Vessel of Nascency

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Pioneer Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Custom Legal
Quest Magic Legal

Vessel of Nascency

Enchantment

, Sacrifice Vessel of Nascency: Reveal the top four cards of your library. You may put an artifact, creature, enchantment, land, or planeswalker card from among them into your hand. Put the rest into your graveyard.

Rome921 on muldrotha yo

3 months ago

Hey man, looking over it, obviously a great looking budget list. Keeping a general mindset of no cards over $3 I would add:

Removal : Seal of Removal, Seal of Doom, Oubliette, Kenrith's Transformation. These are awesome removals that you can play and keep until you need to use them, and Returnable with Mully

Ramp : Bounty of the Luxa, Mind Stone, Rootcoil Creeper, Leyline Prowler, Kodama's Reach Good cheap cards to help you get Muldrotha out faster, and then be able to play 2-3 spells a turn. The Prowler is also just an awesome blocker sometimes with his deathtouch.

Top End : World Breaker because he just deals with SO MANY weird things your opponents could be doing, Tatyova, Benthic Druid is awesome, especially with the fetch-style lands you've got going on.

Tutor : Dig Up Great budget Tutor for your colors.

I would take out: Too high CMC / Clunky : Deadbridge Chant, Izoni, Thousand-Eyed, Worm Harvest, Mythos of Brokkos (replace with Dig Up)

Too uneventful / slow / non-impactful : Desecrated Tomb, Perpetual Timepiece, Tamiyo, Collector of Tales, Growth Spiral, Llanowar Elves, Foundation Breaker, Vessel of Nascency, Stinkweed Imp

Jack32226 on Rot and Ruin (Muldrotha EDH)

3 months ago

Thanks for commenting, Lord_of_Cardboard!

This deck would do exceptionally well against a Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger deck. This is for the same reason that cards like Jace's Archivist do so well in the deck: if you have have Muldrotha on the battlefield, any cards you discard might as well still be in your hand cause you can simply replay them from your graveyard. If anything, an opposing Kroxa player is almost helping you by disrupting your other opponents' hands.

As for a budget version of the deck, here's some advice on budget options and replacements. Just note that this is advice specific to my Muldrotha deck, i.e., advice for the big mana and big X-spell strategy. If you'd rather play a more typical creature-based, swing-to-kill type deck, there may be better Muldrotha lists to look at.

The mana base makes up a large portion of the deck's budget, and I would leave that mostly up to your own discretion. Just keep in mind that fetch lands like Evolving Wilds and slow fetches like Bad River are good for being replayed every turn with Muldrotha. Also, for a budget version of the deck, it's important to run more basics than I do since you'll probably need to fetch more with your ramp. Cycle lands like Lonely Sandbar, Tranquil Thicket, and Barren Moor are fantastic, especially with Life from the Loam. Some other good options:

Which brings me to another point: if I had to pick one somewhat expensive card that's worth putting in a budget Muldrotha deck, it's this one. It's a one-card value engine, giving you card draw, mill, and lands. And depending on what utility lands you choose to run, it can do a whole lot more. And if you're worried about Kroxa in your meta, Life from the Loam is a great counter to it, allowing you to fill your hand with lands to discard.

Now to address key cards for the deck's "big mana" strategy. Important cards for generating a lot of mana include Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Cabal Coffers, Dryad of the Ilysian Grove, Crypt Ghast, and Nyxbloom Ancient. You could just replace these cards with normal ramp; casting X-spells for X=10 is still good and easy to accomplish without these cards. If that's unsatisfying for you, you could consider options like Zendikar Resurgent and Mana Reflection. Unfortunately there aren't many great cheap options for producing a lot of mana. This is an important part of the deck though, so it's up to you if it's worth spending some extra money on it.

To avoid this comment being any more lengthy than it already is, here's an extensive list of some budget alternatives for the deck. The great thing about Muldrotha is that being able to replay removal makes a lot of sub-par removal actually pretty good, so it's pretty budget friendly.

Win-Conditions: What's in the deck isn't too expensive, but here's some cheaper options.

Removal:

Draw / Mill:

Tutors:

Ramp:

Control and other good stuff:

If you have any other questions about budget options, let me know. I'm always happy to help!

Demon519 on M-m-m-m-m-my Muldrotha! That's a bad name.

8 months ago

RAMP: Deranged Assistant, Gilded Goose, Rootcoil Creeper, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Skull Prophet, Solemn Simulacrum, Phyrexian Tower, Binding the Old Gods, Titans' Nest, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Nissa's Renewal, Chromatic Lantern, Dimir Signet, Golgari Signet, Lotus Petal, Simic Signet, Sol Ring, Wayfarer's Bauble, Kiora, the Crashing Wave.

CARD DRAW and SELF MILL: Baleful Strix, Deranged Assistant, Glowspore Shaman, Prime Speaker Zegana, Satyr Wayfinder, Sidisi, Brood Tyrant, Skull Prophet, Solemn Simulacrum, Stitcher's Supplier, Underrealm Lich, The Binding of the Titans, Titans' Nest, Vessel of Nascency, Buried Alive, Rishkar's Expertise, Victimize, Aether Spellbomb, Altar of Dementia, Kiora, the Crashing Wave.

REMOVAL: Acidic Slime, Agent of Treachery, Bane of Progress, Cavalier of Night, Hostage Taker, Kraul Harpooner, Massacre Wurm, Polukranos, Unchained, Ravenous Chupacabra, Shriekmaw, Binding the Old Gods, Pernicious Deed, Seal of Primordium, Beast Within, In Garruk's Wake, Languish, Aether Spellbomb, Vraska, Golgari Queen.

PROTECTION and RECURSION: Eternal Witness, Genesis, Gisa, Glorious Resurrector, Glen Elendra Archmage, Siren Stormtamer, Spore Frog, Animate Dead, Kaya's Ghostform, Pattern of Rebirth, The Binding of the Titans, Rise of the Dark Realms, Victimize, Kiora, the Crashing Wave.

ATTEMPTS TO WIN: Avenger of Zendikar + Fabled Passage ... Eternal Witness + Time Warp ... Avenger of Zendikar + Altar of Dementia ... Massacre Wurm + Thassa, Deep-Dwelling ... Muldrotha, the Gravetide + Kaya's Ghostform + Lotus Petal + Altar of Dementia ... Rise of the Dark Realms + Eternal Witness ... Vraska, Golgari Queen emblem ... Underrealm Lich + Prime Speaker Zegana OR Rishkar's Expertise

CUTE/GOOFY: Gisa, Glorious Resurrector, Awaken the Erstwhile, Visions of Duplicity.

seshiro_of_the_orochi on Golgari deatbonnet heirloom mirror

9 months ago

I like the idea. A problem I see is that you kind of want to be a fast deck, but the shroom alone will propably not be enough aggression to "be the aggro".

Another card that's great for such decks is Vessel of Nascency. It's similar to Heirloom Mirror  Flip and can also help in case you want to include some Delirium cards. As legendofa said, Dredge is very fitting. You could also consider Splinterfright and Nyx Weaver.

Rivrek on Ishkanah, Grafwidow Commander COMBO Deck

1 year ago

I would have never thought to find such a comment like this, it's A M A Z I N G. I really like your support on this project and I would love to create a competitive deck together.

Some of the combos you mentioned are really amazing, like the one with Priest of Gix and the Mirage Mirror one.

Unfortunatly I don't work yet, so I can't really have a deck with Moxes, 15 Fetch Lands and OP Mana Artifacts, but we can build one not caring for the price just to see if it will be competitive or not

I think some choises I made were really poor, like Panharmonicon or Far Wanderings.

Others, instead, need some explanation:

-Witchbane Orb is needed in my deck because in my playgroup people will 100% try to Bojuka Bog or try to Flash in a Tormod's Crypt when the Commander is being casted ( happened to me once when I was trying to cast a Kathril, Aspect Warper who was going to become a 26/26 with 13 different abilities....)

-Vessel of Nascency will trigger Delirum Turn 2 in 90% on the times it is in my starting hand, also Jarad's Orders can tutor only creatures, so Final Parting is faaar better for 1 more mana

-Blood for Bones has one of the most intricated rulings I've ever seen, with it you can sacrifice a creature and then return that same creature you sacrificed back to the battlefield, creating a card that can "Blink" in Black and that also returns a creature into your hand from the graveyard

I don't really like the Zendikar Dual Lands, but Bala Ged Recovery  Flip is too good.

Another thing, I don't think that attacking with spiders is a good idea, my Deck can create a bunch of them in a turn, but i would rather win with them with a combo then wait for a full rotation (and all my friends at the LGS have at least 2 boardwipes per deck) to attack.

This deck doesn't draw, you're right, but it mills itself and then returns to hand important combo pieces from the graveyard, but we can try to put in a Shamanic Revelation and other cool drawing cards and see what happens

Entomb is better than Buried Alive for the same reason of Jarad's Orders, and you could have a Turn 1 Razaketh, the Foulblooded with Dark Ritual and Reanimate

Let me now what you think, I'm really excited about this project

smilodex on Ishkanah, Grafwidow Commander COMBO Deck

1 year ago

Thanks for your comment. I am very happy about such comments, as it is difficult to keep an eye on every possible combination with over a thousand commanders, especially with such a commander like Ishkanah, which you don't meet in your LGS every day. Thanks to your comment, I can see more of the potential of Ishkanah. I you want to tune up your deck, I have some recommendations for that:

I would exchange:

I would play as many cool utility lands with a sacrifice effect and as many fetch lands as possible because they're needed for Delirium and have also great potential with the MVP in every graveyard deck Life from the Loam:

Carddraw or Cardadvantage:

Other good finishers/ combo pieces:

Well, I'm sure that you already know what other options there are to tune up the deck. If you want to win consitenly I would add more ways to produce infinte mana like Nim Deathmantle + Priest of Gix + Ashnod's Altar or Magus of the Coffers + Staff of Domination OR another unigue and complicated way to filter infinite colorless mana with Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brighthearth is together with Mirage Mirror and a Swamp...

To make the whole thing more consistent you have play all green and black tutors, play fast mana like the Moxes, Mana Crypt/-Vault, Manadorks (Elvish Mystic/Elves of Deep Shadow/Llanowar Elves etc. and pack some premium removal in the deck to raise the power level. If you're interested we can brew a fringe competetive list together.

Tylord2894 on Vessel of Nascency and Bala …

1 year ago

No, you can't reveal Bala Ged Recovery  Flip off of Vessel of Nascency.

By default, the characteristics of a modal double-faced card are the characteristics of the front face. In this case, Bala Ged Recovery  Flip is a sorcery. It will only be considered a land card when it's back-face is up while on the battlefield.

Hope this helps!!

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