Liliana, Waker of the Dead
Legendary Planeswalker — Liliana
+1: Each player discards a card. Each opponent who can't loses 3 life.
-3: Target creature gets -X/-X until end of turn, where X is the number of cards in your graveyard.
-7: You get an emblem with "At the beginning of combat on your turn, put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control. It gains haste."
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Liliana, Waker of the Dead Discussion
4 months ago
Ramp (12): Kiora, the Crashing Wave , Nissa, Who Shakes the World , Teferi, Temporal Archmage , Astral Cornucopia , Chromatic Lantern , Sol Ring , Circuitous Route , Cultivate , Explosive Vegetation , Kodama's Reach , Oath of Ajani , and Harrow
Card Advantage (11): Ajani Unyielding , Jace, Unraveler of Secrets , Jace, the Mind Sculptor , Kiora, the Crashing Wave , Liliana, Dreadhorde General , Tamiyo, Collector of Tales , Teferi, Hero of Dominaria , Teferi, Temporal Archmage , Vraska, Golgari Queen , Toothy, Imaginary Friend , and Tezzeret's Gambit
Removal (12): Ajani Unyielding , Liliana of the Veil , Liliana, Dreadhorde General , Liliana, Waker of the Dead , Teferi, Hero of Dominaria , Ugin, the Spirit Dragon , Vraska the Unseen , Vraska, Golgari Queen , Vraska, Relic Seeker , Assassin's Trophy , Fierce Guardianship , and Path to Exile
4 months ago
Thank you amicdeep . Dropped Damnation , switched out Domri Rade for Domri, Anarch of Bolas and Davriel Cane for Liliana, Waker of the Dead . Added an extra 2 utility lands on top of the Raging Ravine i already had. Also added the Nissa of Shadowed Boughs , had played with that card on arena and forgot how good it actually was if you can protect it. Will have a think on some other options for removal...
4 months ago
It's a solid start, but there are a couple of changes I would make, first, drop damnation, it's about 35% of your budget and only so, so in this deck. Next I would have a look at your removal packages (over the last year standard has done wanders for budget options)
I would seriously consider Bonecrusher Giant as a solid body and nice removal. It's a really nice hit by bloodbraid due to its duel nature
And Vraska, Golgari Queen it's a card draw engin late game and normally 2 abrupt decays. Which is always welcome.
I would also consider 2 copy's of Chevill, Bane of Monsters as he's solid card advantage and your offen going to be killing stuff.
As your not running dark confident or goyf your probably should be running 2 Tasigur, the Golden Fang as it's a solid mid game beater and late game card advantage engin.
Stone rain is ok but far from ideal in this deck, offen it's a do nothing card.
Also if your running blighting I'm a big fan of Chandra, Acolyte of Flame as she's basically a 2 snap casters mages. (She dose need some help for teh double red mana but it's with the range of workability)
On the subject of plainswalkers apart fro vraska (which is your best budget option) your other solid options are Domri, Anarch of Bolas , ramps, protects against control lists, it pumps and it removes stuff. He's probably the best option. After that there's also Liliana, Waker of the Dead (as close to lilly of veil as where going to get) and Nissa of Shadowed Boughs who is deceptively good over a long Grindy match, bringing back your best creature with counters, and being triggered twice a turn but evolving wilds.
Hope some of this helps.
4 months ago
libraryjoy i got a lot of the suggestions that you made and I am already enjoying the new deck! I was wondering if you could also take a look at my sideboard. These are other cards that I own. Some of them are a little extreme, like Armageddon for a mana - ramp deck, but should I put any of these in my main deck? Or leave them in my sideboard depending on the opponent? Another card I am considering is Sunblast Angel . Its ability to destroy all tapped creatures could be used with Blinding Light , but I feel like that would not happen enough to make it worth it.
What are your thoughts on Planeswalkers? Some that I am considering that are on the more affordable side but still good cards are Sorin, Solemn Visitor , Liliana, Waker of the Dead , Ajani Goldmane , and Ajani, Caller of the Pride . I would consider getting two of these because they are only about $4 each. Or should would it be worth it to buy only one PlanesWalker and get Sorin Markov ?
Again, I really appreciate all the help! MTG is a lot more fun when your deck works well!
4 months ago
Hello all. I want to add Liliana, Waker of the Dead to my Grixis Superfriends deck. I have 6 boardwipes, and I think that is too much. I want to take out one to have 5 boardwipes and be able to include liliana. What should I take out, Languish and Ritual of Soot ?
5 months ago
Maybe board (8)
6 months ago
Liliana, Waker of the Dead was in the first draft which focused a little more on hand disruption with Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger , and I liked her as removal. I've been trying to find a way to get Rankle, Master of Pranks in but I just didn't think I could afford to replace the early drops. I've always known I'd make this swap considering the mana-cost and effects are so similar.
So my question now is: How many early-game hits do I need? Is it perfectly reasonable to just to cast Cathartic Reunion on 2 rather than set up a board state against aggro? I haven't been able to play the deck yet, purely theory-crafting, but I feel like it could work as is. The build you two seem to be suggesting would take out a lot of the interaction which is something I'm not really used to running or building. I think more importantly, I'm worried about being able to win at all if Offspring's Revenge gets countered. Maybe I'm over-valuing early pressure or I'm exaggerating combo's frailty, but I want to explore this build a bit more first.
What do you think of the Legion Angel suite? Worth it?
6 months ago
Sorry about the historic suggestions earlier, I got a bit confused.
Anyway, more on topic, you certainly should do your best to put cards in your graveyard fast to get the most out of Offspring's Revenge . Feels really bad to have it in play and nothing to bring back. The suggestions you got from usurphling make a lot of sense and I would like to reiterate that cards like Gyruda, Doom of Depths and Rankle, Master of Pranks would be right at home here and would work both as payoffs and enablers.
Considering today's meta, I feel like it could be a good idea to run more than 60 cards for you since you'll be going through your deck quickly and there's a lot of rogues and mill deck around. You only run 3 Offspring's Revenge as it is, so you could easily add another 1, a few more big hitters, 4 Cathartic Reunion (and some lands, obviously) and I'm sure the whole thing would work better in general while not being too prone to decking out.
Btw, Liliana, Waker of the Dead is a cute addition but I don't think I would go as high as 3 copies of her. You don't focus on getting your opponent empty handed, and discarding cards without drawing any isn't that great for you either. I don't think you'll have a hand full enough to have something you actually want to discard turn after turn. Something that just mills you could work better without destroying your hand. Her Ultimate and -2 also fights over your graveyard with Offspring's Revenge .