Null Rod

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Null Rod

Artifact

Activated abilities of artifacts can't be activated.

sergiodelrio on No sacrifice

3 weeks ago

Your best bet imho is to try and prevent activations with cards like Pithing Needle Cursed Totem Interdict Null Rod Phyrexian Revoker Sorcerous Spyglass Damping Matrix or Karn, the Great Creator

Some things will still fly under the radar tho and does not really help your Sauron I guess.

SufferFromEDHD on Land, ho!

3 weeks ago

Overburden > Crystal Shard

Do you need the equipment? Damping Matrix, Null Rod and Collector Ouphe would do serious work in this strategy.

Floodbringer and Oboro Breezecaller value.

Profet93 on Kura

3 weeks ago

markbeloit +1

I like your fight + stax pieces. Have you thought of adding redundancy for collector ouphe with Null Rod or do you believe it's not necessary? It only shuts off the activated ability of conduit of worlds.

You should swap out half of your forests for snow-covered to trigger field of the dead more easily.

Elemental Bond/Garruk's Uprising > Collasal majesty.

Hour of Promise - Land tutor

Pir's Whim - Land tutor + politics and/or removal.

Yavimaya Hollow - Protection + politics. I get you want stuff to die most of the time but it's nice to be able to protect something or be political when you want to.

Mirrorpool - Copy important instants and sorceries

Miren, the Moaning Well - Sac outlet for commander. can also sac the token it makes to gain life in a pinch.

Castle Garenbrig - Ramp

MAYBE Greater Good - It's main purpose is to be a sac outlet for your commander. It is also nice against theft decks. Not to mention it can put lands in your grave for you to recur. Lastly, it can make your token created by your commander a fuel for additional draw.

MAYBE Nylea's Intervention - While your commander does allow you to tutor, sometimes it might get exiled, or maybe you want the token more than the land tutor. Not to mention it can destroy fliers which this deck seems to be weak against.

How is the abundance + sylvan library combo been treating you?

Looking forward to your response for each suggestion. I like this deck, I've been thinking of adding Kura to my Azusa list.

Bazzul on Belzenlok, Godo's Ugly Cousin

1 month ago

I’m back after a long break. I guess I’ll answer months after the questions I did not reply to… Sorry to everyone.

igorforkst I am not a fan of Null Brooch the 2-mana price tag is not really viable as we rarely have 2 extra mana to spare when Belzenlok is cast. After Belzenlok ETBs, counterspells are not that much of an issue. We have hand disruption through Grief to remove them and if one goes through, we can still threaten a win next turn.

Nempek I added your suggestions. Specially Grief is the single best card that has been printed in the recent years for this deck. Hand disruption during the turn we combo off is huge. It also has a very effective interaction with Sibsig Muckdraggers giving us and additional cheap discard effect. Regarding your second question, I am almost certain that the deck list you linked has a typo. I believe the player used Dread instead of Dread Presence.

xenca Awesome line, honestly, I like the fact that it uses more efficient combo pieces (artifacts that tap for mana). If you don’t have artifact hate in your meta I would 100% try running this line instead of the regular ooze. Despite the more efficient components of this robot ooze, I still believe Necrotic Ooze should be used by default to avoid being shut down by Stony Silence and Null Rod. The other issue I have with it is that it doesn’t gain Skirge Familiar’s activated ability, thus if an opponent attempts to remove Trazyn the Infinite when Argivian Avenger’s haste ability is on the stack with say Path to Exile and you are out of mana you can’t add by discarding and redo the loop.

Profet93 on Xiahou Doom

3 months ago

Sc000t +1

Interesting deck, nice low avg cmc. A couple comments, questions and suggestions....

  1. Insidious Dreams - Seems like it's prime for a counterspell. I don't see a single way to deal with blue. Moreover, you barely have any draw to even draw into your top cards. I know you have bolas citadel and necro but its not enough. You definitely should consider adding more draw. I know you want to assemble your combo with tutors but more draw definitely can't hurt
  2. Sacrifice - How has this been playing for you? I assume you use it in response to an opponent targeting your big demons?
  3. Warlock Class - I'm missing something, how is this helpful for your build?
  4. Darkness - Does your meta include a lot of creatures/combat? How has it been playing for you, would you consider swapping it out for more draw perhaps?

Suggestions....

  1. Imp's Mischief - It can redirect targeted removal, draw, extra turns and can "counter" counterspells. Moreover, it's another useful card to imprint onto Isochron Scepter.
  2. Cabal Coffers - Ramp
  3. Syphon Mind - Draw and discard. Alternatively, Mind Twist is great to bait blue or ramp into early game to cripple another player.
  4. Yawgmoth's Will - Recursion
  5. Opposition Agent - Not needed but puts in a lot of work.
  6. Mana Vault - Ramp, works well with beseech
  7. Phyrexian Arena/Read the Bones/Sign in Blood/Night's Whisper - Decent draw to consider
  8. Peer into the Abyss - Super draw that can help you get half your library to find your combos and win. Alternatively, you can target an opponent for politics or you can target them and then cast another spell that makes them lose life = to what they those this turn to finish them
  9. Dauthi Voidwalker - As a substitute or redundancy for leyline.

Comments....

  1. Are 9 castable instants worth utilizing isochron scepter? I understand the high impact it can have. That being said, you should consider adding additional targets. Isochron itself usually get's 2 for 1ed as well.
  2. Your combos don't have a lot of synergy with each other. You have a demon + lifeloss which is a synergy, not so much a combo. You have isochron synergy, not combo, which isn't synergistic with the deck itself. Sanguine + Exquisite is solid, albeit costly. Lastly you have the leyline + helm combo which isn't synergistic with the deck. Rather than having a bunch of combos and tutors in the deck to assemble them as you lose to tempo and blue, why not cut down on 1-2 of the synergies/combos to add more draw or interaction to ensure your deck runs more smoothly and you can more easily protect your main combo and use a backup if necessary?
  3. Headgames is solid AF. That card alone is worth upvoting your deck, you have my respect
  4. Have you considered going into a bit more a control route? You have contamination that works very help. You have black removal to kill mana dorks but most decks utilize artifact ramp to get around that, what has your experience been with that? Other cards to consider this route are as follows....

A) Infernal Darkness - Its like contamination as it can bait blue, its easier to maintain (usually 1-2 turns is all you need) and doesn't impact your nykthos, lake or ancient tomb.

B) Karn, the Great Creator - It's static ability is a one-sided null rod, in conjunction with contamination/infernal darkness, is a strong soft-lock. It's first ability can help you remove artifacts that you have no other options to remove. It's second ability can bring back bolas, grindstone, painters servant, etc...

C) Null Rod - It does stop about 9 of your cards, but there are other decks that utilize way more artifacts than you.

SufferFromEDHD on Jolrael ManLandFall

4 months ago

And Null Rod is just chopped liver?!

ASalesman on Unesh, Ultimate Guide (Tribal)

6 months ago

One more minor sub

Replace Swan Song with An Offer You Can't Refuse. I need this slot to hit artifacts as well. I don't mind giving the opponent 2 treasures if it keeps something like Null Rod or the card that shall not be named off the table.

ASalesman on Unesh, Ultimate Guide (Tribal)

6 months ago

GHoag thank you for your most critical feedback. I agree with a lot you have to say on this. There are a few things I'd like to discuss further. I'll mirror your format so you know how I am responding to what. Thank you for the praise on the list so far, there is definitely some things to be worked out still. "The pinnacle is a concept only to the unambitious" -flavor text from a card I don't remember lol. (sorry for the novel below)

Regarding Fetchlands, I think the deck thinning is negligible or very hard to notice at most. This aspect of them definitely can't be a bad thing. But playtesting has shown that the negative effects of including them are negligible. I have never been upset about running all 4. Also, the synergy these lands has with Vantress Visions (Virtue of Knowledge) feels reeeally good.

Rite of Replication is expensive mana wise. The purpose of Rite is to get through your whole deck in one go assuming Unesh is on the field, which is not always the case. In my playtesting, it has been very hard to resolve due to mana cost, and when you do meet the mana requirement it is never safe from interaction. Given these flaws, this card might as well say "if you are targetting Unesh and this card resolves, you win the game." With the FOFs, you can pick up all counter magic and free mana rocks on the way down your deck to cast & protect Thassa's Oracle. A non-negligible side effect, this makes choosing piles easier to do because you no longer have to grab sphinxs or other wincons. This wincon is still relevant at this mana cost. I think the jury is still out if this is the best choice though. With inifinite mana you can do something similar, and I'll talk more about this below. Q: Why not add Personal Tutor? Simply because you don't need 3 copies of Rite. I already don't like Mystical Tutor, but the versatility to grab any instant makes it worth it. By the time you meet the mana requirement, you will have seen Rite or Mystical Tutor. Personal Tutor is too narrow to have in a slot, even on the 'Rite' plan.

cEDH meta talk, there is Turbo, midrange, and stax (early win, midgame win, lategame win respectively.) The average win without any interaction is turn 6-7 on this revision. This solidly puts Unesh into midrange. I think he can be sped up a bit with more revisions. Turn 4 is a late win for Turbo, but with enough interaction to stop the turbo player we can get to the midrange and win the game. Unesh suffers against a a few stax pieces. The main ones being Torpor Orb (which doesn't see a ton of play these days), and Null Rod and Collector Ouphe. Collectore Ouphe doesn't feel so bad with our interaction suite, and Null Rod is even more of a nuissance. If both are on the field, it is an absolute nightmare for Unesh.

Creatures: Yes a lot of fat was trimmed, and it took some time to really narrow down the best Sphinxs in these slots. There is still room for improvement here. For instance Vexing Sphinx feels awful. The reason I added it a while back was because he can be played early game for a bit of card draw. The card draw from this is not worth the mana spent, the fact that even with Unesh out he is 2 blue to cast also feels very bad. I will definitely replace him with another Sphinx, probably Argent Sphinx or Metallic Mimic. For 2 blue I am much happier to see the mana sink on Argent Sphinx. And for 2 colorless I am happy to see possibly the next cheapest sphinx not already in the deck. Enigma Thief though high CMC, I can reliably cast him for his prowl cost at 2 cmc, and his removal is top notch. Dream Eater though the removal is not the best, it is still good. The kicker here is honestly the surveil 4. You do Unesh FOF first, then surveil 4 and hopefully you can put all 4 in the graveyard. Still dream eater does feel a bit slower than everything else. Scholar of the Lost Trove, upfront I feel very strongly about this card. It's not because this is a pet card, it's because I think its very powerful in this deck. Even at 5cmc which is what I normally cast it for, it feels like insane value. You get the Unesh trigger, and a wincon from the graveyard that the opponents thought they didn't have to deal with anymore. After doing some math on this, the average cost of an Unesh trigger with Unesh on the field is ~2.25 cmc in the current revision (that is the cmc of a card generating the FOF divided by the total number of things generating FOFs excluding Rite). At 5 cmc, casting the Scholar gives you a 4 cmc game winning artifact and a ~2.25 cmc Unesh trigger. Not to mention, it gives you flexibility in choosing piles. For instance, If an opponent erroneously puts Panharmonicon in a pile by itself, you can shamelessly take the other 3 cards in that FOF. Palinchron is also rather expensive to set up, but not as expensive as Rite. I think it is a good back up win condition. If Rite doesn't resolve, or if Isochron w/ dramatic reversal doesn't resolve, we need at least one other way to combo off. With ways to tutor for High Tide this win condition has been online surprisingly often, and is definitely threatening. That said having this AND Rite feels too heavy mana wise. I think I am pretty much sold on Isoscepter because of how inexpensive it is. With recent mana rock additions as well as Mox Diamond and Grim Monolith (mentioned below) the wincon is online for far cheaper than Rite and effectively does the same job, also dramatic reversal can be used as a one time use now which makes it good on it's own.

Lands: After a day of listening to cEDH podcasts, this is what I came up with. Urza's Saga is nuts. After playtesting with these lands I felt a big power spike. Thank you for mentioning Mystic Sanctuary again. I didn't think about it being able to retrieve a wincon which is pretty relevant. I will consider slipping this one back in there. I also think that losing just one more Island wouldn't be very impactful. What do you think about Command Beacon? After playtesting, I think there is such a niche case when this card is good in cEDH. I think I prefer an Island here given the more recent revisions.

Enchantments: Agreed, all of these are great cards. Not much to change here.

Instants: I don't think there are any cuts to be made here. After playtesting I think I need to add more Instants to more reliably shut off early combo wins. Demonic Consultation and Ad Nauseum are rampant. Even fitting in a Dispel or Spell Pierce to the deck would go a long way.

Artifacts: Work needs to be done here. I agree with a lot of what you are saying. Lightning Greaves feels bad because board interaction is light and stack interaction is high in cEDH. Caged Sun is usually too expensive to play without cheating it in with Scholar. But scholar wants to hit other game winning cards anyway, so Caged sun needs to go. Grim Monolith and Mox Diamond need to go in. I have been reluctant to add them to the list because I don't have paper copies. You are spot on with these two though. I am not high on Moonsilver Key, but I do like Wayfarer's Bauble. The bauble putting a land into play is important to getting palinchron online, and this also sees great synergy with Vantress Visions similar to the fetch lands. Though bauable is definitely worse than mox diamond and grim monolith, it would be my last cut. Mox Amber indeed doesn't power Unesh out, but we don't need it to. I will say that my playtests have really favored this card. Being able to play more mana artifacts after a FOF for free will keep the FOFs rolling. Mox Amber feels very good. Mox diamond is superior, but I won't take out Mox Amber for it.

REVISION: After synthesizing both our viewpoints, here is a revision that I will go ahead and push. I think you will like this mostly, but let me know your doubts.

EXPLANAITION: This rev cuts the Rite wincon and adds the less expensive Isoscepter wincon. There is still backup wincon in Aetherflux. Isoscepter is backed up by Palinchron, and Aetherflux is supported by Palinchron. Obviously, the goal with infinite mana is to play Thassa's eventually. Dramatic Reversal is good enough on its own now because of the artifacts added recently. I honestly think this is the cheapest that the wincon package can be while still being robust enough to not fizzle out. With these wincons, Unesh doesn't have to be on the field, which makes the deck less reliant on him, mitigating one of the deck's biggest flaws. Cutting Lightning Greaves will likely be inconsequential due to low board state interaction. Muddle and Spell pierce add some more stack interaction while Muddle can find combo pieces. I went with Spell pierce over Dispel because it can hit stax pieces as well as stopping an early combo win. Cutting a sphinx now relies on Ghostly Flicker to be part of the 20%. Mystic Sanctuary and Scholar of the Lost Trove are used to retrieve wincons from the grave if necessary.

I heavily considered subbing Dream Eater for Argent Sphinx. I will need to playtest that change before committing to it.

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