Cinder Glade

Land — Mountain Forest

({T}: Add {R} or {G}.)

This enters the battlefield tapped unless you control two or more basic lands.

Discussion (44)

DemonDragonJ on Reflecting Pool in a Two-Colored …

3 weeks ago

The majority of users here have advised that I not use Reflecting Pool in a two-colored deck, so I shall not do so; thank you, everyone.

As a side note, I do hope that WotC finished the "battle lands" cycle (Canopy Vista, Cinder Glade, etc.) soon, as I am building two enemy-colored EDH decks that would greatly appreciate such lands.

Mortlocke on The Queen's Egg

2 months ago

Hey abierto,

Indeed it’s been awhile since you commented, glad to hear from you. Thank you for bringing these cards onto my radar, let’s discuss them - I can easily tell that Survival of the Fittest would dramatically change the way the deck plays – with Survival of the Fittest + Dregscape Sliver on the board, access to at least 3 {G} mana, 1 creature in hand, and at least an additional {6} I can combo out and win the game on that turn. The only drawbacks I can see here are the mana requirements coupled with the more than likely opponent interaction that would be coming my way. Given that Dregscape Sliver’s ability is only sorcery speed – that only solidifies my concern as A simple Bojuka Bog could wreck me If I do not populate my graveyard with care and proper timing. This makes me wish that Paradox Engine wasn’t banned – I really miss that card. The verdict is out on Survival of the Fittest, I want to like to this card but I can’t help but feel hesitant in including it (let alone the investment). I think I’ll maybe proxy it in and see where that takes me. Speaking which, check out this really awesome alter:

Survival of the Fittest Sliver Alter Show

Dregscape Sliver on the other hand I’m considering including. Maybe cutting Patriarch's Bidding, as I do not like the mana investment and the potential added bonus of assisting opponents. In the metas I play in there are a lot of tribal decks – I’m sitting across from at least one or two other tribal decks every game. I’m ordering a copy today, so thank you for mentioning that card again.

Hi Sneuxfox (death by Snu snu?),

Welcome to my deck page! Thank you for posting. I’ve always wanted to work Magma Sliver into this decklist, but I don’t think it would be a good fit – Magma lends itself toward a Sliver deck that compliments a more Aggro strategy where the goal is to hit a “critical mass” of creatures and abuse enough evasion keywords to get a single creature to knock an opponent out. First Sliver's Chosen would be an absolute must include alongside Magma Sliver, as it would solidify a Voltron strategy by stacking Exalted triggers alongside Magma’s {T} ability. I definitely agree that the aforementioned can get out hand when you have just one Sliver be the target of multiple triggers.

I agree that it's criminal that Magma doesn't make it's way into alot of lists, maybe it's due to most decks wanting to lean into the Mid-range Sliver tool box? Or maybe it's because the deck would need to be more Voltron centric? I decided to throw together a quick decklist as an example of what I think the average deck running Magma Sliver would look like:

Budget Aggro Sliver Decklist Show

• Sliver Hivelord CMDR
• Magma Sliver
• First Sliver's Chosen
• Bonescythe Sliver
• Brood Sliver
• Cloudshredder Sliver
• Crystalline Sliver
• Galerider Sliver
• Gemhide Sliver
• Harmonic Sliver
• Heart Sliver
• Hibernation Sliver
• Horned Sliver
• Manaweft Sliver
• Necrotic Sliver
• Quick Sliver
• Sedge Sliver
• Sentinel Sliver
• Shifting Sliver
• Sliver Legion
• Syphon Sliver
• Striking Sliver
• The First Sliver
• Venom Sliver
• Dregscape Sliver
• Synapse Sliver
• Hollowhead Sliver
• Homing Sliver
• Spiteful Sliver
• Arcane Signet
• Shared Animosity
• Chromatic Lantern
• Demonic Tutor
• Eladamri's Call
• Phyrexian Reclamation
• Grim Tutor
• Urza's Incubator
• Herald's Horn
• Nature's Lore
• Patriarch's Bidding
• Vanquisher's Banner
• Sol Ring
• Sylvan Library
• Three Visits
• Winds of Change
• Sylvan Tutor
• Windfall
• Worldly Tutor
• Skyshroud Claim
• Growing Rites of Itlimoc  ^Flip
• Anguished Unmaking
• Assassin's Trophy
• Beast Within
• Counterspell
• Cyclonic Rift
• Mystic Confluence
• Delay
• Dovin's Veto
• Merciless Eviction
• Path to Exile
• Ruinous Ultimatum
• Nature's Claim
• Blasphemous Act
• Swan Song
• Swords to Plowshares
• Spectator Seating
• Smoldering Marsh
• Indatha Triome
• Rocky Tar Pit
• Breeding Pool
• Brushland
• Training Center
• City of Brass
• Command Tower
• Flood Plain
• Gemstone Mine
• Hallowed Fountain
• Llanowar Wastes
• Mana Confluence
• Vault of Champions
• Rejuvenating Springs
• Savai Triome
• Bad River
• Canopy Vista
• Scalding Tarn
• Prairie Stream
• Steam Vents
• Cinder Glade
• Zagoth Triome
• Raugrin Triome
• Underground River
• Sunken Hollow
• Verdant Catacombs
• Ketria Triome
• Vesuva
• Watery Grave
• Grasslands
• Mountain Valley
• Yavimaya Coast

What're your thoughts on the list, Sneuxfox ?

multimedia on Cheap dragon

3 months ago

Hey, if this is your first deck well done so far on a low budget. Nice Breeding Pool :)

Your deck doesn't have a Commander. I presume Tiamat is your Commander? To fix this in the deck editor where you see the text of all the cards in your deck add the CMDR tag to the end of Tiamat text.

Tiamat *CMDR*

When you save and return to the decklist you'll see Tiamat as the Commander with a card image.

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For a starting deck, nice deck building, you have good card sense on a budget and other than needing a lot more lands there's mot many changes to consider. You have plenty of people helping you so my advice will be for the manabase.

It's helpful in deck building that you include the number of lands you need first that way those deck spots are filled to give you a better idea of the deck spots that are left. You have to have lands thus fill all the spots you need with them and don't cut lands to add other cards as that's not going to help your deck building process in the long run. Start with putting 36 lands, doesn't matter what lands, can be all basics just fill those spots.

All the basic lands are in the sideboard which is not helping your deck building, put them main deck because you need them and you have to make a lot of cuts to fit them in. The 21 lands main deck is a good budget manabase, but I'm not a fan of Signet lands (Mossfire Valley) since they don't tap for mana unless you have another mana source. Tango lands are budget dual lands that care about basic lands whcih is nice when playing a lot of basics. They have two different basic land types making them searchable with Farseek, Cinder/Vista with Lore/Visits. Because you have Lore/Visits then adding a black Forest dual land can search for a black source.

• Cinder Glade --> Mossfire Valley
• Canopy Vista --> Sungrass Prairie
• Sunken Hollow --> Darkwater Catacombs
• Prairie Stream --> Skycloud Expanse
• Smoldering Marsh --> Shadowblood Ridge
• Woodland Chasm --> Rimewood Falls
• Farseek --> Hour of Promise

Breeding, Cinder, Vista, Woodland gives you a choice from each color from a Forest land. If you look at the color pie of your deck in the top left corner it's showing green and red as the two most important colors. The number of basic lands doesn't reflect this. Switch the amount of Swamps and Mountains around.

The biggest changes you have to make is including all the basic lands from the sideboard meaning you need to cut at least 14 cards. Some cuts to consider:

• Hour of Promise
• Circuitous Route
• Migration Path
• Dragon's Disciple
• Red Dragon
• White Dragon
• Green Dragon
• Black Dragon
• Blue Dragon
• Darigaaz Reincarnated
• Purifying Dragon
• Dire-Strain Rampage
• Wizard Class
• Crucible of Fire
• Frontier Siege
• Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury

Four CMC or higher ramp is less needed when you have excellent two drop ramp and other three drop ramp. The Red/White/Green/Black/Blue Dragons are not needed because they're not as good as other Dragons here and Tiamat gives you more freedom to play the better Dragons since he can tutor for them. Dragons don't really need a +3/+3 anthem or Kolaghan's pump effect since they're already flying with high p/t and she doesn't provide any other value.

Good luck with your deck.

Dete on Borborygmos Enraged EDH

3 months ago

le podria Field of the Dead cambiando una basica o Cinder Glade por q no tiene tantas basicas.

si le ponemos Vesuva podriai ponerle tmb Dark Depths+ otra pa copiar Thespian's Stage, en volada pa hacer mas mana rapido ponerle tierras locus.

The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale en volada pa mantener al resto mas piola.

Ash Barrens, Crop Rotation, Expedition Map, Elvish Reclaimer, Evolution Charm, Realms Uncharted son todos buenos pa el enfoque en tierras y 4 son buenos pa buscar las de arriba.

Druid Class, Khalni Heart Expedition,, Azusa's Many Journeys  ^Flip, Rites of Flourishing, Summer Bloom, cualquiera es buena pa esto.

ponerle otra copia del kruphix podria estar weno Augur of Autumn/Wayward Swordtooth

Scute Swarm hmm es muy weno jajaja,Tireless Provisioner, Veteran Explorer en volada son buenos tmb. Splendid Reclamation+Scapeshift≅The Mending of Dominaria, dependiendo q tanrapido lo queri hacer.

Dosan the Falling Leaf/Vexing Shusher/City of Solitude/Defense Grid pa tener un poco de defensa contra counters y otras cosas.

en mi opinion sacaria: Glint-Horn Buccaneer (mas q nada por q no me gusta mucho noma),Living Twister, sacaria 1 o 2 de cualquiera de los encantamientos q cuestan 5/6, Bag of Holding en volada tmb, Dragon Mage, Krosan Grip y/o java

podrias poner cartas con cycling o retrace, tmb Rites of Spring esta wena pa ponerla y Treasure Map  ^Flip le puede dar un poco de mas seleccion de cartas. hmmm le dejaria igual Mulch y añadiria Winding Way por lo mismo.

tylorlilley on Ghired

3 months ago

IN: Reflecting Pool, Spectator Seating, Needleverge Pathway  ^Flip, Cragcrown Pathway  ^Flip, Branchloft Pathway  ^Flip

OUT: Cinder Glade, Inspiring Vantage, Jungle Shrine, Path of Ancestry, Temple of Abandon

multimedia on Averna, the Chaos Bloom In …

3 months ago

Hey, if you need mana help add Arcane Signet? I think mana help you add should help to cast The First Sliver since casting First is the main reason to have mana help. I don't think Averna is needed because when you can utilize it's land ability with cascade you control First Sliver.

Faeburrow Elder is good ramp especially when playing five colors to help to cast First Sliver. If you control First Sliver, Elder taps for five mana (one of each color).

You can also help Farseek as well as overall color fixing from lands by adding more lands that are two or more basic land types. Tango lands (Cinder Glade) and Snow dual lands (Rimewood Falls) are budget options. More Shock lands (Stomping Ground) or Triomes (Ketria Triome) are more expensive options. They could replace some basic lands.

multimedia on Dino Breath

4 months ago

Hey, good start, nice Atla Dino version.

When you start to make modifications consider adding more low CMC noncreature ramp? Arcane Signet, Fellwar Stone, Farseek. The Farseek suggestion goes with some budget land upgrade suggestions: Cinder Glade, Canopy Vista and Alpine Meadow. These lands have two different basic land types which can be searched for by Farseek. When land ramp can get a dual land instead of basic land(s), that helps color fixing.

Quartzwood Crasher is one of the best Dinos since it can create an army of Dinos with trample by itself because it has trample and it's $2. Of course if you have more creatures who have trample then Quartzwood becomes much better esepcially with Ghalta, Primal Hunger. Garruk's Uprising gives all creatures you control trample and it also can be repeatable draw since each time a Dino ETB or Dino token that's created that's 4 or more power you draw a card. Uprising is just plain good with Dinos because most of them have 4 or more power.

With Mirror Entity more effects to give Atla a +1/+1 counter are helpful and you can get more just from budget lands: Tyrite Sanctum, Opal Palace, Forge of Heroes. Sanctum is best of these three because it can be repeatable and you don't have to cast Atla with it. When Sanctum has made Atla a God it can be saced to make Atla indestructible which is really helpful against the majority of board wipes and targeted removal. High Market is a land sac outlet. Crop Rotation can instant tutor for one of these lands, put it onto the battlefield or sac a basic land to get Command Tower.

Fanatical Devotion is more protection for Atla and it's a sac outlet for Eggs.

Good luck with your deck.

DemonDragonJ on How Good are the New …

4 months ago

The new Innistrad block provided a new cycle of dual lands (Deathcap Glade, Deserted Beach, and so forth), which I appreciate, and I especially like how WotC printed a full cycle of ten dual lands, rather than half a cycle of five dual lands, as they too often do.

Naturally, I am wondering how those dual lands compare to other cycle of dual lands, so I wish to ask others about their opinions of those lands.

The best dual lands of all are obviously the original dual lands (Bayou, Tundra, Plateau, and so forth), but those are too expensive for all but the most hardcore of players, so I shall not mention them any further in this thread.

After the originals, the second-best dual lands are the shock lands (Hallowed Fountain, Sacred Foundry, Godless Shrine, and so forth), which are nearly as good as the originals, with only a very minor downside.

After that, however, it is difficult to say what the next-best cycle is; I say that the "battle lands" (Cinder Glade, Canopy Vista, and so forth), the "check lands" (Glacial Fortress, Sunpetal Grove, Isolated Chapel, and so forth), and the filter lands (Cascade Bluffs, Wooded Bastion, Sunken Ruins, and so forth) are all contenders for the title of third-best dual lands, so I am not certain where the new Innistrad lands rank in comparison to them.

What does everyone else say about this? How good are the new Innistrad dual lands?