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Sygg, River Cutthroat
Legendary Creature — Merfolk Rogue
At end of turn, if an opponent lost 3 or more life this turn, you may draw a card. (Damage causes loss of life.)
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DreadKhan on Fun commanders
2 weeks ago
I think I'd look for a Commander that comes with some card draw stapled to it in some way if you are starting out and want to limit budget, but one that also avoids undue attention. Good card draw tends to be very $$$, but stuff like Sygg, River Cutthroat can draw lots of cards even if people are just swinging regularly, the Commander rewards you for people losing life, a thing that happens as a matter of course. Dimir is really good at drawing cards, creature removal, and Blue is full of spells that can save your butt very easily, it's not just about casting a Counterspell, sometimes you want Aetherspouts. Blue can solve almost any problem (in theory), and do it at instant speed, I know when I was a new Commander player it bothered me quite a bit if I lost to a deck because I couldn't deal with some vulnerable lynchpin in their strategy, much more so if I don't run anything that solves it (and thus will always lose in that situation). Blue avoids that feeling better than any colour I'd argue, but it's also the hardest colour to play 'optimally'. The biggest weakness of Dimir is that your creatures tend to be smaller weenies or utility dorks, so you can't just go taller than a Gruul or Naya deck, especially on a budget, if you have an inner Timmy (a player who likes big, splashy cards to excess) Green is probably more your speed. Green also has lots of card draw, and has stupid cards like Squallmonger that are pretty budget, give that Deathtouch or Lifelink and you're in incredibly good shape, but what if you throw a Keen Sense or Snake Umbra on it? 2 mana and 1 life for 3 cards isn't bad for a budget deck, having something that'll clear out flying weenies can be priceless in Green.
5 months ago
I'll just start with the idea that the reason Elves and Vampires can win in cEDH is because they tend to grow exponentially, quickly spiraling out of control; Elves through mana dork sizing-up, and Vampires through sacrifice and mana doubling strategies.
Rogues don't really have the potential to grow at this same rate, and from the looks of it this deck will struggle to deal with three other well-refined decks at the table. This isn't a criticism of your deck, obviously, but more a general warning of how it will function at a cEDH table.
That being said, Rogues may not have exponential growth tied to them, but they do have a unique strategy that you could utilize to a greater extent. This would likely require a reworking of your current strategy, and a new commander at the helm.
Since Dimir and Rogues in general do not have ready access to good ramp, I would highly suggest either enhancing your control shell or making Sygg, River Cutthroat your commander. Sygg gives you access to card draw and synergy with your unblockable rogues (though I would suggest taking Blighted Agent out in general, since it doesn't deal traditional damage and doesn't cause your opponents to lose life), plus it is more mana-efficient and allows for a better tempo. By turn 4 or 5 you really should be developing if not completing your win-state in cEDH. Bident of Thassa would make a good t3-4 drop in preparation for a finishing blow on turn 5 (likely would be accomplished through "death by a thousand cuts").
You could also lean into the infinite combo route. I noticed for instance that you're running Tainted Pact and Thassa's Oracle. I might suggest adding Jace, Wielder of Mysteries and Demonic Consultation as well to streamline this combo.
Let me know if you have any questions.
parksplace on Parker's Petitions
6 months ago
king-saproling Funnily enough I had actually been seriously debating trying to change this deck into a Dimir self mill. I used to run a Ashiok, Dream Render for cleanup in my mono blue (not legal). I have since thought about Running Sygg, River Cutthroat as I could basically keep mono blue and just use him as card draw and keep in my Ashiok legally.
Funnily enough though, I do have a Araumi of the Dead Tide in my inventory. I had never envisioned running that with petitioners but some of the examples you have pointed out lean towards a strong, but also unique build. I actually believe I will move forward with the idea of changing my paper petitioner deck listed above into an Dimir Araumi of the Dead deck. It likely wont be soon, but after I sell some of my budget decks, I'll have more funds to shop around for the black cards above.
Thanks a ton for these idea updates.
coolcid78 on SkullBriarGraveDeck
11 months ago
you cant have Sygg, River Cutthroat in the deck
Epicurus on Hired Mercenaries
1 year ago
Love the deck, and I appreciate that it leans toward aggro rather than mill. I have a similar Anowan deck, but mine focuses on stealing creatures from graveyards.
Cards to consider:
Just to name a few.
1 year ago
Thank you for your advice once again. I decided to add Zur the Enchanter and Dimir House Guard since I think I ve enough enchantments which cost 3 cmc or less. Further more I decided to add Sygg, River Cutthroat to the deck, since I am sure I will often do more than 3 damage and hopefully my oppononents do it too. And he is a pretty cheap card too. I decided to remove Conclave Tribunal since I don t think it was a fitting card in the first place. I decided to remove Ugin, the Ineffable but I am not sure if it is the right decision but I don t know what to remove otherwise. Maybe you can tell me. The last card I removed was Diabolic Tutor since Dimir House Guard seems to be the better choice to find Zur the Enchanter in my libary. Thank you.
1 year ago
On a budget, I guess Underworld Connections might make the cut. If you find your hand is consistently tiny, Midnight Oil isn't as bad as people think, you just need to be able to play both cards you draw consistently. Castle Locthwainis another option that works if your hand is always small, and War Room might be a bit of life, but Alela has lifelink. Dawn of Hope could work if Alela deals damage often. Faerie Formation is reasonable if you want a 1/1 faerie and a card, and a 5/4 flyer is pretty beefy. Sygg, River Cutthroat is probably good enough to consider, Court of Grace and Court of Cunning both give you the Monarch, which means a card, and the bodies you generate might make it harder for people to take it from you, and 1/1 flyers going wide will always be getting it back. The Blue Court can actually be a backup win con if people can't take the Monarch from you due to Pillowfort effects.
Zur the Enchanter isn't quite card draw, but it is card advantage, possibly multiple turns worth of it. He can find removal, or potentially card draw, so Zur seems like good value for mana if your deck runs enough enchantments he can find. If you want to find him (or any other card), you might consider Transmute cards rather than card draw. If you always want to have access to Zur (or any 4 MV card) you can Transmute Dimir House Guard into that card, and it's cheaper than Diabolic Tutor while not being a spell, and thus being much harder to interact with. Transmute cards exist at other values as well, mostly 0-6 and 9, and they are always in U or B, which Alela has access to.
Hope some of this is helpful! I will probably build an Alela deck at some point myself, so it's neat to see what other people put together
dpolatchek01 on Anowon, The Rogue Daddi
1 year ago
I've played a lot of games with my Anowon deck and what I've found is that Anowon unfortunately does not mill enough to ever kill anyone that way. I've made mine more like a rogue tribal version of a Sygg, River Cutthroat deck where we just hit them with unblockable creatures and use the mill as a vehicle to steal stuff. Throwing in some ninjas to make the unblockable nerds better has also been great. With that said if you want to mill them for the kill I won't judge you for that ;)
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