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Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, you may destroy target artifact or enchantment.
1 week ago
Hey Lissmain, thanks for your upvote and question. I haven't been able to play this deck yet, but I'll try to answer your questions.
- I don't think I have any mill decks in my meta, so I haven't been in that situation with any of my decks I think... If that was something I'd face regularly, then I'd try to include more recursion (perhaps Sun Titan and Serra Paragon) or maybe even a way to get my graveyard back into my library.
- My plan with this deck for grindy games is to get Field of the Dead out and copy it with Vesuva and/or Thespian's Stage. That will generate so much value in a grindy game and is very resistant to board wipes. Scute Swarm can be even more effective. Another way is to get a recurring interaction piece in play to control the board, so Aura Fracture, Aura Shards or Thorn Mammoth.
Hope this answers your questions.
2 months ago
Since you're in casual, there's a lot of heavy hitting cards you could add (budget permitting). Doubling Season improves the turnaround rate of spore counters and gets you more tokens, although it is itself expensive. Something cheaper with proliferate like Evolution Sage could accomplish a similar goal. Aura Shards is a potent alternative to single-use Naturalizes for Selesnya, with Nullmage Shepherd being a more budget pick. Skullclamp is an insane draw engine if you keep your tokens at 1 toughness. Or if you don't want to, Intangible Virtue can stack with Sporecrown Thallids to get out of hand quickly. As far as creating tokens, there's Aura Mutation, Dreampod Druid, Fungal Sprouting, Korozda Guildmage, Saproling Migration, Thelonite Hermit, and the powerful lord Tendershoot Dryad. If you want generically good Golgari removal, cards like Assassin's Trophy and Fatal Push tend to see a lot of play. Personally, I like Crippling Fear for tribal decks and Tragic Slip for decks with sacrifice synergy. Speaking of sacrifices, I know from experience in commander that both Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest and Ghave, Guru of Spores make for nasty combos with Mycoloth. Such a strategy would also make creatures like Tukatongue Thallid more valuable than spell counterparts like Sprout or Fungal Infection.
2 months ago
So as a bit of a follow up from your forum post about tapped lands, I thought I would leave a comment here which will hopefuilly give you some insights into what I was talking about.
Looking at your list, your average CMC is (at the time of writing this) 3.85, which is rather high. But on top of that, if you look at hte shaper of the curve, you'll see that the deck is very light on before 3 CMC. This means that the deck doesn't really have much to do in the first few turns of the game which then means it's slower when you're trying to play bigger threats late game. Not to mention you're running a bunch of counterspells which in turn slows down your plays. Additionally, you have cards like Seedborn Muse and Murkfiend Liege which both thrive on playing as many sources that you can tap for mana as possible.
Then on top of that, you're running enough anthem effects (as well effects that put +1/+1 counters on creatures), meaning that lat game you can actually turn things like mana dorks into quite substantially threatening creatures. Combine this with the fact that you're running 38 lands, you could cut some of the more 'bait cards' from your deck as well as one or two lands (36 will be enough if you can pull your mana curve down) and add a few additional dorks. On top of that, you're using cards like Aura Shards which heavily rely on having lots of creatures to play. With only 25 creatures in your deck (which is not a high number), aura shards wil ldo less work overall than something like Return to Nature as Shards has more chance of being blown up before you even get to use it. Or you sit on it until you draw an additional creature which undermines its function.
Adding cards like Birds of Paradise, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Llanowar Elves and Noble Hierarch will help provide you with turn 1 plays which will in turn give you access to bigger creatures faster, meaning less reliance on playing stall cards while you establish a foothold. Additionally, cards like Rishkar, Peema Renegade will synergise nicely with both untap effects and +1/+1 counter effects. Cards like Thran Dynamo here are a trap - you have a lot of very hard costed cards and honestly this would do much more work as either something like Cultivate or Nature's Lore / Farseek. No, it's not as much mana but it's not colourless mana and again, it's ramp that's not competing with beaters for the same CMC.
Teferi is basically a better Vedalken Orrery as he has flash himself. Replacing Orrery with something like Eladamri's Call will add much more value to the deck, as you can get Teferi if you want flash but can get you a beater if you want something else.
Cards like Bow of Nylea will also do more work here than Elixir of Immortality. It gives you the same life triggers, but also leans into the theme of the deck much more. And unlike Elixir, bow can be used over and over. Don't get me wrong, I really like Elixir, but I find it's much more relevant in decks that want to play combo draw loops (think infinite mana Thrasios, Triton Hero).
If it's within your price range, cards like Dragonlord Dromoka are straight up going to do much more work than Treva, the Renewer. Treva's ability gains life, yes, but it constantly requires mana input and then requires you to have a boardstate, which puts it in the win-more category. Dromoka is just a really hard to stop beater and defends you on your turns. Additionally, if you're going to add non-lifelink lifegain effects, you probably want something you can activate over and over for small chunks of life rather than one big hit, as this synergises better with Archangel of Thune. Remember, lifegain for the sake of ligefain is usually not that good - you want to do something with said life so leaning into synergistic effects will help make the deck stronger overall.
Anyway, that's some thoughts on it. I can talk to the points more if you have questions however this should be a good starting point. As with all this advice as well, you have to build your deck how you want to, however there are some defininte things you can do to amke your deck a lot faster while still holding onto the same spirit of the deck.
2 months ago
Mirror Entity Not ideal for this deck
Emeria Shepherd Not sure this recursion is worth it here
Aura Shards Not enough creatures come out for it to help much
Glorious Sunrise Might try this one later but for now I want trample through equipment
Heavenly Blademaster Was put in as a backup plan but expensive to bring out
Ardenn, Intrepid Archaeologist Equip for free!
Sigarda's Aid Equip for free (and instantly)!
Basilisk Collar Who doesn't like cheap Deathtouch and Lifelink?
Belt of Giant Strength This could give a quick +8/+8 to Catti-brie of Mithral Hall
Bloodforged Battle-Axe Cheap to cast and equip, and makes copies for more equip counters
2 months ago
Xtough - Thanks for the compliment and upvote. Always nice to have some feedback!
You are not wrong about the deck struggling when the opponents sets up Ghostly Prison or even worse, multiple of those kind of cards as the deck does struggle against heavy artifact/enchantment decks. Dinos just do not have the best removal for those which is sad.
The thing I love about Kinjalli's Caller is how it speeds up the deck. Dropping it on turn 1 allows me to cast 3 CMC dinos on turn 2 and speed is something dinosaurs need as they usually are pretty expensive. Dropping Kinjalli's Caller for either of those two would essentially push me back one or two turns as Atzocan Seer and Drover of the Mighty would fill...similar rolls but are just more expensive.
Atzocan Seer has a little more upside with the graveyard yank but at 3 CMC, it is a high price to pay for what you get. I talked with Radiant_Draconis who runs a similar themed deck (Prehistoric Rumble!) about Atzocan Seer as he used to be in that deck and that helped me rule him out.
Is Aura Shards legal in modern? According to cardhoarder and cardkingdom it is not; otherwise, I would be running maybe 1-2 copies in the deck and adding the rest of the full playset to the SB.
Thanks again for the feedback!
2 months ago
Hi lhetrick13 Nice deck :) and may life find its way... Considering the struggle with Propaganda maybe you can think of Atzocan Seer or Drover of the Mighty instead of Kinjalli's Caller, they have a dinosaur theme, survive enrage trigger and have the same effect as the caller if you cast 1 big boy per round, but they can pay other costs as well as they provide mana. As you are using WG and cast creatures regularly Aura Shards may be worth a look. Happy stomping!
5 months ago
Long post, sorry -- but hopefully some insights to help you out here. At very least some stuff to mull over & consider:
When I first started playing many, many moons ago - yes a straight 60 card build was by far the most optimal.
Anymore though, there's so many ways to ramp and draw cards for each color in Legacy that if your deck can reliably draw at least a few extra cards per game, you may not be out of place with slightly more. Consider also that while there are loads of new draw options, Draw actually works against you somewhat if you're playing against a mill deck (these are fairly common in most playgroups, not sure about yours specifically). You don't want to be clutching to a 60-card build counting on drawing tons of cards only to find yourself at a real mill disadvantage.
Aiming for 60 cards is good I'd say, but most of my decks anymore end up slightly over as well. So long as you're not going 10, 15, 20 cards over the 60 card minimum, I don't think there's a ton of danger here.
As far as what to remove...well there's stuff I'd definitely change out as time/cash flow allows. That little Avacyn's Pilgrim and Llanowar Elves should just be another copy of Gilded Goose for this build imo; as not only can you achieve the same effect off the Goose, but it plays into your token-creation synergy as well much, much better. Also, the Geese will turn all of your other Food-creation into (effectively) double treasure tokens (not just those they create themselves) -- this will help you get your higher mana cost combo cards into play sooner if you're able to use some of your early food for Mana along with your Treasures rather than just eating it for life.
Kind of the same deal with Birds of Paradise -- you should drop both of these, the Llanowars, and the lonely pilgrim and just run 4x Gilded Goose. That'd save you 2 card slots at least.
Secure the Wastes is definitely the more solid option later on in the game, but all the more reason you would want to save these until you've got more mana to pump into them off Lands/Creatures. Stuff like Raise the Alarm is a very useful 2-mana drop that isn't wasting something that could be more of a finisher later on with all your doubling stuff out. These early blockers can help you avoid eating Food early on for Life, and won't force you to block with your Geese to avoid a creature that's, say, pumped up for a turn. They also scale well if drawn late-game in conjunction with your doubling stuff. Again, not as insanely as Secure the Wastes, but more cards with that effect overall I think would play very well here.
Aura Shards is certainly awesome under the right circumstances, but I think this is more of a Sideboard addition. There are plenty of deck types which would be either completely or mostly immune to this -- and at 3 Mana to cast, you'd better be sure you're going to be using it during the game -- else you'd have been better off just taking them out and drawing something else in their place. You could probably remove a couple of these and simply add them to the Sideboard to use on a case-by-case basis. I don't think you'd even necessarily need to "swap" anything for them. 2 extra cards isn't game-breakingly bad to your ratio. Though, maybe having actually played the deck you have a better idea on this & can maybe save some card slots here too by swapping them in/out after all.
Otherwise, looks pretty solid to me. Without building it and playing it myself I can't really say for sure one way or another how best to optimize your existing combo cards. Anyways -- good luck!
5 months ago
- Aura Shards + Mirari's Wake + Faeburrow Elder + Knight of Autumn + Knight of New Alara Eladamri's Call + Wildfield Borderpost
- Bard Class + Cindervines + Huntmaster of the Fells Flip + Klothys, God of Destiny + Radha, Heart of Keld + Xenagos, God of Revels + Decimate + Dire-Strain Rampage + Escape to the Wilds + Hull Breach + Firewild Borderpost
- Binding the Old Gods + Leyline Prowler + Windgrace's Judgment + Vraska, Golgari Queen + Culling Ritual + Maelstrom Pulse
- Hidetsugu Consumes All Flip + Kardur, Doomscourge + Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger + Olivia, Crimson Bride + Orcus, Prince of Undeath + Kolaghan's Command + Rakdos Charm + Dreadbore + Veinfire Borderpost
- Baleful Strix + Hostage Taker + Mistvein Borderpost
- Coiling Oracle + Rootcoil Creeper + Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath + Growth Spiral + Tamiyo, Collector of Tales + Bring to Light + Croaking Counterpart
- Elite Guardmage + Niambi, Esteemed Speaker + Soulherder + Faithful Mending + Fieldmist Borderpost
- General Ferrous Rokiric + Aurelia's Fury + Wear / Tear + Deafening Clarion + Solar Blaze
- Izzet Staticaster + Prismari Command + Expressive Iteration
- Despark + Fracture + Inkshield + Kaya's Guile + Merciless Eviction
- Fires of Invention + Ignoble Hierarch + Sylvan Caryatid + Blasphemous Act + Demonic Tutor + Farseek + Arcane Signet + Chromatic Lantern + Coalition Relic + Commander's Sphere + Panharmonicon + Tome of the Guildpact + Urza's Filter