Whenever an opponent draws a card, that player may pay . If the player doesn't, you create a colourless Treasure artifact token with ", Sacrifice this artifact: Gain one mana of any colour."
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Smothering Tithe occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.08%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.08%
WB (Orzhov): 0.85%
Smothering Tithe Discussion
4 days ago
so, after rigorous playtesting, I have come up with some cards to cut and add that will hopefully msk the deck better:
Alabaster Kirin This does absolutely nothing, has no prison effects, and is kinda useless here
Baird, Steward of Argive His prison effect is okay, but you can definitely slot in better options for not too much more money
Knight of Sursi Once again, just a vanilla card that doesn't do anything except get a small body on the battlefield, which isnt very good in commander, even if it is indestructible
Misthoof Kirin Only really okay in a morph deck, this is kinda useless here
Segovian Angel a 1/1 with vigilance has to swing 120 times to win. just a terrible card all around.
Silver Knight Kinda bad, doesn't really do much .
Shepherd of the Lost this would be good if it have every other creature it's abilities, but alas, it's kinda terrible, especially because I'm smelling a voltron sub-theme around Avacyn
White Knight Unless your in a very black heavy meta, this is just bad, and is barley passable even if you have said meta
All your lands except basic plains. You need more utility lands, not just non-basics that do nothing
Wing Shards This one is debatable, although I don't see you casting a bunch of spells and having the mana to cast this, due to the lack of ramp you have.
Armillary Sphere bad ramp
Traveler's Amulet bad ramp
Orazca Relic have fun waiting 5 turns to get blessing and then only drawing one card
Take Vengeance crappy removal
Bishop of Wings I don't see this deck supporting an angel tribal
all the Moxen, while expensive, they are amazing and can let you ramp to Avacyn as soon as turn 3
Sol Ring amazing ramp
Thran Dynamo amazing ramp
Commander's Sphere great ramp
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben super good stax/prison
Sphere of Safety typically opponents will have to pay 3-4 for each attacking creature. brutal
Sword of Fire and Ice really good equipment that deals with the two most problematic colors to this deck, however it's very expensive.
Path to Exile great removal
Blazing Archon if you're playing prison with Avacyn out, you basically can't lose
Windborn Muse STAXXXXX
Pacifism good removal
Norn's Annex great way to both deter your opponents and punish them for attacking you
Smothering Tithe you will be generating a TON of mana
Crawlspace amazing pillow fort card
Archangel of Tithes amazing pillow fort, and has the flavor bonus of being an angel
Felidar Sovereign you will probably always have 40 or more life, especially with all the stax you're throwing around, so easy wincon
Approach of the Second Sun another great wincon
Aegis of the Gods great for not getting burned out
Generous Gift awesome removal
Teferi's Protection because teferi's protection
Elixir of Immortality amazing card to clutch up with
Thought Vessel good ability plus some ramp
Homeward Path great land
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx always great in a mono colored deck. Even better with Avacyn's triple-cost
Maze of Ith great utility land
Tectonic Edge great land destruction
Field of Ruin great land destruction
Thanks so much for reading my list, and I hope this has been some help to you. My main problem with this deck was it ran too much inefficient removal and bad creatures, but once these are added in, I think the deck should be a lot for mean. Have a great day! =)
5 days ago
KayneMarco I had considered each of these. My only problem with Cryptolith Rite is I don't know what to cut to fit it in without making it overly redundant as I already have the whole set of super mana dorks. It's my same problem with Joraga Treespeaker because I cut this list down from 170 candidates and had to make a bunch of sacrifices to streamline the overall point of the deck. I had a friend ask why I didn't throw in Skullclamp and it's simply because unless I use it very early on everything I field will be well beyond skullclamp range.
6 days ago
No worries, but yes generally commander doesn't actually use sideboards or wish lists, but then it is also generally a casual format so you can talk with the other players in your playgroup to see if they're okay with having a "sideboard" to swap things out with. Depending on your group, they may even be okay with you using normally banned cards if you ask them about using them. As long as it's not some kind of official event or some such, then it's not a big deal as long as everyone is okay with it. Communication with your group is always key to a good time!
As for the artifacts and other colorless spells go, as long as the costs don't have the symbol but instead have the numbers in the cost (ex: ) then that's considered "generic mana", which can be paid by any kind of mana regardless of color. Wastes are generally used for very specific cards and abilities, most notably for something like Kozilek, the Great Distortion . In this deck, there isn't anything that requires mana, so the Wastes are kind of... well, wasted. Dual lands and other lands that can give you multiple colored mana are extremely important for any multi-colored deck. It's not bad to have some basic lands, but they can only take you so far without the right ramp cards to bring the colors you need out, and without green that becomes much more difficult. I'd definitely swap in a Command Tower , and given the cost of the deck I'd imagine you shouldn't have trouble tracking down some shock lands like Steam Vents , Watery Grave , etc. as well as maybe some fetch lands like Flooded Strand . Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse are also common in a lot of multi-colored commander decks as well. Exotic Orchard is another good one since chances are you won't be up against only mono-green decks. Since you have access to white, you can also consider the enchantment Smothering Tithe , which is fantastic for ramp and can also play into the artifact theme. Dockside Extortionist is also extremely great for treasures as well.
Also, I know it doesn't give colored mana, but I noticed you don't have Sol Ring included. While it's arguable that not every deck needs it, in a deck where artifacts are a big deal I can't imagine not including such a useful card. A one-drop artifact that gives you two mana and isn't restricted by any colors is so good! I'd definitely consider slotting one in if you can. Some other things you might like are Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain for the card advantage and Hellkite Tyrant to steal your opponents' artifacts as well as give you a nifty alternate wincon!
Anyway, I hope I'm not sounding overly critical. Breya is a cool commander, and I think the deck can have a lot of potential. I'm hoping my suggestions will help you get more out of the deck and help it to be a force to be reckoned with! Best of luck!
1 week ago
Much better decklist! I'm glad to see your manabase has rounded out and you have an actual removal suite along with the previously suggested pillow fort pieces. I know you got on me about not suggesting what to cut - and well...really it depends on what direction you want your deck to go in. I think you're too concerned with playing low to the ground spells - in a sense, you're thinking a little too aggro for the commander you have. Voltron is inherently slow - the idea is that you'll eventually have so many enchantments that the opponent(s) will have zero options available to them to get rid of your commander (outside of maybe an overloaded Winds of Abandon ). You don't need to focus on getting a ton of low CMC spells - what you need to focus on are spells that can make an impact at every point in the game.
Revisiting our talk about Land Tax - so after re-examining it, it can help you late game if you are behind someone in lands: You thin out the lands in your deck to increase the chances that your next draw step will get you an actual useful card. My only reservation is that of the 34 lands in your deck, only 12 are basics. I'm not sure how often the previously mentioned scenario will occur, but I think that Pir's Whim and Sylvan Scrying will be more beneficial to you as you will probably want to tutor non-basic lands over x number of basics. (This is all my opinion, so take it worth a grain of salt.) Yes, I know they cost more than , but your concern over having lower mana costs and wanting to get your commander out ASAP makes your deck too linear and vulnerable. The hallmark of having a good EDH deck is to be able to win games where you don't even cast your commander. If the table can just stop your commander from coming into play, or possibly remove it once or twice - what's your back up? What I think is that you need to favor flexibility and board control over sheer aggro and low CMC.
Here's what I'd consider cutting:
- Land Tax - like I said before, can only tutor you up basic lands and thin out your library. This isn't what you need. You need to focus on getting those utility lands. I'd toss in the only true ramp white has in this card's place - Smothering Tithe . Don't hand me that "Uhhh but I don't have a mana dump" argument. If you believed that, then you wouldn't have included a powerful mana doubler like Mirari's Wake . Cut this stupid spell, you don't run enough basics to justify it being in the deck, and it's not consistent. Smothering Tithe will net you more mana in the short and long run. Your deck isn't aggro, so vs. doesn't matter.
- Day of Judgment - your deck has plenty of removal and mass removal options. I think this one is just a little redundant unless you intend on combining it with Yavimaya Hollow . But even then, Divine Reckoning and Winds of Rath save you from having to use to get the previously mentioned land. I still say cut it. In it's place use Smothering Tithe . It's the only true ramp white has. It's a very good spell - try it. Trust me. And don't hand me that "I don't have a mana dump" argument, if you really believed that, then you wouldn't have included Mirari's Wake .
- Farseek - Since you are in only two colors, this card doesn't really do you much good. I'd cut this for Sylvan Scrying
- Gaddock Teeg - You aren't exactly playing Stax, so this card is kind of useless. On top of it potentially being a nonbo or (non-combo) with some spells, like overloaded Winds of Abandon or Eldrazi Conscription . I'd use Aura of Silence in it's place.
1 week ago
So you're finally using my deck site of choice, huh? Well i'll start off by giving the advice that I give to pretty much everyone else start off: Make a better deck description. The best example(s) are in the following articles by Epochalyptik: Do you want to write a Primer? and Getting more views on your decks. Now, I understand you're a busy man who is on a constant Path of Exile binge/raising a baby - but if you take some time to think and write about how your deck plays you'll have a better understanding of the synergies/combos in it. More importantly, if you have any misconceptions and don't realize it folks here on TappedOut can pick up on that and point out your mistake because it's listed in a detailed deck description. I know, it may seem like a pain but in the long run it's totally worth it. Oh, and one more thing - writing a deck description is in my opinion another form of self expression for deck building that can feel therapeutic. At least, that's my thinking.
So, my whole rant on that is over - now what do I think about your deck? After playing it for so long I can give a somewhat educated opinion: in 1v1, it's insanely strong and can easily tear a player apart. But, unfortunately it does very poorly when facing more than one opponent...which is kind of like the basis of EDH. To address that, I think you're definitely headed in the right direction with tax and soft lock effects like Sphere of Safety - but you need to go deeper. I suggest adding in more cards to supplement that - to deter your opponents from going wide: Ghostly Prison and Dueling Grounds will help. Also, as a player you do have one very distinct weakness - you don't use politics very well. Your desire to win is obvious - and that can be intimidating to the rest of the table when Sigarda or Serra Ascendant is on the battlefield wrecking (usually my) house. So, you should consider adding some more control: Settle the Wreckage and Divine Reckoning are good for making the board or one player turn and swing all in on you.
Another thing - I've noticed that your deck has a tendency to putter out. Ether you have mana problems or draw problems. I know you do have a ridiculously low mana count, as 29 is NOT enough for this EDH deck. I recommend at least 35 lands, no more than 38 though. But to also help with your tempo, i'd try Smothering Tithe and Abundance - which combos with the already included Sylvan Library . Each draw trigger for Library is replaced with a tutor effect for land or non-land (as specified by Abundance ). Get those two enchantments out, and you'll get three tutors per turn that go straight to hand. You know I run it in my Zacama deck - The Predator of Predators, and it's amazing. This is probably one of the best draw combos in mono-green, let alone Selesnya. I think it would be beneficial for you to run it.
Last but certainly not least, I have an odd suggestion for you - try out Grafted Exoskeleton . No one else can target Sigarda to remove her...so why not give her an equipment that not only gives you an amazing alternate wincon, but uh...also makes players regret blocking even more. Just a thought. Also, I think the inclusion of Serra the Benevolent would be cool, and flavorful. Don't know how much success you'll get with her - but she is cool. We'll definitely talk more about your deck - probably at our next game. Good luck, I hope my suggestions help! - oh, and before I forget i'll throw your deck an upvote.
1 week ago
Amun: The point of Darksteel Citadel , Flagstones of Trokair , and Cascading Cataracts is because I run Armageddon . Having Crucible of Worlds would be really good for this deck but I don't have anything that can search for it expect Enlightened Tutor . So the odds of getting those cards and then Armageddon is to much chance so I'd rather just chance it with lands, besides card like Land Tax , Luminarch Ascension , and Smothering Tithe can still work really well with no lands.
If this deck gets ahead I can easily go over 7 cards with Well of Lost Dreams , Mind's Eye , The Immortal Sun , and Alhammarret's Archive so Reliquary Tower can help. However, if you have any land suggestions to swap those out please let me know!
Thanks again for checking out my deck!