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Broken Bond Discussion
1 month ago
MixDr0n3 thank you for taking the time to type all that out! This is the first version of the deck and it is still quite rough indeed. Idk how I messed it up but Stony Silence was supposed to be Rest in Peace, I'll fix that right away.
As for a lot of the other things I'll start by saying I haven't been terribly active in mtg since around ixalan. I made a few decks and play online a little but I'm looking to make a full return to the game. That said Prismatic Ending is a card I'm still unsure about 4 of. I'm thinking it'll probably make it to 3 but with the Path to Exile and Fateful Absence idk if I need 4 of it as well. I also don't know the meta all that well so I could be wrong and further testing will help me figure out my numbers better. Shark Typhoon is another I'm testing I've seen it in control lists and it's interesting but I'm also not sold on it quite yet even though I really do like cycling it for flash uncounterable creatures.
It is meant to be a control leaning midrange deck and I agree I probably will need a few more mainboard creatures. With my payoff Geist of Saint Traft is a one of because he's really easy to kill in combat (when I was first making this list I wasn't thinking about my swords giving him psudo-unblockable) and his copy count will probably increase. Tireless Tracker I see as both engine and payoff because of how he can scale through the game. As well as Teferi, Hero of Dominaria making it hard to lose if I get his emblem off.
Ceremonious Rejection is just anti-tron because I remember it being a problem back in the day. Anticognition does seem like a more flexible card and I'll do some testing with it and probably run it, I've never seen it before. Weather the Storm is only for playing against storm/eggs and Summary Dismissal was for storm and if a deck wants to actually cast Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. Vendilion Clique is honestly only side because I never even thought of it as a mainboard card tbh. I don't remember ever running it main in blue moon, delver, or control. Idk why it's just never crossed my mind as that's where I've always seen it and had it. Qasali Pridemage is run over something like Broken Bond because even if the enchant/artifact he's brought in for doesn't come up he's still a creature and can be used for beats. I'll see how running a non-creature for that is in this list for sure though.
Thank you again for the time it took to type all that. I really do appreciate it and you didn't come off as a jackass at all. You were giving advice and that's what I asked for.
1 month ago
This is going to be a long one:
I don't want to come across as a dick. There is potential here, but I also see a few issues. So please don't take what I say negatively, I'm just trying to offer my perspective and advice on it. But at the end of the day, the only evaluation and opinion that matters on your deck is your own.
Now, looking over your deck, I've got several questions. First and foremost: why the hell are you only running 2 copies of Prismatic Ending? That should be a 4 of every time. I would take out the Shark Typhoon in favor 2 more Prismatic Ending because I don't feel that the Typhoon is very helpful the majority of the time.
Question number 2: what is the goal of your deck? I don't get any kind of central idea or goal when I look through this list. It feels like every card operates on it's own rather than all cards working together towards a decisive victory.
The Swords, while great cards in their own right, I don't feel that equipments really have a place in this deck for the simple fact that you only have 9 creatures. Yes, a third of them are Stoneforge Mystic but with only 9 creatures in the deck how much can you reasonably expect to gain from having the equipments especially since they are all only one of's.
Weather the Storm? Really? How much value are you ever going to get from that in this deck? Maybe 6 life gained? It's not enough to warrant a spot in the sideboard, especially since your life total does not matter in the slightest until you get down to 0.
Ceremonious Rejection and Summary Dismissal are very questionable additions when Anticognition or Negate exists. What I like about Anticognition, especially in Modern where Dredge is pretty prominent, is that if your opponent has a bunch of cards in their graveyard then you get to scry 2 while countering their spell. That's value, and it can counter any spell whereas Ceremonious Rejection can only hit colorless spells. Hell, even Negate can only hit noncreature spells but that is still a lot more viable than only colorless spells considering how many more noncreature spells there are than there are colorless spells.
My biggest concern is that while you're basically in a Bant control deck, you don't have really any pay off. If you are going for a control style deck, then what is your endgame? How do you plan on winning? Is it with Geist of Saint Traft? And if so, why is Geist only a one of?
Overall, there is potential here. But there is an equal amount of questionable and possibly sub-optimal choices in here too. I would like to see some more cohesion and a more clearly defined strategy/goal. If you want to go control, I'd suggest having some more payoff/ways to end the game. Not necessarily more creatures, but more of the right creatures (like Geist, that is a very good card that I am absolutely amazed that you only have one in the mainboard. And also some more card draw to help find your payoff, maybe something like Serum Visions or something along those lines. Conversely, if you want to go more midrange, then you might want to run a few more creatures. Maybe in the range of 13-17 creatures. Either way you go, you might want to consider tossing the swords and the Mystics in favor of other cards that benefit the ultimate goal. They're all great cards but again they don't help out too much in this list.
And my final closing thought is that the sideboard is very rough to say the least. There's not a single card in the sideboard that I'm really a fan of in the context of this deck. I mean, Stony Silence completely ruins the inclusion of the equipments unless you take them out when you bring it in because equipping is an activated ability of an artifact, which can't be activated because you brought in a card with a symmetrical effect. And Summary Dismissal is not that good outside of commander. Weather the Storm isn't likely to get you much of anything since you're not actually playing storm. Ceremonious Rejection is just a bad card when there are many other better conditional counter spells that exist.Qasali Pridemage is ok, but if it's in there for the enchantment/artifact removal, then there's better options out there like Broken Bond. Vendilion Clique is a good card, but it should be a mainboard rather than just hiding in the sidebaord. Same thing for Geist of Saint Traft. Geist should be no less than a two of but it would be best to have at least three of him in the mainboard.
Again, I don't want to come across as a jackass. I just want to offer some advice on what I see. And what I see is a concept that has potential to be really really good, but is a little too all over the place to get there in it's current state. Just a bit more cohesion and a central idea as to what you want to do would go a very long way. I hope that you were able to find something useful in what I've said, but again if you disagree with me then that's fine. It's your deck, and the only thing that really matters is whether or not you enjoy playing it. Happy hunting, my friend.
2 months ago
Forgot about Xenagos, God of Revels for more buff creatures
Broken Bond solid remove plus ramp, Cindervines a much smaller Ruric but can add up, Destructive Revelry one of the best artifact/enchantment removals in my opinion, Wilt is ok the cycling can help some but not the greatest, Decimate/Hull Breach just some of the best removals
2 months ago
3 months ago
I really like the idea of more colors getting access to interact with the stack and I really think White is a good color to add some additional design space. Obviously it cannot get on par with blue so it needs some additional conditions or costs associated to get this effect.
I think this is a very good example to fit that space. Nice work.
Just a side note, for the sake of reducing word count could it be written as "... costs less for each spell cast and each ability activated by your opponents this turn." ?
I get the point in being specific about only caring about your opponents' actions but I think it would be consciously misinterpretation of the above line to think it isn't specifically for your opponents' actions.
Why is white a good fit? (wall of text) Show
First of all it seems like counter magic is a vital tool to interact with combo strategies especially when considering the Commander format, and it is the reason we've seen so many "free"-to-cast counter spells especially for Commander and why they drive sales so much. However that is only accessible to Blue, so the rest of the color pie is borderline useless in attempting to interact with most combos. I mean a Silence could work to interact with some combos, but that is such a narrowly applicable card in the rest of the game that it remains a tech card with a heavy drawback. And it might just eat one of the aforementioned "free"-to-cast counter spells and there's not much redundancy available either.
There's a reason why most competitive cEDH decks are including Blue. Coincidentally a lot include Black and Green as well as the three most powerful colors in Magic - at least for single-ton formats.
White used to have some affinity for artifacts but that seems to have been handed over to blue/red. Right now White is mostly concerned about Equipments within the artifact realm and the synergies are not that widespread nor that powerful.
White used to be the best or on par to deal with artifacts and enchantments with Disenchant and Purify and similar effects but green has mostly taken over in acquiring design space for this mechanic - Bane of Progress Broken Bond You Find a Cursed Idol. The best improvement on the mechanic that white has is Austere Command due to flexibility and Heliod's Intervention to snipe multiple without harming yourself. And that's one of the bigger differences. White leans more on Enchantments and Artifacts than Green does, so Green doesn't have much drawback in including Bane of Progress. Whereas White leans on Artifacts for mana ramp and Equipments and they lean on Enchantments for strong synergies.
White once had their card advantage through ensuring their board survives, either through protection, prevention, regeneration, then shroud to a lesser degree, then indestructible - but only on creatures. However Black has gained exile mechanics, red has "burn to a crisp" mechanics and blue Cyclonic Rift or Curse of the Swine. So indestructible as a safety measure is getting worse and worse. Not to mention they get outdone by Green - again. Only exception is the ever increasing price on Teferi's Protection but that has its drawbacks too - namely you remove yourself from the game and can't interact further - unless you somehow can cast spells without mana from permanents.
Cards like Rebuff the Wicked or Lapse of Certainty are interesting to expand upon within the design space for white and will grant it back some strengths and uniqueness it used to have. However to be able to properly interact with the stack it cannot just be conditioned behind being the one targeted - that would equate it to hexproof/protection and also make it useless against board wipe or the infamous Cyclonic Rift one-sided board sweep.
Possibly the design space could include some "punisher" mechanics loaned from red but transformed instead of inflicting pain on the opponent, you gain a benefit - for instance:
Choose target spell or ability an opponent controls. That opponent may have Inspection counter the chosen spell or ability. If they don't, choose one:
- Create three 1/1 white Human Soldier tokens.
- Create two Treasures then gain 4 life.
- Search your library for up to two basic land cards and put them into your hand, then shuffle.
The flavor being to pass the spell you have to pay the toll (chosen by the Inspector for their benefit) or be rejected.
Taxing is the most recent mechanic that white has expanded upon and embraced but that is usually done on permanents as static or triggered abilities. This means WotC have to water down these cards' immediate impact and make the mechanic less enticing in the short run, which is often when it matters the most. Drawing Thalia, Guardian of Thraben on turn 5+ is often not that impactful, whereas on turn 2 you can cripple some decks. It would be refreshing if WotC would expand on the mechanic for ETBs or instant/sorceries with a here-and-now benefit rather than dragging it out.
Additionally the taxing mechanic could utilize other taxes than just paying mana to do stuff. Inflexibly taxing mana has a good chance to affix unfriendly eyes on you whereas gaining a taxing benefit - say Smothering Tithe is less likely to breed anger toward you but may instill fear.
Anyway, I think it would be good for White to gain a little more design space and I think more colors being able to interact with the stack would be a good thing - even if that means Blue has to share some of their mechanics to a degree with another color.
3 months ago
Broken Bond aka you can't ramp but I can
this is my favorite card to play on turn 2 and the only card I loose my poker face to in Opening hand lol
9 months ago
For extra ramp, Tyvar Kell can allow all your elves to tap for Black mana. Also, I noticed you don't have much in artifact or enchantment hate. Broken Bond can not only give you an extra slot in that department, but also allow you to play an extra land.
10 months ago
I like cards like these with Damia since they get her out faster and help to empty your hand once she's out: Sakura-Tribe Scout, Skyshroud Ranger, Broken Bond, Swell of Growth, Azusa, Lost but Seeking. And they all feature ladies!
You might like these too: Alexi, Zephyr Mage, Diplomatic Escort, Silverglade Pathfinder, Go for the Throat (the promo art is also nice), Alluring Siren, Complicate, Fauna Shaman, Meren of Clan Nel Toth, Calming Verse, Song of Freyalise, Sheoldred, Whispering One