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Mortlocke on
The Queen's Egg
1 week ago
I can absolutely relate on the wife front. I've been married for 8 years - just celebrated an anniversary and we'll likely be together for many more. She's already accepted my addicti-er...hobby. Just gotta make responsible budgets each month for entertainment. Also, I highly suggest you chat up a local game store (LGS) and feel out the management and staff - if they are trustworthy and amicable to their customers you should build a financial relationship with them - try to do as much business as possible there. Then when it comes time for you to want to get a BIG purchase for a birthday (like that aforementioned Sliver Queen *oversized*) you can make an arrangement where you give some trades as a down payment, and every paycheck you make small payments until the card is purchased. Yes, it's effectively layaway - but obviously you can't do that with all stores. This is more of a long term suggestion if you ever felt so inclined to collect some more expensive pieces. If you know you're never going to want to then I suggest you proxy to your heart's content. Few players seem to care as long as you're not playing in big tournaments with cash prizes.
As for card suggestions I think all of your swaps are spot on, except your filterland choices. Don't go with the Odyssey cycle lands like the aforementioned Skycloud Expanse. When they enter the battlefield they literally do nothing unless you have another mana source already on the field - including these limit your early game options. Pay the few dollars more and get the Shadowmoor filterlands e.g. Flooded Grove and Mystic Gate. The key differences here is that they all can produce mana - specifically - but their filtering option takes things one step further and can give you a two of one color as opposed to one of each.
Mox Diamond is tough to replace. It's a card with ridiculous power that just can't really be replicated. Considering price though, i'd go with a utility spell like the aforementioned Teferi's Protection, Heroic Intervention, or Sylvan Tutor. MindStone is also a very okay option as well because in the late game it can get you a card when in a pinch. This slot is reserved for low cost spells that help establish or maintain your boardstate. Go with what you think your deck needs.
nuperokaso on
elemental lorwyn block constructed
1 year ago
- Play 4 Reflecting Pool. Works great with Vivids and Primal Beyond. No need to play Prismatic Omen.
- Supreme Exemplar is not very good. It works only with Incandescent Soulstoke.
- Horde of Notions is the best card you have. You should be playing more of them, most likely 4. If one is answered, you drop a second one. If not answered, he'll overtake over the game.
- Play more lands. Your deck is mana hungry, and even with Smokebraider you always have expensive things to cast or activate Horde of Notions.
- I would replace one Island with Mystic Gate. You have white and blue spells with double mana and this filter will help you casting them.
ThassaUpYo@ssa on
Kros
1 year ago
For your strategy, I'd focus on either infect or +1/+1 counters since the list seems to be a bit "busy" with too much going on. Once you choose which way you'd like to take the deck, we can further tweak - proliferation will still be central to your overall plan.
Here are some suggestions by color that you might want to consider adding to your mainboard:
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Heroic Intervention, Nature's Lore, The Great Henge, Three Visits.
:
Akroma's Will, Flawless Manuever, Smothering Tithe, Teferi's Protection, Trouble in Pairs.
:
Cyclonic Rift, Fierce Guardianship, Mana Drain, Swan Song.
I think you can get away with swapping out removing some counter spells as it seems a bit overkill - Cancel, Dispel, Envelop, Negate, and Nullify could probably come out in favor of Fierce Guardianship, Mana Drain, and Swan Song (the others could just be cut).
For your land base, I'd work the following lands in to help with your color wheel:
Fetch Lands: Flooded Strand, Misty Rainforest, Windswept Heath
Filter Lands: Flooded Grove, Mystic Gate, Wooded Bastion
Pathways Lands: Barkchannel Pathway Flip, Branchloft Pathway Flip, Hengegate Pathway Flip
Shock Lands: Breeding Pool, Hallowed Fountain, Temple Garden
Tri-Cycle Land: Spara's Headquarters
True Duals: Savannah, Tropical Island, Tundra
For mana rocks, I prefer the talismans over the signets:
Talisman of Curiosity, Talisman of Progress, Talisman of Unity
I think your Kros, Defense Contractor list is in a good spot, it just needs to be a little more focused.
amarthaler on
EDH Arcades, the Strategist
2 years ago
Update!
Out: Glacial Fortress... Sunpetal Grove... Hinterland Harbor
In: Mystic Gate... Flooded Grove... Wooded Bastion
Not sure why it took me this long to smooth out the land base, but I replaced all the check lands with my favorite filter lands from Shadowmoor and Eventide.
abbatromebone on
3 years ago
- Poppet Stitcher Flip Is great when you have 1/1s but bad if they do anything more. Prowess is an ability so you tokens wouldn't be as strong. 3 mana is also fairly espensive. We would want to slow the game down more. I might suggest Luminarch Ascension being this is a value control deck. It helps keep card advantage and if you are holding mana you can sink it here at the end step.
- Manamorphose also seems pretty good in the deck its a spell that gives you your mana back/fixes it into any of your needed colors and is card neutral.
- Hard Evidence might be replaced with Slight of Hand or Serum Visions being you want to filter your deck better.
- You are sitting a 8 fetchlands i wouldnt go past 6, 6 shock lands is also high Jeskai control is current running 7 fetch and 3 shock lands.
- Consider Mystic Gate Castle Vantress Celestial Colonnade 1x Raugrin Triome Hall of Storm Giants 1x Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire The creature lands can help close games or stall games when needed.They also are more evasive which can help. Utility lands are worth it they really help. Fiery Islet and Sunbaked Canyon can also help draw cards and filter. I run 5 in my burn deck.
- I also think 6 basics is a lot i would only do 2-3 personally. Espically when Seachrome Coast Inspiring Vantage and Spirebluff Canal exist.
- Spectral Procession is a good value card to think about, Lingering Souls is also a card but i wouldnt go that route personally.
- Boros Charm is also a great card that can protect against board wipes or give some burst with a mentor token or just give you the needed reach to close some games.
- Let me know if you want me to look at the deck some more
nbarry223 on [Community Discussion]: Modern Chat
3 years ago
Well, there’s lots of different lands that have lots of different uses in modern. Beyond certain utility lands that are limited to specific colors, there’s various cycles of lands with an equivalent version in most if not all color combinations. There’s some incomplete cycles like the triomes (name may change) which is going to be finished soon, and the draw painlands (not sure what they are called) which started with Horizon Canopy.
Certain cycles are suited to certain uses or needs better than others.
For example, the Horizon Canopy cycle is more suited to aggro decks that end up with more mana than they need as the game goes on.
The filter lands are one of the cycles where you want to limit the number of them in the deck, since they aren’t capable of producing colored mana on their own (I generally only run one for this reason). However, they are some of the best mana-fixing that modern has to offer for greedy manabases. You can take a white mana and make it into 2 blue mana with a Mystic Gate as an example. Reflecting Pool also works similarly to these lands, and is basically a match made in heaven for them, since it only cares about their capability to produce a colored mana source. So you can use a Reflecting Pool to feed a filter land even if those are your only two lands.
For decks that are more minimal colors, basics are better, since they get around a lot of hate. In fact I don’t suggest ever making a deck without at least 2 basics and some ways to find them.
Black and green also have access to urborg and yavimaya which let you tap things for colored mana you couldn’t normally. This helps with painlands and fetches, since you can now tap them without paying life.
There’s plenty of other lands with specific uses, and there isn’t really a right or wrong answer when making a manabase as long as you can consistently have access to the colors you need, and your manabase doesn’t end up killing you with painlands, shocks, fetches, etc. You also want to try to limit the number of lands you’ll have coming into play tapped for obvious reasons.
Also, when using fetches, I generally find that 7 ish fetches is ideal in a generic manabase. If you pick one main color you can basically make it so you can have access to all your color fixing shocks etc no matter what fetch you draw. You can also have two support colors to minimize the number of shocks you actually need to run. Combine with the aforementioned urborg or yavimaya tricks, and you can really minimize the number of shocks needed.
If your manabase isn’t heavily leaning towards a certain color and is basically a main color with a splash of a second you can run a lot more basics and a minimal amount of fetches with basically the same consistency and deck thinning, with less life loss.
There’s also things like Gemstone Caverns or Grove of the Burnwillows which have niche uses. You can’t really have a one answer cure all for what manabase is ideal for what deck, since most decks have different needs.
Also, if running legendary lands, I don’t generally suggest running more than 2 copies of each, unless you can do something with them in multiples like the channel lands.
jaminfine on
ranar
3 years ago
I recommend replacing Conjurer's Closet with Teleportation Circle One less mana for a slightly stronger effect.
I'd also recommend adding Skycloud Expanse as a cheap mana fixing land for Azorius.
Having a Tundra surprises me, as the rest of your mana base seems pretty basic. But if you're willing to spend a bit, I would consider adding Mystic Gate in as well.
I also really like Venser, the Sojourner for this deck as another Conjurer's Closet type effect. If you're okay with infinite combos, I'd recommend you add Peregrine Drake. When combined with Deadeye Navigator, you get infinite mana, ETBs, and LTBs.
vecuu on
Bant Commander
3 years ago
Mana talk:
Minimizing taplands is generally good but expensive (as you know). Plan to eventually replace stuff like the Vivids, snow-duals, and whatever the shorthand for Transguild Promenade is (which, btw, this is twice as slow as a normal tapped land and should 100% be replaced). Yes, even eventually replace the 'gain 1 life' lands that I love :(
I don't know the exact recommended land count. I see as low as 29 (with lots of 0cmc extra expensive cards) and as high as low 40s. I've been targeting 35ish with another 7-8 mana rocks, but I'm not in Green. In Green, you can run 2cmc ramp spells instead of 2cmc mana rocks. like Rampant Growth, Sakura-Tribe Elder, and Farseek.
With all of your land-tutor creatures, make sure you have enough targets. Since you're Chulane, erring on more lands overall might be better?
2 mana rocks like Azorius Signet and Arcane Signet are going be substantially stronger than 3cmc stuff like Selesnya Locket.
Cheatsheet and hyperlinks:
Shocklands: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Shock_land
Fetchlands: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Fetch_land
Filterlands: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Filter_land
Checklands: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Check_land
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