Tooth and Nail
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Tooth and Nail Discussion
3 weeks ago
Goldbloodedsf I do enjoy Tooth and Nail antics, but I think devoting extra slots to creatures will hurt my Collected Conjuring chances too much. On a side note, I can't believe I forgot to put the lands in. Kinda embarrassing, since I've cycled this a couple times already
1 month ago
Gorgeous, very cool deck. Definitely a +1 from me. I have some cards you might want to try, but they are pretty much just gravy:
1 month ago
FYI to @jexicanwrestler and the Op, Tooth and Nail into Avenger of Zendikar+Craterhoof Behemoth/Purphoros, God of the Forge are the strongest easiest combos for tokens/damage in Windgrace even without T&N.
2 months ago
I tend to playnot so many Walters. But one I really like for dinosaur strategies is Samut, the Tested. If you can protect her, the +1 can win games if you have at least one Big attacker. The -2 is great value with Enrage triggers. And if you ever get to the ultimate, you might find that Tooth and Nail becomes better when it can go for walkers, as well.
3 months ago
unwucht, Carpet of Flowers should be a great way to make the deck faster and provide an over abundance of mana to empty into one of our sinks, most specifically Finale of Devastation. BTW I cut the Forest and replaced it with Dryad Arbor. So if we roll out an early Tooth and Nail that isn’t quite ready for Craterhoof Behemoth/Avenger of Zendikar, we can grab Emiel the Blessed/Dockside Extortionist for infinite mana (assuming there are at least 4 enchantments/artifacts on your opponent’s field). This will give us the win with a fetch grabbing the Dryad. Assuming it checked out, I had a turn 4 win with that combo in testing. Also, Chromatic Orrery has won me over in testing and will become a permanent in my list. Normally I’d say the card is too expensive and not worth the add, but it is so easy to get out by turn 4-5. Plus, I’ve known people to spend the same amount of mana into a Zendikar Resurgent and to me I feel like I get more out of the orrery.
3 months ago
3 months ago
Sorry for the delay with this post, and the pending update. My wife and I just welcomed a new addition to our home, so needless to say things have been a bit busy. I will also be moving to a new house next week so It might be a week or two before I get to the update. For now I will at least give you my thought on the comments, as well as the deck changes that I have landed on!
I think I will start with the changes that you will see in the update because that is the core of the conversation right now.
Force of Vigor OUT FOR Ancient Greenwarden - Although removing Force is going to upset some people, I have been generally underwhelmed by the card. Sure, free removal sounds great but I generally play this deck in a turbo aggressive way. Sure, Force might be a better card, but doesn't really follow the way I have constructed the deck.
Return of the Wildspeaker OUT FOR Valakut Exploration - This appears to be a clean card-draw upgrade to me. Although this new inclusion might not be the great card draw in the deck, I do think I will feel right at home here.
Steely Resolve OUT FOR Nahiri's Lithoforming - With this update the deck will now have 17 total creatures, and 4 different cards to tutor them out. With that being said, Steely Resolve has turned into a dead card next to Sylvan Safekeeper, who can be tutored out very easily. Adding in Nahiri's Lithoforming was a no-brainer to me. Sure, it is a "bad" Scapeshift, that still makes is a really good card.
Ranger's Path OUT FOR Three Visits - I know, about time! The only complaint I expect to hear is why I didn't cut Migration Path instead. The simple answer is because I think the added cycle is better then being able to find my non-basics. Shoot me lol.
Myriad Landscape OUT FOR Field of the Dead - Another overdue change. The value behind a hoard of "free" expendable tokens is just nuts. Whoever at Wizards though it would be ok to put this kind of value on a land has my thanks!
Mountain OUT FOR Snow-Covered Mountain - Goes along with adding Field of the Dead. I don't see the need to split the count of basics in half, all that Field cares about is have different names, and this deck ramps out basics enough that finding the snows will never be a problem.
Perilous Forays OUT FOR Moraug, Fury of Akoum/Valakut Awakening Flip - Easily the biggest controversy right now. I think I can fairly say that no card in this deck has more of a conflicting argument on both sides of cutting and keeping a card in the deck then Perilous Forays. Some people wonder why it has lasted in my list so long, while others are baffled by the fact that I am removing it. That being said, I will give you my opinion this "iconic" Om_rath card. First, it is a sac outlet in a color combo that has few. Although this argument has merit, that is not why the card was in the deck. The reason the card stayed so long was the "feel good" of being able to sac Om_rath tokens over and over again while netting more and more tapped basic lands. The christmas land is when either Lotus Cobra or Amulet of Vigor were in play! Although I pulled this off a few times, it rarely won me a game. Second, the spell cost 5 cmc. This is the biggest draw back for me, it is a 5cmc spell that does nothing for me until I have 2-4 other cards in play. Third, paying 1 mana for the sac ability nerfs that card considerably. Yes, it would be broken if it was free, but there are plenty of free sac outlets that cost less mana. All of this being said, Perilous Forays is sitting the bench and is being slotted in as my playtesting spot. Essentially I like the look of both Moraug, Fury of Akoum and Valakut Awakening Flip, but I am not in love with either on the surface. And before anyone else say it, no I do not think I can take out a land for Valakut Awakening Flip, mainly because it cannot be fetched out. Moraug, Fury of Akoum seems amazing on the surface, but the deck has mainly stepped away from winning through combat. Ill let you know how testing turns out!
With all of this being said, Zendikar Rising has been an amazing set for us! The main problem is that the deck list is insanely tight now! Making cuts in the future is going to be a real headache! Also, the creature count is reaching a record number for us! If Wizards gives us a couple more creatures it might be worth considering different cards. Also, many of you likely noticed that I decided not to cut Genesis Wave, it has won me far to many games, and you guys talked me out of it haha.
Now for some of the comments that I didn't already address with my deck changes.
BenWin: I have to be honest, the Sekki, Seasons' Guide combo does not interest me at all. I don't like combos that include dead cards when you draw into them. I also am not a big fan of infinite combos, and my meta isn't either. Nevertheless, I definitely this the combo is powerful and you should add it to your list if it is your thing!
I think Skullclamp thrives more in decks that make small creatures that die on equipping. Having to rely on another card makes it much weaker.
Sylvan Scrying likely won't be coming back. Sure, is is nice to find Cradle, but I don't need it to win the game, or any other land for that matter. I have almost considered removing more non-basics to increase to total basic land in the deck. I haven't gotten to that point get though.
This might cause an uproar, but Sensei's Divining Top is overrated in my opinion. It is amazing in the right deck, but way to many people play it as the greatest draw card ever (maybe it is for Red and White decks). I have taken mine out of most of my decks and been trading them away at their overpriced $50 price tag little by little lol.
Daedalus19876: The Ashaya, Soul of the Wild combo falls under the same concept as the Sekki, Seasons' Guide combo for me. I think you could easily turn this deck into the Tooth and Nail and I win deck, but that is not what I am really aiming for here. If you build that type of deck fill free to post it here and share! I would definitely like to see how that looks!
_Arra_: I think Lithoform Engine is a good card an all, but not at all what this deck wants. This deck thrives off of the mass amount of triggers and activations we get, and doubling a single one will really not do much for us. All we need to do instead is pay an additional land.
TraceT: I actually do think Scute Swarm is right at home in this deck, but is unfortunately under the power threshold to even be considered for this build. I say play it if you think it would be fun and let us know how it goes! the same kind of goes for Impact Tremors, the right deck, but not quite powerful enough.
I think I got to everyone's comments! I will make sure to post the update ASAP. I start packing for the move tomorrow and should be all settled by next Sunday. Until then please let me know what you think about the upcoming changes, and I am grateful for all the support!
3 months ago
Wild Pair is a very sweet card, for sure! My considerations are that it is at quite hefty CMC, so the trick is to make use out of it in the same turn it was cast. So, whatever you replace with it, it should be something that does not enable you to combo off at the same turn, as well. This is why I personally preferr Tooth and Nail. I prefer my deck to enable explosive turns over constantly putting threats on the board at a steady rythm without reliably being able to make use of it in the same turn.