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, Pay 1 life, Sacrifice Bloodstained Mire: Search your library for a Swamp or Mountain card and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.
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Bloodstained Mire Discussion
6 days ago
you certainly don't want Anger of the Gods in a creature based deck. the only creatures here that even survive it are the ones that aren't even minotaurs. Rakdos's Return isn't very good either. 3 mana to make an opponent discard a card and take 1 damage is a horrible exchange. theres lots of better removal you could be using like Lightning Bolt , Terminate , Fatal Push , or Cast Down . you can upgrade your lands with fetchlands like Bloodstained Mire and checklands like Dragonskull Summit . Felhide Petrifier combos really well with Rageblood Shaman . if an attacking creature has both deathtouch and trample, you only need to assign 1 damage to each blocker before the rest can be
Flooremoji on Dimill
1 week ago
My sugestions are to:
Cut the Non-Ashiok Pwks. They are two slow.
Cut All of your creatures.
Cut your Enchantments.
Cut Your Instants.
Cut 1 land.
This gives you 27 free slots.
To fill them up:
4x Hedron Crab ,
4x Visions of Beyond ,
4x Archive Trap ,
2x Crypt Incursion ,
2x Surgical Extraction ,
2x Mission Briefing ,
3x Fatal Push ,
3x Ensnaring Bridge ,
2x Mesmeric Orb .
The lands can be upgraded as follows:
You can add 1x Bloodstained Mire ,
2x Darkslick Shores ,
3x Field of Ruin ,
2x Flooded Strand ,
4x Polluted Delta ,
2x Shelldock Isle ,
and 2x Watery Grave .
If you want cheaper upgrades, ask me for some budget replacements :)
Another good thing to do to upgrade you decks is to look at similar decks without buget restrictions so you can see what sort of cards the decks play.
1 week ago
Purtle Thank you for the suggestion! Prismatic Vista might be an option if they go down in price, but right now they are only about 5 or 6 dollars less than Bloodstained Mire and I would rather just spend a little more to have those.
1 week ago
Either of these would fit the theme of your deck better and would assist you in casting and running the deck.
Altar of the Brood - Doesn't fit what you're doing and doesn't assist in your goal
Ghostfire Blade - Not good enough. You're running Eldrazi. They're big enough and powerful enough to take care of themselves
Mycosynth Lattice - This doesn't help you. Most of your stuff is colorless so this only helps your opponents cast spells and places a glaring weakness that a card like Vandalblast can easily exploit.
Bonds of Mortality - You're running annihilator and massive creatures. You're rarely worried about the occasional hexproof creature, and you shouldn't have an issue with the occasional enchantment or artifact. Eldrazi overwhelm. Don't sweat the small stuff.
Prismatic Omen - This doesn't help you enough. Most of your stuff is colorless so this doesn't do a crazy amount for you. In addition, you're running Chromatic Lantern which will do this and also produces mana on top of it.
Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver - Why? This has nothing to do with your deck
Despark - There are better removal options, but as an eldrazi tribal deck you'd be better off playing cards that protect and accelerate you rather than this.
Wear / Tear - While decent, you don't usually need to hit both at once and it's multiple colors. I'd run Naturalize or Krosan Grip instead.
Fathom Feeder - ...No. Just no.
Mist Intruder - While this and Fathom Feeder are both eldrazi, just because you're running a tribal deck doesn't mean you have to run every tribal card, nor only tribal cards. Cut this and see my suggestions for cards to replace it with.
Khenra Charioteer - There are better alternatives
Vile Aggregate - You're running eldrazi. You're going tall rather than wide so you're unlikely to ever really have enough creatures out at once to really make this card worth running.
Bojuka Bog - Not worth it. It comes out tapped and unless someone is both running a graveyard deck and has enough good cards in it at the same time, you're not going to get enough value out of this, or if you want to save it for that, then you have a dead land in hand and there would be far better cards like Rest in Peace and such.
Gateway Plaza - Comes in tapped, costs an additional mana to play, and only gives one mana. Too slow and not good enough.
Ruins of Oran-Rief - You're running Eldrazi. You really don't need one more +1/+1. A colored mana would assist you more here as it would also help you pay for and colored spells you would like to cast.
Akroma's Memorial - This is a fantastic card that in your deck would be a win con. I would recommend running this over Eldrazi Monument as it does a lot more and doesn't force you to sacrifice your important eldrazi.
Privileged Position - An absolutely amazing card that I run in every deck that can run it. Full protection on ALL your permanents.
Sterling Grove - Protection for all your enchantments and allows you to fetch any that you need.
Krosan Grip - Guaranteed removal on artifacts or enchantments.
Ramos, Dragon Engine - You're running a five colored big boy deck. This enables it and since it's colorless it'll be relatively easy for you to cast.
Archetype of Endurance - Fantastic protection and a powerful creature to run. As a plus it fulfills some of the same roles as the cards you ran that removed hexproof.
Archetype of Aggression - Replaces your Khenra Charioteer as a much better, single color, alternative.
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth - Great card draw, annihilator, reshuffles your graveyard which prevents mill and keeps your deck running even after a board wipe, and a giant eldrazi god, all built into one card.
Kozilek, the Great Distortion - Card draw, counter protection, and a menacing eldrazi god. Who could ask for more?
Emrakul, the Promised End - Reduced costs, protection, flying, trample, steals a turn, and an eldrazi god. Nuff said.
Temur Ascendancy - Replaces or in addition to Fervor . Haste plus card draw and your creatures are almost all going to trigger it.
Demonic Tutor - Fantastic fetch card.
Vampiric Tutor - Fantastic fetch card.
Harsh Mercy - Tribal board wipe
Explosive Vegetation - Land fetch
Skyshroud Claim - Land fetch that comes in untapped. If you upgrade your landbase to include cards like Breeding Pool (see recommendations lower), you can use this and cards like Nature's Lore to fetch them and bring them in untapped.
Patriarch's Bidding - Full board wipe recovery, and/or a kill card if you have a haste enabler on the board.
Heroic Intervention - Top Tier instant speed protection.
Teferi's Protection - Top Tier instant speed protection
Cyclonic Rift - One of the best board wipes in the game. Cannot be protected against, reset's their entire board, and leaves you in a fantastic position.
Enlightened Tutor - Artifact/Enchantment Fetch
Worldly Tutor - Creature Fetch
Mystical Tutor - Instant/Sorcery Fetch
Urza's Incubator - Eldrazi cost reduction
Descendants' Path - Free Eldrazi casts
Rhystic Study - Fantastic card draw
Bloom Tender - In a 5-color deck this card is amazing ramp.
Birds of Paradise - Any color ramp for 1
Ugin, the Spirit Dragon - Does this require explanation in a colorless deck?
Beast Within - Destroys any permanent. This is a fantastic card to run as a mere 3/3 beast shouldn't bother you, and even if it would, it's likely far better than what they previously had.
Chaos Warp - Removes any permanent. Can be used on your own stuff to pull a new permanent out of your deck if needed. Bypasses indestructible.
See the Unwritten - Need I say more?
Tooth and Nail - Need I say more?
Exploration - Amazing ramp. Accelerates your turns
Burgeoning - See Exploration
Mana Reflection - The best mana doubler, bar none.
Zendikar Resurgent - Mana doubler plus card draw
Smothering Tithe - One of the best ramp cards
Oracle of Mul Daya - Fantastic acceleration. Combines with other accelerators such as Exploration and Burgeoning as they can now play lands off the top of your library as well.
Second Sunrise - Full boardwipe recovery
Defense of the Heart - Easy free creature drops
Mirari's Wake - Mana doubler plus anthem
Faith's Reward - Full, personal, boardwipe recovery
Seedborn Muse - One of the best cards you can run, bar none.
Commander's Sphere - 3 drop mana rock that can tap for all colors. Replaces your banners (ex. Vanquisher's Banner )
Darksteel Ingot - 3 drop indestructible mana rock that can tap for all colors. Replaces your banners (ex. Vanquisher's Banner )
Recommended Land Additions/Swaps:
Cavern of Souls
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - Mana coverage, allows your fetch and colorless lands to tap for colored if they need
Cabal Coffers - Combines with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth to generates metric butt tons of mana
Fetch lands and shock lands are fantastic upgrades to your deck. Fetch lands let you pull the exact lands you need and let them come in untapped, and shock lands can both be fetched because they say the actual land type (ex. Breeding Pool is a Forest Island), and can come in untapped or tapped depending on what you need. Coming in untapped and generating multiple colors gives a distinct advantage over mono-colored lands and lands that must come in tapped.
Eldrazi Monument - Hurts you too much and doesn't generate enough benefit. If you can't get a weak creature out in time, or don't have one available, you'll either have a dead card in hand that you don't want to cast, or one that hurts you badly. If you want indestructible, look at cards like Boros Charm or Heroic Intervention .
From Beyond - Too slow and doesn't do enough.
A tribal deck isn't limited to only cards of its tribe, but rather is mostly one tribe and has several cards that accelerate and power up the tribe. Hence my recommendation is that you cut a few of the weaker cards that are unnecessary and instead run a few non-tribal cards that strengthen, accelerate, and assist your deck.
1 week ago
Okay, the easyest ways to upgrade this deck are:
This frees up fourteen slots.
To fill them I would add:
4x Undead Augur
Other (expensive) options:
Gravecrawler is great, but after it spiked, it might be a little to expensive. If you ever do add Gravecrawler , Carrion Feeder is insane. Tidehollow Sculler is one of the best zombies, but without expensive lands, it might not be the right fit.
Thoughtseize : Although you probably don't want to play Inquisition, Sculler and Thoughtseize , they are all good cards. Blood Moon compleatly shuts down some decks, while mostly leaving red decks intact. Leyline of the Void is A+ Sideboard Material, and is always a good cards to play in the 15.
Bloodstained Mire , Polluted Delta , Blackcleave Cliffs and Blood Crypt are all staples of R/B manabases, because of the fetchlands ability to fetch Blood Crypt . Because of this, they are at a crazy price right now, but they are the best.
1 week ago
The manabase challenge is that the deck really wants B or R on Turn 1, BB by Turn 3, and W by Turn 3 (postboard). Based on Frank Karsten's classic article on manabases, this means we need should be running 19x B sources, 14x R sources, and 12x W sources. The current 18-Land configuration is actually a little shy ... it only gives us 18x B sources, 14x R sources, and 11x W sources.
Good places to save some money are with ...
- Blackcleave Cliffs : Cards like Sulfurous Springs (or Mana Confluence and Gemstone Mine , if you already have them) aren't as good (especially in longer games where the lifeloss will add up, and we'll eventually lose the Mine), but at least they won't slow the deck down any.
- Fetchlands: The deck needs 8x Black fetchlands but any of them will work. Polluted Delta , Bloodstained Mire , Marsh Flats , and Verdant Catacombs can all fetch a Blood Crypt or a Godless Shrine just fine, so feel free to mix and match whith whatever is least expensive/whatever you might already have. Of note, the Fetches serve double-duty in the deck, as they are GREAT for recurring Bloodghast.
- Godless Shrine : The deck needs at least 1x (so we can find W with a Fetchland), but now that I take a hard look at it, I think Concealed Courtyard might actually be better here.
Adding Basics will make the early turns much more inconsistent (or cause additional mulligans), and adding checklands (e.g., Dragonskull Summit )/reveal lands (e.g., Foreboding Ruins ) will slow the deck down on early turns (or cause additional mulligans). I'm not honestly sure how bad the effect is going to be, especially once the London Mulligan kicks in ...
Good luck ... budget brewing is REALLY tough, and I wish I could help more!
Having Creature-based Enchantment/Artifact removal is better in this deck than Instant-based because we can sac' the Creature for value with the Evoke trigger on the stack, it counts towards Vengevine 's triggered ability, it gets around Chalice of the Void on 1 (if we were on Nature's Claim ) or 2 (if we were on Assassin's Trophy ), and it provides a 1/3 beater with evasion. The only exception I can think of is vs. Karn, the Great Creator + Mycosynth Lattice , where we sometimes wish we could float mana and kill the Lattice at Instant-speed.
Of note, this plan also gives us "extra" sideboard slots, because we can use Flamekin Harbinger as Wispmare numbers 4-5. Flamekin is especially amazing in the Mirror, since it can grab a Mare if they have Leyline of the Void in their opener and Vengevine if they don't,
1 week ago
most things that your opponent will use to target Phantasmal Image are things that would kill it anyway, so thats not really an issue. being able to copy any stackable sliver effect is huge though. as for the rainbow lands, you shouldn't have too many of those anyway. i use Sedge Sliver and Collected Company in my build as well, and almost never have trouble getting blue for Phantasmal Image . maybe it'd be easier for me to explain if i just list my manabase.
4x Bloodstained Mire 4x Polluted Delta 1x Godless Shrine 1x Overgrown Tomb 1x Blood Crypt 1x Watery Grave 1x Stomping Ground 1x Breeding Pool 1x Steam Vents 4x Sliver Hive 1x Mountain 1x Forest 1x Island 1x Plains 1x Swamp
thats 24 lands. 12 of which can produce/fetch for green, 13 of which are or fetch for a swamp, and 12 of which produce/fetch for blue. and thats before taking into account that Manaweft Sliver can make blue, or you can just Aether Vial / Collected Company the Phantasmal Image into play.
2 weeks ago
fetchlands go and grab the shockland, essentially acting as extra copies. so instead of just 4 Hallowed Fountain , you run that plus 4 Flooded Strand , and essentially have 8 Hallowed Fountain . fetchlands are also quite valuable for decks that run 3 or more colors, because with the right combination of shocklands, any fetchland can be a source of any color of mana. for example, a jund deck can use Bloodstained Mire to get green mana, by searching for either Overgrown Tomb or Stomping Ground
Bloodstained Mire occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.82%
All decks: 1.22%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.18%
WUB (Esper): 0.66%
BRG (Jund): 1.77%
UBR (Grixis): 1.34%
RBW (Mardu): 1.04%
BUG (Sultai): 0.76%