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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Oldschool 93/94 Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Bayou

Land — Swamp Forest

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Balaam__ on

5 months ago

I’ve seen a few DD variations over the years and this looks fairly solid, all the main pieces are accounted for. Bayou would definitely help, but oh boy that price tag. Maybe a card with a Regrowth type effect would be a sideboard consideration, but then again if your opponent knows what he’s doing it would probably be surgically extracted anyway.

ThassaUpYo@ssa on Chasm and Depths Protection

1 year ago

Nice list, khuyler! A couple of suggestions that may be helpful:

You have no way to remove The One Ring should you ever need to when it accumulates too many burden counters. It may make sense to run Chaos Warp, Deglamer, and/or Demand Answers to give you an out if you're in a bind with The Precious, but if you don't have a pressing issue with The One Ring these cards are also very useful on their own.

With all of the landfall and ramp including Scapeshift it could be beneficial to add Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle as well as some additional mountains like Blood Crypt & Stomping Ground (maybe run proxies of Badlands & Taiga). This would allow you to deal a massive amount of damage when Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle and a bunch of additional mountains come into play from Scapeshift, plus Valakut would enable additional landfall damage triggers whenever more mountain(s) ETB while it's out.

Overgrown Tomb and Bayou would be solid additions, too. Have you considered running any of the fetchlands?

Ignoble Hierarch is a great mana dork for Jund.

Crucible of Worlds and Zuran Orb synergize well with Lord Windgrace.

Harrow costs the same and is slightly better than Roiling Regrowth imo since the lands wouldn't enter tapped, though you could run both.

bankrupt_on_selling on Lathril's Dark Elfball

2 years ago

Tear Asunder seems better than Feed the Swarm. Sylvan Library would probably be good in here. Wood Elves would maybe be better than Talisman of Resilience being able to get Overgrown Tomb or Bayou on top of adding to your elf synergy.

sylvannos on Pattern Recognition #276 - Eternal …

2 years ago

This article is blaming players for problems caused by WotC. There's nothing really stopping them from printing cards that are staples for older formats other than the secondary market. Players only play Modern and EDH because those formats are accessible compared to Legacy and Vintage, which are largely suffocated by the Reserve List. Even EDH feels that. There's a major difference between a deck using Golgari Guildgate and basic Forests vs. the deck using Bayou and Gaea's Cradle.

You're also not considering another reason people don't want formats that rotate: a lot of older formats aren't solved. Standard often becomes a solved format in a matter of weeks, if not days. Extended didn't have this problem because the card pool was large enough. There wasn't a clear answer as to what the best deck was until U/B Faeries followed by Stoneblade killed the format. People are still trying to figure out what the best deck in Vintage is, despite it being MtG's oldest format. U/R Delver is probably the best deck in Legacy, but Delver isn't as dominating as Grixis Control is right now in Standard.

There's an easy solution to these problems, which is switch from a TCG model to something else (like a Living Card Game) or change how people buy product. Imagine if instead of booster boxes, each new set was released as pre-made cubes that had one copy of each card in the set and each set had enough cards for 8-person Booster Draft or 4-person Sealed. Or if they just reprinted the Reserve List with something like the Zendikar expeditions. EDH players would absolutely buy packs if it meant a chance of opening a Tundra or Mox Diamond.

WotC isn't going to do any of that, however, because these solutions don't make as much money as the lottery tickets known as booster packs. They're also not sure what would happen if they got rid of the RL. If they thought it would make them more money than they'd lose, WotC would have pulled the plug a long time ago. So we're just kind of stuck with Modern, EDH, and so on.

Also, I miss Extended :(

Yakuza84 on Old School EDH Old Border Only

2 years ago

I love your idea. Any thoughts how we could upgrade it, even considering more expensive cards? No brainers could be Bayou, Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal, Demonic Tutor or Phyrexian Arena. Maybe also fast mana?

Fluggleshmuggits on Cube Eternal

2 years ago

Changelog 12/10/22

Original Dual lands are in
2 color man lands are in
upgrades in every color and almost every guild pair

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Ardees on Gates? Nine Fingers Keene Competitive

2 years ago

If you are aiming at 'competitive' in the technical sense of the term (as in 'cEDH' or 'competitive EDH'), like the title seems to suggest, I see many staples missing that unfortunately make the deck quite far from being competitive.

Artifacts: you should be running at least Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox, Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, Arcane Signet, Mana Vault, Jeweled Lotus, maybe even Grim Monolith and Lion's Eye Diamond.,

Tutors: you are missing Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal, and Worldly Tutor and Green Sun's Zenith if you run any combo, win, or strategy whatsoever based on creatures. You could also add Wishclaw Talisman and Solve the Equation, and, although not a tutor, Peer into the Abyss, which works quite nicely with Thought Vessel.

Lands: any competitive deck plays true duals, namely Underground Sea, Bayou, and Tropical Island. Same for shocklands and at least 6-7 fetchlands in a 3-color deck like this one. You could also consider lower the number of lands, depending on whether or not you want to keep the Gate strategy

Protection: any competitive deck that plays blue automatically plays top-end counterspells, namely Swan Song, Arcane Denial, Force of Will, Force of Negation, Pact of Negation, Fierce Guardianship, Mental Misstep, An Offer You Can't Refuse, and Flusterstorm. You are also missing key cards like Cyclonic Rift or Chain of Vapor. Needless to say, ideally a competitive deck playing blue also plays Timetwister: not a counterspell but a must card (yeah, the price is another topic of conversation).

Creatures: I understand the Gate theme but you are missing some high-value creature cards in here, most notably Dauthi Voidwalker, Malevolent Hermit  Flip, Lotus Cobra, Azusa, Lost but Seeking, Tatyova, Benthic Druid, Ramunap Excavator, Dryad of the Ilysian Grove, Oracle of Mul Daya, Elvish Reclaimer - to name a few. Much depends on the strategy of your deck, although don't let keywords aligned with your strategy (e.g. 'Gate') fool you into thinking some cards are good for that.

Enchantments: a few staples in the current competitive meta: Rhystic Study, Mystic Remora, Sylvan Library, Burgeoning, Exploration, maybe Abundance and Necropotence

Removals: you could most definitely swap some of your removals for something better and more competitive, such as Force of Vigor, Nature's Claim, Abrupt Decay, Assassin's Trophy, and more.

Now, I totally understand there is a budget situation going on with upgrading to competitive MtG (spoiler alert: MtG is a pay-to-win type of game, research confirms), but generally the term 'competitive' sticks to decks that, to the very least, include most if not all cards mentioned above - without mentioning the fact that any competitive deck needs running at least one winning combo. At this stage, your level is more looking towards casual. This isn't to criticize you or anything of course, pretty interesting build, just not really a competitive deck in its strict sense.

If you want to try the competitive experience, my suggestion is to proxy cards by printing them online - this should cost around 10 bucks on colored and good quality paper, and effectively save you more than 7k worth of cards.

amarthaler on EDH Jorn, God of Winter

2 years ago

Update!

Out: 20 total cards! 1. Time of Ice, 2. Muldrotha, the Gravetide, 3. Iceberg Cancrix, 4. The Tarrasque, 5. Time of Ice, 6. Emergent Ultimatum, 7. Glittering Frost, 8. Boreal Outrider, 9. Faceless Haven, 10. Shimmerdrift Vale, 11. Avalanche Caller, 12. Frostwalk Bastion, 13. Coldsteel Heart, 14. Fabled Passage, 15. Opulent Palace, 16. Tropical Island, 17. Underground Sea, 18. Bayou, 19. Birds of Paradise, 20. Village Rites

In: 20 total cards! 1. Primal Rage, 2. Winged Boots, 3. Darksteel Plate, 4. Panglacial Wurm, 5. Sundial of the Infinite, 6. Diabolic Vision, 7. Inventors' Fair, 8. Thespian's Stage, 9. Boreal Centaur, 10. Hailstorm Valkyrie, 11. Druid Class, 12. Expedition Map, 13. Thing in the Ice  Flip, 14. Glorious Sunrise, and 2x Snow Forest, 3x Snow Island, 1x Snow Swamp

With this new design, we're looking to keep Jorn alive longer and deal more damage. There's also more ways to summon Marit Lage and pump up snow creatures. The mana base is smoothed out with more snow lands, and more card draw / ramp cards. Let me know what you think of the new brew!

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