Vessel of Nascency

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Vessel of Nascency

Enchantment

, Sacrifice Vessel of Nascency: Reveal the top four cards of your library. You may put an artifact, creature, enchantment, land, or planeswalker card from among them into your hand. Put the rest into your graveyard.

legendofa on I need help coming up …

1 year ago

Rhonas the Indomitable's combat restriction and activated ability strongly support a stompy-style deck. I'm not trying to dissuade you from building the deck you want, but I do suggest at least considering other indestructible options like Anara, Wolvid Familiar + a partner, Nylea, Keen-Eyed, or Toski, Bearer of Secrets, each of which offers a different dynamic in addition to indestructibility. Neyith of the Dire Hunt can be played as mono-green if you want to lean into the fight angle, and Kogla, the Titan Ape is another potential commander there.

TurboFog can be built in mono-green. Aside from the Fog effects like Moment's Peace, Sunstone, and Tangle, cards like Arboria, Elephant Grass, Silent Arbiter, and Crawlspace restrict attacking options. Orbs of Warding and Witchbane Orb offer more protection. Heroic Intervention should be a given if you have access to one, and there's a good number of instants that grant single-target protection. You're going to want to draw heavily, so look at artifact-based draw, top-deck searching like Commune with the Gods or Vessel of Nascency, and Sylvan Library, Harmonize, and Greater Good.

Green's win conditions are heavily based around creatures and attacking, and that's only gotten more true in recent years. Helix Pinnacle works as an alternate win con for a slower game, and artifact combos are always applicable.

Fluggleshmuggits on Cube Eternal

1 year ago

Changelog 12/10/22

Original Dual lands are in
2 color man lands are in
upgrades in every color and almost every guild pair

IN

OUT

multimedia on Muldrotha Snow: The Frozen Forest

1 year ago

Hey, you're welcome. Good job with the update, thanks for the shoutout.

Thespian's Stage combos with Dark Depths to get Marit Lage. Stage copies Depths to become a copy with no ice counters that's then saced to create Marit Lage. When you copy Depths due to the legendary rule you will have to choose one of them. Choose the Stage copy and put the original Depths into your graveyard. Moritte of the Frost is a budget snow creature who can copy any permanent you control to be snow.

Expanding on self-mill can fuel Muldrotha and get snow lands into your graveyard to reanimate a lot of them at one time with World Shaper. Shaper has to die to trigger it's land effect. Plaguecrafter is great in multiplayer Commander since it makes all your opponents sac a creature, or a Planeswalker or discard a card. It can sac itself making it a nice repeatable effect with Muldrotha.

Self-mill is like draw plus selection with Muldrotha since you fill your graveyard up with permanents to play.

Cemetery Tampering is repeatable self-mill with hideaway 5. When it enters the battlefield you look at the top five cards of your library and choose one of them. This card is then exiled and you may play it for no mana at your upkeep if you have 20 or more cards in your graveyard. Hideaway can be repeatable with Muldrotha if you have a way to destroy Tampering getting it into your graveyard to cast it again.

Seal of Primordium can repeatedly destroy Cemetery Tampering after your upkeep, after you mill, after you play the hideaway card for free. Seal is excellent with Muldrotha having a repeatable effect from an enchantment to remove an artifact or enchantment.

Repeatable protection for Muldrotha, Marit Lage, etc. can be helpful. Muldrotha is going to have a target on it when it enters the battlefield and Kaya's Ghostform can protect from many types of removal. It's one mana to repeatable cast it from your graveyard on your turn to protect Muldrotha.

One of the better ways to protect 20/20 indestructible Marit Lage is giving it hexproof since then exile and bounce opponent removal that targets can't target Marit Lage. Swiftfoot Boots gives equipped creature hexproof as well as haste and that's also powerful with Marit Lage getting to attack the same turn it's created if it's created on your turn. Siren Stormtamer is one mana to cast and one mana to sac to protect a creature or even yourself. Muldrotha makes Stormtamer a repeatable counterspell for creature or yourself protection.

multimedia on Muldrotha Snow: The Frozen Forest

1 year ago

Hey, well done with such a low budget, The Undead Forest is a cool deck name. Interesting deck idea for your first Commander deck with Muldrotha, but why snow? Weathered Runestone completely shuts down Muldrotha.

Marit Lage's Slumber, Jorn, God of Winter  Flip, Priest of the Haunted Edge, Blood on the Snow, Ice-Fang Coatl these are some reasons to play snow with Muldrotha. Iceberg Cancrix can repeatable self-mill and that's a good effect with Muldrotha. Pilfering Hawk can be repeatable loot which gets cards into your graveyard. Unfortunately, this isn't many cards.

Draugr Necromancer is a good card with snow, but it doesn't have much interaction with Muldrotha. Dead of Winter is another good card with snow, but Muldrotha is not a snow creature. Narfi, Betrayer King is fine, able to reanimate itself with snow, but he's support for snow not really a reason to play snow.


Some advice to consider is to play nonsnow cards that can put snow-covered permanents (lands) onto the battlefield to meet the snow requirement for snow cards without playing lots of unnecessary snow creatures. The best way to get snow permanents is with snow-covered lands. You really don't need lots of other subpar snow creatures here.

All these creatures could be cut to improve your deck.


Instead of playing lots of lesser snow creatures, play just the better snow creatures here?

Use other deck slots for cards that can search for and get snow-covered lands onto the battlefield?

Consider adding some spells that are not permanents that can search for and put snow-covered lands onto the battlefield?

Cards that can get snow-covered lands into your hand as well as get cards into your graveyard can be helpful with Muldrotha.

Could also add some snow mana rocks and mana dorks?

Land ramp for snow-covered lands and mana from mana rocks is more ramp which also helps to cast 6 mana Muldrotha as well as having more mana to cast permanents from your graveyard when you control Muldrotha.


Example of a budget more refined creature base with snow.

Good luck with your deck.

Rome921 on muldrotha yo

1 year ago

Hey man, looking over it, obviously a great looking budget list. Keeping a general mindset of no cards over $3 I would add:

Removal : Seal of Removal, Seal of Doom, Oubliette, Kenrith's Transformation. These are awesome removals that you can play and keep until you need to use them, and Returnable with Mully

Ramp : Bounty of the Luxa, Mind Stone, Rootcoil Creeper, Leyline Prowler, Kodama's Reach Good cheap cards to help you get Muldrotha out faster, and then be able to play 2-3 spells a turn. The Prowler is also just an awesome blocker sometimes with his deathtouch.

Top End : World Breaker because he just deals with SO MANY weird things your opponents could be doing, Tatyova, Benthic Druid is awesome, especially with the fetch-style lands you've got going on.

Tutor : Dig Up Great budget Tutor for your colors.

I would take out: Too high CMC / Clunky : Deadbridge Chant, Izoni, Thousand-Eyed, Worm Harvest, Mythos of Brokkos (replace with Dig Up)

Too uneventful / slow / non-impactful : Desecrated Tomb, Perpetual Timepiece, Tamiyo, Collector of Tales, Growth Spiral, Llanowar Elves, Foundation Breaker, Vessel of Nascency, Stinkweed Imp

Jack32226 on Rot and Ruin (Muldrotha EDH)

2 years ago

Thanks for commenting, Lord_of_Cardboard!

This deck would do exceptionally well against a Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger deck. This is for the same reason that cards like Jace's Archivist do so well in the deck: if you have have Muldrotha on the battlefield, any cards you discard might as well still be in your hand cause you can simply replay them from your graveyard. If anything, an opposing Kroxa player is almost helping you by disrupting your other opponents' hands.

As for a budget version of the deck, here's some advice on budget options and replacements. Just note that this is advice specific to my Muldrotha deck, i.e., advice for the big mana and big X-spell strategy. If you'd rather play a more typical creature-based, swing-to-kill type deck, there may be better Muldrotha lists to look at.

The mana base makes up a large portion of the deck's budget, and I would leave that mostly up to your own discretion. Just keep in mind that fetch lands like Evolving Wilds and slow fetches like Bad River are good for being replayed every turn with Muldrotha. Also, for a budget version of the deck, it's important to run more basics than I do since you'll probably need to fetch more with your ramp. Cycle lands like Lonely Sandbar, Tranquil Thicket, and Barren Moor are fantastic, especially with Life from the Loam. Some other good options:

Which brings me to another point: if I had to pick one somewhat expensive card that's worth putting in a budget Muldrotha deck, it's this one. It's a one-card value engine, giving you card draw, mill, and lands. And depending on what utility lands you choose to run, it can do a whole lot more. And if you're worried about Kroxa in your meta, Life from the Loam is a great counter to it, allowing you to fill your hand with lands to discard.

Now to address key cards for the deck's "big mana" strategy. Important cards for generating a lot of mana include Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Cabal Coffers, Dryad of the Ilysian Grove, Crypt Ghast, and Nyxbloom Ancient. You could just replace these cards with normal ramp; casting X-spells for X=10 is still good and easy to accomplish without these cards. If that's unsatisfying for you, you could consider options like Zendikar Resurgent and Mana Reflection. Unfortunately there aren't many great cheap options for producing a lot of mana. This is an important part of the deck though, so it's up to you if it's worth spending some extra money on it.

To avoid this comment being any more lengthy than it already is, here's an extensive list of some budget alternatives for the deck. The great thing about Muldrotha is that being able to replay removal makes a lot of sub-par removal actually pretty good, so it's pretty budget friendly.

Win-Conditions: What's in the deck isn't too expensive, but here's some cheaper options.

Removal:

Draw / Mill:

Tutors:

Ramp:

Control and other good stuff:

If you have any other questions about budget options, let me know. I'm always happy to help!

Demon519 on M-m-m-m-m-my Muldrotha! That's a bad name.

2 years ago

RAMP: Deranged Assistant, Gilded Goose, Rootcoil Creeper, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Skull Prophet, Solemn Simulacrum, Phyrexian Tower, Binding the Old Gods, Titans' Nest, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Nissa's Renewal, Chromatic Lantern, Dimir Signet, Golgari Signet, Lotus Petal, Simic Signet, Sol Ring, Wayfarer's Bauble, Kiora, the Crashing Wave.

CARD DRAW and SELF MILL: Baleful Strix, Deranged Assistant, Glowspore Shaman, Prime Speaker Zegana, Satyr Wayfinder, Sidisi, Brood Tyrant, Skull Prophet, Solemn Simulacrum, Stitcher's Supplier, Underrealm Lich, The Binding of the Titans, Titans' Nest, Vessel of Nascency, Buried Alive, Rishkar's Expertise, Victimize, Aether Spellbomb, Altar of Dementia, Kiora, the Crashing Wave.

REMOVAL: Acidic Slime, Agent of Treachery, Bane of Progress, Cavalier of Night, Hostage Taker, Kraul Harpooner, Massacre Wurm, Polukranos, Unchained, Ravenous Chupacabra, Shriekmaw, Binding the Old Gods, Pernicious Deed, Seal of Primordium, Beast Within, In Garruk's Wake, Languish, Aether Spellbomb, Vraska, Golgari Queen.

PROTECTION and RECURSION: Eternal Witness, Genesis, Gisa, Glorious Resurrector, Glen Elendra Archmage, Siren Stormtamer, Spore Frog, Animate Dead, Kaya's Ghostform, Pattern of Rebirth, The Binding of the Titans, Rise of the Dark Realms, Victimize, Kiora, the Crashing Wave.

ATTEMPTS TO WIN: Avenger of Zendikar + Fabled Passage ... Eternal Witness + Time Warp ... Avenger of Zendikar + Altar of Dementia ... Massacre Wurm + Thassa, Deep-Dwelling ... Muldrotha, the Gravetide + Kaya's Ghostform + Lotus Petal + Altar of Dementia ... Rise of the Dark Realms + Eternal Witness ... Vraska, Golgari Queen emblem ... Underrealm Lich + Prime Speaker Zegana OR Rishkar's Expertise

CUTE/GOOFY: Gisa, Glorious Resurrector, Awaken the Erstwhile, Visions of Duplicity.

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