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| Format | Legality |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Oldschool 93/94 | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Ancestral Recall
Instant
Target player draws three cards.
sylvannos on
Hoax Storm v2
1 month ago
To start with, there's a few cards that have better Vintage equivalents. Overmaster and Spell Pierce should be the 3rd. and 4th. copies of Force of Will. Leftover space from cutting those can be Red Elemental Blast, Pyroblast, or Flusterstorm. You don't need Faithless Looting because we have Paradoxical Outcome, Sensei's Divining Top, Gush, Dig Through Time, Treasure Cruise, and Brainstorm to choose from. Merchant Scroll also belongs in here, because you can use it to grab Ancestral Recall at the very least. Usually you want it to make sure you have protection in hand by grabbing countermagic.
Library of Alexandria isn't good in this deck. And you're not the type that needs 8x sources, so Steam Vents can go, along with a few copies of Volcanic Island (1 or 2). Replace all of these with four copies of Scalding Tarn and basic lands. Or even just play 6x fetches. You need to be able to shuffle after using Brainstorm, Ponder,and Sensei's Divining Top.
From here, you have a solid U/R Storm shell. However, I wouldn't play straight "Modern U/R Storm, but Power 9" dot dec. 2 mana is a lot for Goblin Electromancer, there are easier ways of winning than Grapeshot, and so on. The question then becomes "Where to go from here?"
- Paradoxical Outcome is just the nuts. By bouncing moxen and cheap artifacts, it's a ritual (since you can replay everything for , untapping it all) and it's a draw spell. However, Paradoxical Outcome requires Mox Opals, Lotus Petal, Lion's Eye Diamond, etc. so you'll have to cut rituals (likely Seething Song). The upside is you get an extremely powerful engine that can often end the game with a single Paradoxical Outcome.
- Thassa's Oracle is the new hotness for Vintage combo cards. You can win the game by casting Brain Freeze on yourself, then casting Thassa's Oracle. It also opens up more combos using Demonic Consultation and Doomsday. Sometimes you've just drawn a bunch of cards and have ~3 cards left in your deck.
- Tinker is too good in Storm not to play it. You're either getting Memory Jar, Bolas's Citadel, Time Vault (Voltaic Key is already good in Storm when combined with Mana Vault and friends), or a random wincon like Sphinx of the Steel Wind boarded in for game 2. Bolas's Citadel will essentially flip the top half of your deck into play.
- You can also play draw 7s (Wheel of Fortune, Timetwister, Memory Jar, Diminishing Returns) in combination with Narset, Parter of Veils and Hullbreacher.
- Mana Drain is good, but you may find it too slow if you make any of the above changes. It definitely does more work in a more control-oriented Storm deck with Narset, Parter of Veils, Dack Fayden, Grim Tutor, etc.
- Lastly, there's the question of Underworld Breach, Yawgmoth's Will, Monastery Mentor, or some combination of these. Underworld Breach will mean you can stay in two colors. Playing black for Yawgmoth's Will allows you to play Dark Ritual, Cabal Ritual, Yawgmoth's Bargain, Necropotence, Doomsday, Tendrils of Agony, and hardcasting Bolas's Citadel. Monastery Mentor both scales up and goes sideways. A single token is enough to kill someone combined with Paradoxical Outcome or a draw 7. Monastery Mentor is like casting Tarmogoyf and Empty the Warrens for three mana and one card.
Hope this helps! Welcome to MtG's oldest and greatest format.
Mortlocke on
The Song of Phyresis
2 months ago
Hi Brightwrath - thanks for following my love letter to Phyrexia, even from the shadows. Mystic Remora is a great card for cEDH, and if your meta is all about multiple spells every turn, then by all means run it as it's just an Ancestral Recall with extra text. If not, then this is nothing short of a dead card. Necropotence is a great card as well but this deck tends to lean heavy on using life points. The previously mentioned will more likely than not limit your playing options - making you an even more attractive option to be shoved off the table by opponents. If you run Necropotence, i'd make sure to substitute in more Toxic/Infect creatures with lifelink like Flensermite.
As for my own deck I planned to go into each option at length but I guess i'll explain my rationale on some of the cards officially spoiled thus far:
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Glissa Sunslayer - I think she is a Phyrexian Arena with extra steps. However, she offers a bit more versatility by allowing you to target an opponent's Enchantments for destruction or remove counters from a pesky Planeswalker. I think she would be a good redundant piece to run alongside Phyrexian Arena of course.
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Staff of Compleation - This card I'm still trying to process honestly. It does things that could potentially steal the game - if you have enough life to pay that is. This card has the shares the same problem as Sylvan Library in that you have to be disciplined enough to know how much is enough.
ToxicMCTV - According to Card Kingdom it's 6 and a half K :) Honestly I don't think the deck costs anywhere near as much as either site estimates. Sub out the ABUR Duals and fancy foils and I'd estimate this deck to be maybe somewhere around $150. Would you build this deck?
DemonDragonJ on What is Your Opinion of …
3 months ago
Some player use proxy cards, unofficial duplicates of official cards, either when they do not wish to spend an exorbitant sum of money on an expensive card that they desire, or when they already own such a card, but do not wish to use it in events.
Thus far, I do not have any proxy cards in any of my decks, because I have not needed them, since I do not use any cards that I cannot afford to purchase; however, I have been contemplating possibly purchasing proxies of certain cards to use in my decks, since it is very unlikely that I shall ever enter any WotC-sanctioned events, as I am not a very competitive player. I obviously would not be so cheap as to use proxies of Black Lotus, Ancestral Recall, or the original moxen in my decks, but I see no problem with proxies of Sol Ring, as it is now an inexpensive and ubiquitous card, due to numerous reprints, or the original dual lands, as they are powerful, but not game-breakingly so, and are on the reserved list, so WotC shall never reprint them (at least not in tournament-legal form).
What does everyone else say about this? How do you feel about proxy cards?
plakjekaas on Atraxa, Phyrexia's Champion
4 months ago
4 mana draw 5 on a really relevant body as the floor (assuming the creature survived) seems massively overpowered. Giant Growth on upkeep turns into Ancestral Recall on top of the cards you already draw, which seems actually silly considering the lifelink. Necropotence showed us in the 90s that losing life for cards is barely a downside. I'd say use the number of counters, not the power, to determine the amount of cards drawn, at the bare minimum, to slightly balance this card.
TypicalTimmy on MTG 30th anniversary $1K Proxies
5 months ago
Abaques, markerts are difficult to predict because you really are divided into two categories on a topic like this. Those who want the original printings (Be it alpha, beta, revised) and those who merely want a card and don't really care about print runs.
Take me, for example. I own a Gaea's Cradle. Caveat: I own a $250 gold bordered Gaea's Cradle. That card is not legal in any tournament setting. However, if an EDH group is okay with it, it can be used within one of my decks. That's what Rule 0 is for. And yes, I've had groups at the LGS say sure, and others say no. I respect the table and play accordingly.
To me, $250 for a card WOTC did in fact print (albeit for a different reason, that being a prize handed out) is superior to just writing "Gaea's Cradle" in black marker on a Forest. All the same, a card is a card is a card.
Do the $250 gold Cradles detract from the value of the original? No, not seemingly. Are there collectors who would like one? Yes. I've been offered my selection through trade binders, as well as cash. I've even had a store owner ask me if I'd like to trade for a few boxes of equal value in my selection of sets.
I personally would never spend $1,000 on a single card. I would for a complete deck, but not a singular card. In fact, I have a $1,400 deck that does absolutely nothing. (All 10 fetches, all 10 shocks, chrome mox, mox diamond. Was a Golos 5c God Tribal deck that no longer exists thanks to the ban).
Point being, for a consumer like me, no having an officially printed proxy does not demean value in any way, shape or form.
That being said, there are collectors and investors who sit on dozens of cards from the Power 9 and the reserves list.
Rudy from Alpha Investment is a great example. There were originally 1,100 Alpha Black Lotus printed and he owns about 100 of them. You should see his binder, it's magnificent.
Will Rudy freak out? No. He was a career Walstreet investor. He knows markers better than likely anyone on this entire website.
- Hi Rudy, if you're in here!
But someone who maybe has a serious stake without the same knowledge? I could see a panic happening. And there's the crux of it all. Markets are determined by supply and demand, but also intrinsic value. If 1/2 of all investors fear their holdings lost 30% overnight and being to panic sell, guess what happens? Self-fulfilling prophecy. Their assets lose value.
I could see a very minor short term shift, but it'll balance out once investors realize there's a silver lining here. They too can buy these silly $1,000 packs and hold.
Those proxies BLs and Ancestral Recalls will likely fetch $300 - $1,000 each. Far less than the real things, but well worth the efforts to invest in and own.
But as with all investments, only time will tell. If you worry about short term gains, you'll always be chasing your tail.
Skagra42 on List of Bugs and Feature …
5 months ago
Flood and Burn Affinity is listed as being Vintage legal despite running four copies of Ancestral Recall, which is restricted in the format.
SufferFromEDHD on
Millhouse | Bruvac Petitioners [Primer]
6 months ago
I'm a huge fan of Brainstorm but I don't think it's being used to it's full potential here. You run 0 fetch lands and as a mill strategy top deck card quality is irrelevant. You are running Visions of Beyond which in mill/graveyard strategies is Ancestral Recall anyways. Thought Scour is a solid mill cantrip if you are looking for another 1 drop.
Niko9 on Do you consider "Value" = …
6 months ago
I think that value is a very vague thing, but these would definitely qualify. Have heard something like sacing creatures into Pitiless Plunderer as value, and I think that anything that is a direct benefit to you the player rather than a play against your opponents, is value. So draw, impulse, gaining treasures, or even something like untapping lands with Seedborn Muse is value because it is gaining you resources. At least that's how I see it : )
Also, and I don't mean this as a slight to any creators, but I really don't like the idea of templates for commander decks. Saying you want X of anything is such a double edged sword. Your example of Defense of the Heart is a great one. It's not really draw, but in a lot of green decks it's a straight up wincon. If I'm playing elfball Defense of the Heart will be better than even Ancestral Recall because most of the time you will have 4 mana turn 2 and it's a win if you draw it.
And even on a basic level, the amount of anything and everything you want in a deck is so highly variable. A five color deck will always want more card draw to nail land colors, but a mono color deck doesn't have that and will often have more space for spot removal and things like that. Experimentation is key : ) You won't know the best version of your deck until you try it.
Deck templates are a good place to start I guess, but so often you will find that your deck takes a mind of it's own as you test it anyways, so I don't know. I like when command zone or something does tips and tricks, but I find their structural deck design tutorials, honestly, one of the least useful things.
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