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- Salvage Scout + Sun Titan
- Fiend Hunter + Sun Titan
- Fleshbag Marauder + Sun Titan
- Dance of the Dead + Sun Titan
- Myriad Landscape + Sun Titan
- Ashnod's Altar + False Demise + Sun Titan
- Blasting Station + False Demise + Sun Titan
- Altar of Dementia + False Demise + Sun Titan
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Creature — Giant
Whenever this enters the battlefield or attacks, you may return target permanent card with converted mana cost/mana value 3 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield.
1 day ago
I really like your Alibou list! It's a fair chunk different than mine, but my guess is that we play is fairly different metas. My playgroup doesn't do stax too much, so i've stayed away from them in my build. It's cool to see a deck list that utilizes cards like Ethersworn Canonist and Lodestone Golem. Sands of Time looks chaotic as hell, and pretty synergistic with Alibou.
Also, the infect win conditions are fun. Grafted Exoskeleton is terrifying on Alibou.
I like seeing the graveyard interactions in the deck, I ended up cutting a lot of that from my deck as it doesn't directly synergize with Alibou, but Scrap Trawler, Goblin Welder and Sun Titan can do wonderful things together.
I have a question somewhat unrelated to this deck, I have an Imotekh the Stormlord deck which does a lot of artifact graveyard shennanigans and runs Kuldotha Forgemaster. How has that card played out for you? I've found it a little slow sometimes, but it also looks like it can do insane things. What makes for a good artifact shell around Kuldotha?
1 week ago
3 weeks ago
Potential Removals/Substitutions I would recommend roughly 13 creatures (15 with the commanders) Due Respect Festival of the Guildpact Immolating Glare Niveous Wisps Pressure Point Daybreak Coronet Healing Hands Citywide Bust Kor Outfitter Light-Paws, Emperor's Voice Sleeper Dart
Potential Additions +4 plains/other lands Sram, Senior Edificer Stonehewer Giant Danitha Capashen, Paragon Colossus Hammer Swiftfoot Boots Argentum Armor Masterwork of Ingenuity Sun Titan Knight of the White Orchid Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle Metalwork Colossus Mirran Crusader Divine Reckoning Slash the Ranks Secret Rendezvous Fireshrieker Loxodon Warhammer Nettlecyst Golem-Skin Gauntlets Bloodforged Battle-Axe Sculpting Steel Maul of the Skyclaves Batterbone Angelic Armaments Arch of Orazca Avarice Amulet Battle Angels of Tyr Bonder's Ornament Coveted Jewel Cosmos Elixir Eye of Vecna Flumph Fey Steed Howling Golem Howling Mine Infiltration Lens Mask of Memory Mikokoro, Center of the Sea Otherworld Atlas Seer's Sundial Skullclamp Staff of Nin Stone Haven Outfitter Strength-Testing Hammer Tapestry of the Ages Teferi's Puzzle Box Temple Bell The Celestus War Room Blade of Selves Brass Knuckles Delver's Torch Demonmail Hauberk Dragon Throne of Tarkir Executioner's Hood Heartseeker Hedron Matrix Holy Avenger Moonsilver Spear Ogre's Cleaver Sigil of Distinction Sigil of Valor Skinwing Spellbinder Warlord's Axe Worldslayer
3 weeks ago
Oh and if something happens to it, Sun Titan can bring it back.
2 months ago
Gidgetimer I very much appreciate the attention and in-depth feedback you and multimedia have been giving this deck. This is my first deck, I started building it back in June. I will eventually slot in non-tap duals, but I'm on a fairly restrictive budget and don't have a large personal card pool to pull from yet.
I 100% agree about Crop Rotation. In this stage of the deck, it's doing nothing for me. I'm not sure I agree about it not being a dredge deck (yet). It's hard to know right now, but when I do get my Fauna Shaman Golgari Grave-Troll engine running, it feels pretty good. Fauna Shaman can tutor for Eternal Witness and Shigeki, Jukai Visionary and allow me to pull cards back from the yard, it might be a little slower than a cantrip, but the number of cards I have my pick from is much better than just peeling off the top of the deck.
Back to budget, I probably can't swing for Mesmeric Orb right now. I also eventually plan to swap out Diabolic Tutor for Vampiric Tutor, but I'm building at the speed of cash. I like Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire though and might be able to find a spot for that! I like that it also has the option to be used diplomatically if someone else has an answer to a bigger threat at the table.
I see the potential for mana dorks and I'm particularly keen on Elves of Deep Shadow. As far as one land per turn, If I get my Fauna Shaman engine going, I can be playing two lands per turn as early as turn 4. Of course, it's nice to have backup since getting the ideal opening hand and first two draws is very low.
multimedia there's a lot of good information in your post as well. Sun Titan seems really promising and a flash enabler would be great here too. I'll keep working this over in my mind and see what make sense!
2 months ago
Good choices for cuts and adds.
Unfortunately, don't use the scale here to gauge competitiveness of your deck. It's crap, doesn't work well and it's better to just ignore it, turn it off in the editor. Trust me and everyone else who's helping you here in the comments. Your deck is improving, becoming more competitive with each change.
Yes, Bane of Bala Ged is better than Demon of Loathing, but it has similar drawback since it's also 7 mana and has to attack to trigger. Creatures like Bane and Demon are better in colors that have lots of haste enablers. On a budget Abzan doesn't have them therefore if you're going to play high mana cost creatures they should have an ETB ability or provide value another way. Sun Titan is an example, it's 6 mana, but in my opinion it's better than Bane and Demon since it could reanimate something when it ETB and it can be a combo piece.
I'm not saying to not play creatures who don't do anything the turn they ETB, but those creatures should be lower mana cost, not higher mana cost. Low mana cost to potentially play one and something else that same turn or play one and leave up mana for instant interaction with your opponents. Fauna Shaman is a good example, it can't tap the same turn you play it, but it's a 2 drop not a 7 drop. It's possible that Body Launderer won't do anything the same turn it ETB, but it's 4 drop as well as being a combo piece. These are big differences than a 7 drop.
Currently, your only option is to mutate Nethroi at sorcery speed on your turn thus the creatures you reanimate should give you value or combine to win the game that same turn. You don't want to rely on having those creatures on your next turn, reanimating creatures who don't do anything until they can attack could just waste Nethroi mutate. An opponent may just cast a board wipe and destroy all your creatures potentially not getting much from mutate.
There are effects in Abzan that are like haste such as flash or reanimating at instant speed. An effect that gives flash to a creature would let you cast/mutate Nethroi on an opponent's turn. Doing this lets all creatures you reanimated then attack on your next turn.
- Vivien, Champion of the Wilds: the best option since it's static ability gives flash to all creatures you can cast.
- Yeva, Nature's Herald: only really useful to flash mutate Nethroi, but it's a creature.
- Savage Summoning
When you're playing so many creatures giving them flash can be very useful and also powerful. More instant creature reanimation goes with the strategy of self-mill, consistent creatures in graveyard. You're playing Doomed Necromancer, it and Apprentice Necromancer if they can tap can reanimate on an opponent's turn.
2 months ago
Sun Titan is a good budget value creature for repeatable reanimation of permanents. Pair Titan with Apprentice Necromancer, but only on your turn because you have to attack with Titan. For only one the combo reanimates Titan with Necromancer, Titan reanimates Necromancer and attack with Titan because it has haste to reanimate any other 3 CMC or less permanent. Titan dies in combat or at your end step and repeat the combo on your next turn. With a sac outlet such as Viscera Seer you could repeatedly reanimate Eternal Witness to recur any card.
Golgari Thug is more dredge and it's only a two drop for sac fodder. It interacts well with draw spells that make you sac a creature to cast the spell: Deadly Dispute, Village Rites, etc. First draw the creature you put on top of your library from Thug die trigger and second draw replace it to dredge or vice versa.
2 months ago
Possible suggestions from ya boi Seal of Doom, Executioner's Capsule, Bastion of Remembrance, Go for the Throat, Wayfarer's Bauble, Skullclamp, Whip of Erebos,Damn, Looks really good but keeps going up in price Sign in Blood,Infernal Grasp,Ravenous Chupacabra is better than shriekmaw since hes not restrictive. 33 lands is a little low for me imo Some protection for her wouldn't hurt i think the blink cards like Cloudshift, Eerie Interlude are really good because they can also blink any LTB or effects if need to like Sun Titan and also add a bit of protection from removals. Maybe some indestructible spells or enchantments.