If Mox Diamond would enter the battlefield, you may discard a land card instead. If you do, put Mox Diamond onto the battlefield. If you don't, put it into its owner's graveyard.
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Mox Diamond occurrence in decks from the last year
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Mox Diamond Discussion
1 week ago
Hey there, I'm new to cEDH and very interested in building Orvar but I'm curious to the reason why some seemingly common ramp isn't included. Lion's Eye Diamond Mox Diamond or Grim Monolith for a few. Is the deck just strapped for card space as is? Thanks!
4 weeks ago
cfost827 To make the deck any more competitive, the easiest thing to do is to include more cheap mana sources, add more disruption, and cut the higher mana cards. I'd consider some more competitive cards like Mana Vault , Mox Diamond , Dark Confidant , Imperial Seal , Ad Nauseam , Opposition Agent etc. The cards you should look at cutting are the slower, high cost ones like Requiem Angel , Solemn Simulacrum , Archon of Justice , etc. This doesn't include Razaketh, the Foulblooded or Vilis, Broker of Blood though since they practically win the game upon entering. Tweaking the deck to give it 5% more power level can be difficult since such a small change is subtle. You're going to have to add and cut cards to feel it out and probably play a ton of games to test.
In terms of what to cut for more fodder, you could cut Archon of Justice and Sifter of Skulls for Carrier Thrall and Imperious Oligarch , or whatever 2 drops you want. Archon and Sifter are a lot slower than cheap fodder, so if you want more, you can cut cards like them. If you want more than 2 new pieces of fodder, you could keep cutting slower 4-6 drops like Solemn Simulacrum , but it'd impact your mana base or other aspects of the deck.
DubWubby This is a cool combo. You could include it, but you're right in that it's fragile and inconsistent. It's really strong in ideal scenarios like with Buried Alive or any time you draw Vizier of Remedies with any persist creature. However, it'd be hard to include for a few reasons. If you draw persist creatures and don't have vizier, they're weak sac fodder on their own, so you'd want to include few of them. However, if you draw vizier without persist creatures, then she's almost useless, so you want to include more of them. Finding the balance of how many persist creatures you need as well as what to cut is the challenge. Saying that, Putrid Goblin is almost as efficient as other 2 drop fodder cards, and both him and vizier have 1 toughness for Skullclamp , so they aren't irredeemable on their own.
4 weeks ago
I have looked at cEDH and often thought what it would take. From the looks of it, you are looking at a The First Sliver + Food Chain for cEDH sliver fun. I also think your interaction and counter magic needs to be on point for it think Force of Will , Force of Negation , Mana Drain , Fierce Guardianship etc. Probably also looking at OG duals and full set of fetches. Just a bit too rich for my blood lol. Oh, and then you got your fast mana like Chrome Mox , Mox Opal , Mox Diamond and Mana Crypt etc. Only way I'm doing all of that, is through proxies lol
1 month ago
Seeds of Innocence is a great green alternative to Vandalblast that I've never seen anyone else consider, even though it's cheaper than Creeping Corrosion in mana. I'm using it in my cEDH Marwyn, the Nurturer deck, to blow up a lot of opposing fast mana very early. Getting rid of someone's Mana Vault , Sol Ring , Chrome Mox and Mox Diamond on turn 2 is amazing, and your opponent only gains 2 life for that.
In the same vein, Meltdown is an amazing card if your deck is light on artifacts itself.
My Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire deck is all about ramping out the commander fast, give it haste and have fun with the transformation trigger. Orcish Lumberjack and Tinder Wall are very overlooked and efficient mana dorks to help complete that goal.
1 month ago
1 month ago
I've brewed up a mean pauper list - which you've seen but definitely intend on brewing up a normal optimized list eventually. Here are some of my notes.
1) Get Fynn out either asap or wait until you've developed your board and use him as a pay off. Getting him out on turn 1 can be done in a few ways... Lotus Petal and Elvish Spirit Guide are the go to budget options. Mana Crypt and Mox Diamond - are always a solid include but I believe you noted that was out of price range. So, I'm not exactly sure if Chrome Mox , Mox Opal and Jeweled Lotus are out of the question too.
2) Ohran Frostfang is a beast do not remove this card. Even if granting deathtouch is redundant, this is an excellent curve topper and draw engine. Also, you may not get full value out of Bow of Nylea ; if you ran some Birthing Pod , Eldritch Evolution or a go wide token lines its probably more worth it.
1 month ago
Seen your message on discord if your aiming to make the deck faster id probably look at some missing staples Mox Diamond , Your artifact count isnt there for opal unfortunately ive found Jeweled Amulet to be great at accelerating early action aswell also our rituals in black Dark Ritual Cabal Ritual etc. I assume lantern is to combat moons? Otherwise feels like it could slow you down id say black market is probably too slow aswell too much investment and upkeep to make it good for an early push try Carnival of Souls i found it fantastic in aristocrat style decks your pingers generally negate the damage when ur going off and it really helps smooth out things during the combo turn mana wise. We could run cat combo aswell with Leonin Relic-Warder and any of the 3 enchantment reanimate spells.( Dance of the Dead , Animate Dead Necromancy ). This makes a loop where u can infinitely sac cat for value. Great game the other night! Hope to see nev again soon!
1 month ago
Nerdytimesorwhatever appreciate the feedback - got some responses for ya.
Vindicate (in my opinion) has more value in this deck as it removes any permanent without causing a loss of life that could be spent elsewhere. Anguished Unmaking is a great suggestion - now you've got me thinking about making the switch.
Illusionist's Bracers (again, personal opinion) has been pretty powerful in this deck, allowing you to tutor two enchantments at once (duh) and usually win with that interaction. I will agree, it is a bit slow/clunky for cEDH, especially with the 3 mana equip cost, but I've been able to consistently get it out turn 1/2 and have it equipped before Zur swings turn 2/3. All that aside, it is almost useless to draw into turn 4/5 unless the board gets wiped. There are a couple other targets for equipping this as well, with Dark Confidant and Hullbreacher coming to mind.
Diplomatic Immunity is usually the second enchantment I tutor out (after Necropotence of course) and has always provided additional security for Zur. It also combos well with the other equipment in this deck, and the nuances of shroud when Zur tutors out an equipment.
Daybreak Coronet , All That Glitters , and Phyresis are essentially a back-up plan for the Thoracle/TP/DC win condition. The look on an opponent's face when you swing for 20+ infect in an esper deck is always amusing as well.
Great point about Tainted Pact . Four Islands has never gotten in the way of it working for me, although you are absolutely right that in some cases that would stop it completely. I'll definitely have to revisit this and make some changes.
To be honest, this is the first time I've ever seen Spell Snare - need to add that ASAP.
Shimmer Myr is an excellent card, but this deck doesn't run any lines that win with artifacts aside from the obvious Isochron Scepter . Maybe I'm missing something, but most Shimmer/Zur decks focus more on artifacts than this does.
I've got a vault copy of Mox Diamond , but am too scared to use it at the $800 price point. Proxying might be the move for that.
Miscast is another I've been debating, but haven't found a spot for it yet.
I threw Drannith Magistrate in here almost immediately after it was release to support the stax(ish) undertones of this deck - completely agree how absurd that card is.
Thanks again for the feedback!