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Turn to Frog
Instant
Target creature loses all abilities and becomes a 1/1 Frog until end of turn.
hiddengibbons on Tree of perdition and the …
2 months ago
So I read about a combo that uses Tree of Perdition and Turn to Frog that works despite the “loses all abilities” clause if the ability and spell go on the stack in the right order. Could the same be said if say, I put the tree’s ability on the stack and use a morbid Tragic Slip in the right order?
keizerbuns on
Sea of Attrition
3 months ago
This is a very cool concept, however it seems a little scattered. With lifegain, mill, tokens, tap/bounce control, stat manipulation, and creature stealing, it seems like your deck is being pulled in too many different directions without enough focus on any one thing in particular to give it a clear identity. Mill especially is kind of an all or nothing strategy that requires the entire deck to be built around it in order to work. Unless you have a really good mill/graveyard payoff to justify splashing in some mill spells, milling your opponent for just a few cards here and there won’t do anything except take up slots in your deck.
The best advice I think I could give you, and probably the same advice most other people will give you too, is to find your favourite element or two of the deck, and make that the focus. However, if you don’t want to do that, and you do want to keep the deck as a little bit of everything, I do have some suggestions that I think you might like.
My first suggestion would be to replace Dreadwaters with a lower CMC mill spell, because spending 4 mana to make one opponent mill for what I assume averages to be around 4-6 cards isn't a great rate. For just 2 mana you could use Maddening Cacophony and make each opponent mill 8 cards, and for an extra 4 you could make them mill half of their decks. You could also replace a couple of Islands with a couple copies of Ipnu Rivulet for some added milling consistency, although activating its mill ability would cause you to lose a land.
Talrand's Invocation also suffers from the same issue as Dreadwaters of just being too mana intensive for such a small effect. Paying 4 mana just to get 2 2/2 flyers is a little slow. I think Murmuring Mystic would suit you better as a long term token generator.
Ichthyomorphosis and Time of Ice both kind of get in the way of your plan to steal your opponent's creatures. Ichthyomorphosis turns your opponent's creatures into something not worth stealing and Time of Ice could potentially cause a creature you just stole from your opponent to be sent back to their hand. Instead of using Time of Ice to tap your opponents creatures, you could use an instant or a sorcery such as Downpour, Impede Momentum, Choking Tethers, or Sleep to achieve the same result. And instead of Ichthyomorphosis to permanently turn your opponents creatures into something small, you could use Turn to Frog which you can use to catch your opponents by surprise during the combat stage. Swapping both Ichthyomorphosis and Time of Ice for instants and sorceries would also synergize great with Murmuring Mystic to spam tokens.
You could replace Staff of the Mind Magus with Diamond Mare, which is admittedly a weaker life gain spell since it can't gain life off of your lands entering the battlefield, plus it's more susceptible to removal. However it is a cheaper CMC card and another creature to beat your opponents down with.
I think Niblis of Frost is better than Dragon Turtle at keeping your opponent's creatures tapped if you go with the previously mentioned replacements for Ichthyomorphosis and Time of Ice, plus with the Prowess ability, it can get pretty big with all of the instants and sorceries. And Sower of Temptation is a lower CMC version of Mind Flayer.
I also realized as I was looking back through my suggestions, that if you do end up going with all of them, then that would mean your deck would meet the deck requirements to add Gyruda, Doom of Depths as a companion, which would serve as a pretty good payoff for your mill cards!
Hopefully this was helpful!
Shnuff on
Simic Frogs
3 months ago
So many frog buddies the word frog lost all meaning and I read Forgotten Ancient as 'Frogotten Ancient'.
I recommend Polymorphist's Jest and Turn to Frog if only to enforce your froggy-will upon the other players (though I'm sure it could turn the tides in a combat swing too). Grolnok would approve of casting them with Croak counters at instant speed.
wisegreenbean on
Defender 2.0
9 months ago
Decisive Denial works based on power, not effective power, so you're only really using the counterspell mode. In that case, I'd suggest Dovin's Veto or Disdainful Stroke or Bant Charm.
Archetype of Courage and Archetype of Endurance aren't super good value for the mana you put in. If you want increased combat effectiveness, there are toughness buffs, and if you want protection, that are counterspells or targeted protections like Ephemerate or Dive Down or Simic Charm or Resolute Watchdog
Turn to Frog is not a very exciting removal effect if you're in white and could just be running Swords to Plowshares. Same for the tapdown of Winterthorn Blessing, or the delayed value of Fall of the Impostor. Beast Within or Generous Gift are also premier removal.
You have a few off-theme creatures I think you won't much like: Disciplined Duelist works off power, Horizon Chimera gains a little life which is pretty low value overall, same for Lunarch Veteran Flip. Rootcoil Creeper and Llanowar Scout aren't too bad, but I think there are probably better ramp effects for you.
Into the Wilds is kind of a slow and unreliable card advantage effect. I would usually prefer something like Shamanic Revelation or Collective Unconscious or Lifecrafter's Bestiary.
Aqueous Form and Staggering Insight are best on little creatures that attack a lot. You will often struggle to let your creatures attack at all, so I don't recommend them.
Cathar's Shield and Spidersilk Net are pretty low impact buffs. If you really want this effect, there's Slagwurm Armor.
Traveler's Amulet or Dromoka Monument aren't too exciting when you're in green and could have Vine Trellis or Wall of Roots or Rampant Growth.
Pledge of Unity and Brave the Sands are okish team buffs, but you can do better. Bar the Door and Solidarity are a little more on synergistic for your deck.
Slaughter the Strong is crazy strong in your deck!
BishopAtavist on
Perdition Surprise!
9 months ago
I'm also a big Tree of Perdition fan. I had set out to make a deck based off the Tree and Geralf, but ended up switching colors. Question: why not use Turn to Frog instead of Square Up? If you activate Tree or Perdition's ability first, and then put Turn to Frog on the stack, the fact that Tree of Perdition "loses abilities" in addition to becoming a 1/1 won't matter since the ability is already on the stack.
Stardragon on New Tarkir Elder Dragons
9 months ago
true but Ojutai's tap ability doesn't negate the attack as Artarka is already tapped and attacking she just won't be able to untap next turn. I was talking about in a void if somehow artarka was able to attack (it's jeskai she shouldn't be able to but just incase she does) ik the answer is to Turn to Frog her than turn her into frog legs. But i just want that out there.
dragonstryke58 on Does Swift Reconfiguration remove creature …
1 year ago
Sorry, for some odd reason I was thinking of cards with effects like Turn to Frog.
