube Eternal

2 years ago

Changelog 12/10/22

Original Dual lands are in
2 color man lands are in
upgrades in every color and almost every guild pair

IN

• Cathar Commando
• Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
• Gideon Jura
• Parallax Wave
• Haughty Djinn
• Thirst for Discovery
• Hullbreaker Horror
• Baral, Chief of Compliance
• Liliana, the Last Hope
• Liliana, Waker of the Dead
• Cryptbreaker
• Rotting Regisaur
• Massacre Wurm
• Legion Warboss
• Guttersnipe
• Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
• Ilharg, the Raze-Boar
• Firebolt
• Tooth and Nail
• Biogenic Ooze
• Niv-Mizzet, Parun
• Sin Collector
• Nahiri, the Harbinger
• Grist, the Hunger Tide
• Escape to the Wilds
• Trostani Discordant
• Natural Order
• Celestial Colonnade
• Creeping Tar Pit
• Lavaclaw Reaches
• Raging Ravine
• Stirring Wildwood
• Shambling Vent
• Wandering Fumarole
• Hissing Quagmire
• Needle Spires
• Lumbering Falls
• Tundra
• Scrubland
• Plateau
• Savannah
• Underground Sea
• Volcanic Island
• Tropical Island
• Badlands
• Taiga
• Bayou

OUT

• Quirion Ranger
• Frost Titan
• Crystal Vein
• Cave of Temptation
• Talisman of Creativity
• Talisman of Curiosity
• Talisman of Conviction
• Talisman of Resilience
• Talisman of Hierarchy
• Strionic Resonator
• Sunken Hollow
• Cinder Glade
• Canopy Vista
• Prairie Stream
• Smoldering Marsh
• Irrigated Farmland
• Scattered Groves
• Canyon Slough
• Fetid Pools
• Sheltered Thicket
• Seal of Cleansing
• Battle Screech
• Eidolon of Rhetoric
• Spirit Link
• Shoreline Ranger
• Deep Analysis
• Attunement
• Rewind
• Fate Unraveler
• Visara the Dreadful
• Ultimate Price
• Ruinous Path
• Bloodsoaked Champion
• Scab-Clan Berserker
• Sin Prodder
• Slice and Dice
• Starstorm
• Firebrand Archer
• Vessel of Nascency
• Seal of Primordium
• Lifecrafter's Bestiary
• Abrupt Decay
• Appeal / Authority
• Wear / Tear
• Rhythm of the Wild
• Unburial Rites
• Enigma Drake

amarthaler on EDH Vampiric Bloodlust (C17 Precon Upgrade)

2 years ago

Updates!

In: Phyrexian Tower… Skullclamp… Scapegoat… Visions of Phyrexia… Read the Bones

Out: Drana, the Last Bloodchief… Damnable Pact… Plateau… Stinging Study… Kindred Boon

Phyrexian Tower will pair well with Phyrexian Reclamation for recursion. Skullclamp and Read the Bones are amazing card draw and part of the pre-con's original 99. Visions of Phyrexia comes out 18 Nov and looks awesome.

DawnsRayofLight on Isshin, Two Heavens as One

2 years ago

DreadKhan makes valid points.

I prefer to run shocks, Core set, and filter lands (like Godless Shrine, Isolated Chapel and Fetid Heath respectively) as well as the flip lands (Brightclimb Pathway  ^Flip for example). I wish I could justify getting cards like Plateau

There are other ways of making a good land base as DreadKhan mentions. The recent Innistrad set Dual lands are pretty good and hopefully the commander lands will drop in price once Baldur's Gate hits. Shock lands aren't too pricey these days, save for a couple of them. They have been reprinted several times. The Strixhaven lands are also pretty good.

I have recently updated my Isshin list if it helps give you some ideas: Obi-Wan Can Blow Me. I went more midrange with it and it runs amazingly.