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- Does Eidolon of Rhetoric prevent me from casting Salt Road Patrol and activating the outlast ability?
- If Eidolon of Rhetoric enters the battlefield after my opponent has already cast a spell, can they cast another one?
- Does Splicing a card count as casting a spell?
- Enchantment Creatures
- Golos & Rule of Law
Eidolon of Rhetoric
Enchantment Creature — Spirit
Each player can't cast more than one spell each turn.
Eidolon of Rhetoric Discussion
1 week ago
Very nice deck you got there. Please, allow me to give some input as a fellow cEDH player. First off, I see all stax cards in your deck there is but very few removals. Hence, I kindly would like to share some input on balancing the decks versatility.
Copperhorn Scout doesn't fly, is likely to die and doesn't add much to the deck since you already get to untap with your commander. I would rather suggest to instead add some removal in the form of Ulvenwald Tracker , which adds tremendous values combined with all the untaps
Ethersworn Canonist chances are that your opponents won't play a lot of spells due to Winter Orb ect... and you already got the best one of all ( Eidolon of Rhetoric ), therefore I would rather swap it for some better hate in cEDH which would be Spirit of the Labyrinth
Vryn Wingmare same goes here. I wouldn't play any stax pieces with CMC 3 or higher (too slow and you get better effects for same CMC). For 3 CMC can get Recruiter of the Guard , Eternal Witness , Knight of the Reliquary , Knight of Autumn , Banisher Priest / Fiend Hunter . Note: In your case I would go for removal effects, since you have only Gilded Drake . A Yisan deck would crush yours since it is not affected by stax (since it's a stax deck as well) and would tutor Ulvenwald Tracker and kill all your flyers and dorks.
Archon of Valor's Reach I think this is a classic win-more card which you don't really need to win the game. An alternative would be Gaddock Teeg . However, if you insist on having a high CMC mana drop that completely destroys the game board in your favor, I would like to introduce Willbreaker
Utopia Sprawl / Wild Growth : Since you are a creature deck I would much rather play the remaining mana dorks in order to have more hitters for untap triggers but more importantly, to not be affected by your own stax. Remaining dorks are: Boreal Druid , Priest of Titania ,
Nature's Claim since you are a creature deck and you will be slowing down the game tremendously, I strongly believe that Aura Shards is a better option to go with. It is recurrent and you are very light on removal. What can you do against a Cursed Totem or Humility ?
Tangle Wire I believe you don't really need this stax piece. It's one of the weakest and only holds up a very short time. Instead try for example Nature's Will - this has proven to be quite devastating. Or Living Plane if you seek to lock out all lands of your opponents together with Linvala, Keeper of Silence
Cyclonic Rift seems fine but could also be a win-more card. I presume you would cast this very late in the game and only as an emergency for 2 CMC. Hence, you can ask yourself if this card is really needed to win or if you perhaps would rather have another card that helps to set you up in the early game. I.e. Sylvan Tutor / Fauna Shaman ect...
I hope this was insightful to you. And no, I am not playing Derevi myself ;) But I do actually play a lot against it.
3 weeks ago
1 month ago
Dryad Arbor : This land feels bad when you have it in your opener, but you can get it off Green Sun's Zenith for X = 0. This is a pretty good turn one play, especially with a flipped Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip.
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben : Hatebears are the best way to win in GW, outside combo. Running something like Thalia lets you slow down your opponents; with the mana-advantage from your dorks/general, you're likely to be able to play through it better than your opponents.
Fetches: These are better than Selesnya Guildgate , mainly because they allow you to double-trigger your landfall guys, like Rampaging Baloths and they enable duals, like your Temple Garden or (if you have access to it) Savannah . I like that you're running Windswept Heath ; consider off-colors, like Flooded Strand or Misty Rainforest . If these are too difficult to get ahold of, slow-fetches like Grasslands and Flood Plain are also good. Prismatic Vista , too.
Nature's Revolt / Living Lands : Living Lands is better (as it's four mana), but Nature's Revolt is $200 cheaper... Paired with Linvala, Keeper of Silence , these two produce a hard lock on your opponents. Additionally, paired with Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite , this effect produces instant fun.
Selfless Spirit : This is a good way to avoid a boardwipe wiping you out of the game.
Cataclysm : This is a boardwipe like no other. I suggest running it in any white deck, as it deals with a clogged board real fast. Note that it makes everyone sac all their planeswalkers, as that card-type was not instituted when Cataclysm was printed.
1 month ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help.
Nice upgrade of the precon. Cards to consider cutting to make 100 cards:
- Contagion Engine
- Contagion Clasp
- Righteous Aura
- Seal of the Guildpact
- Helm of the Gods
- Champion's Helm
- Thoughtrender Lamia
Proliferate isn't doing much here except giving you more experience counters and that's not worth it instead play more enchantments to get experience counters?
Consider adding more low mana cost enchantments to get experience counters faster? Flickering Ward is very good because it's one mana enchantment that can be an engine to get experience counters while also protecting Daxos from targeted removal from the color of protection you choose. Also excellent with Mesa as a draw engine. Kaya's Ghostform another one mana enchantment that can help to pseudo protect Daxos by reanimating him when he dies or is exiled. Because Daxos is only three mana and he can be a repeatable source of tokens then consider less creatures? Board wipes that kill all creatures are good with enchantment strategies and with a Commander who can create creatures after a wipe.
Can add enchantments to protect/reanimate Daxos from your own or opponents' board wipes:
Tutors that don't break the bank that can get an aura/enchantment are helpful:
Expanding on enchantments that disrupt your opponents can buy you more time to get experience counters and make Spirits:
Once you have a lot of experience counters then you don't need to really cast lots of enchantments. Can instead utilize Daxos's ability to make creatures without casting them. Which is good with enchantments that only let players play one spell per turn. This disrupts your opponents more than you and in some cases shuts down entire opponent strategies like combos:
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
"play" means "cast as a spell, or put into play as a land". Rule of Law and Eidolon of Rhetoric would both stop you from playing any more than 1 of the cards exiled by Golos, Tireless Pilgrim . and thats if you haven't cast any other spells that turn.
1 month ago
So it's my understanding that "Play" for Golos, Tireless Pilgrim is interchangeable with casting. (from a previous conversation about another similar card I had). So cards played using his activated ability would get cast triggers such as eldrazi or cascade.
1 month ago
I've always liked Oloro, Ageless Ascetic -- he was my first general.
I've always thought Path to Exile is way overrated in EDH. Swords to Plowshares , which I see you've included, is better mainly because it doesn't ramp your opponents. In a format filled with people routinely doing mana-intensive things, I think you'll be better off running something like Ashes to Ashes .
Ponder , Preordain and Brainstorm are three REALLY good cards. Like Xerox decks in Vintage, in EDH it is advantageous to replace a part of your mana-base with cantrips. This allows you to dig for lands if you need them, and spells if you don't. Running these three, along with similar cheap card-draw, will allow you to run around thirty-two or so lands. Brainstorm goes from good to great if you have a high number of shuffle effects, from things like the Polluted Delta you're running. Similarly, Sleight of Hand or Serum Visions are good; they should be run only if you're already running the first three and still need more cantrips.
Similar to cantrips, card-positive draw-spells (i.e. Spells that draw more than one card) are also real good. Painful Truths , Fact or Fiction , Thirst for Knowledge , Night's Whisper , Echo of Eons and Windfall are great includes. Windfall and Echo of Eons are especially powerful if you also run Narset, Parter of Veils .
I highly suggest replacing your three-mana rocks with two-mana rocks. Chromatic Lantern , Pristine Talisman and Commander's Sphere are not as good as Talisman of Progress , Talisman of Hierarchy and Talisman of Dominance . Fellwar Stone , Mind Stone and Thought Vessel are also good two-mana rocks; Chrome Mox and Mox Diamond are good, though wildly expensive.
Ashiok, Dream Render is excellent if your format has a lot of fetch lands; it also hoses graveyard decks.
Ancient Tomb is a better Temple of the False God -- if you have access to it, you should run it. 'Enter the battlefield tapped' can be pretty not-good; while cards like Dimir Aqueduct are card advantage in that they produce more mana from the same number of lands, they aren't as good as a standard dual (at least in my opinion). Silent Clearing , City of Brass and Mana Confluence are all better than the Karoo lands. Caves of Koilos , Adarkar Wastes , Underground River , Reflecting Pool , Forbidden Orchard and Exotic Orchard are similar.
I don't think Felidar Sovereign is very good. Typically you cast it during your main phase, and it has to last an entire turn cycle with your life total above 40 (or 38, in Oloro, if you stack your triggers right) before it will win the game. During this time, all of your opponents will be doing all they can to remove it. I think it may be easier to win with a Laboratory Maniac / Jace, Wielder of Mysteries + Demonic Consultation / Doomsday combo. Running Silence can help protect this combo.
Force of Will and Mana Drain are the gold standard in counters, though they'll cost you about the same as a used kidney. Dovin's Veto , Spell Snare , Dispel and Swan Song are all good considerations; if your meta is filled with fat creatures, Exclude can be good, too.
I think you can run either Ghostly Prison or Propaganda -- I don't think both are necessary, especially since you're running Enlightened Tutor already. I advise running Ghostly Prison over Propaganda , as it doesn't die to Pyroblast / Red Elemental Blast .
Since it seems Aetherflux Reservoir is your main win condition, you may want to consider running Fabricate and Whir of Invention as tutors. If you want to go real deep, Transmute Artifact is a good card (though, also, REALLY expensive).
Alright -- I gotta go to bed. Good luck with the deck building!
1 month ago
Eidolon of Rhetoric occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.01%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%