Torbran, Thane of Red Fell
Legendary Creature — Dwarf Noble
If a red source you control would deal damage to an opponent or a permanent an opponent controls, it deals that much damage plus 2 instead.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Torbran, Thane of Red Fell Discussion
4 days ago
Hey, interesting budget version of Kykar.
Lots of burn here doesn't have enough oomph when each opponent will have 40 or more life. Glacial Ray, Magma Spray, Lightning Helix and other single effect burn spells like this are subpar in multiplayer Commander. Flame Rift doesn't do enough, hitting all players for 4 damage a single time is not worth a card. Even being able to flashback these spells with Backdraft Hellkite isn't good enough because they're only doing damage to one player. Some advice is research Torbran, Thane of Red Fell burn decks and mimic the burn strategy with Kykar?
Barbs and Earth seem like very good repeatable burn sources with Kykar since have lots of mana rocks (could have more), Spirits can make red mana and playing lots of basic lands. Tremors and Goblin Bombardment want an infinite combo for they're burn that can create infinite tokens with Kykar or Saheeli, Sublime Artificer.
By adding this budget combo you add some more competitiveness to your deck and Guttersnipe is another burn win condition with the combo. You can't do this combo if you control Spellshock. But with Jeskai you have many options that can bounce/tuck/destroy an enchantment before comboing while still keeping it in your control to burn your opponents until you want to combo.
What Kykar provides for a burn strategy is extra damage from attacking with fliers, 1/1 Spirits and Kykar. Animosity can make Spirits more of attacking threats and with a lot of them a win condition. Consider increasing the fort with Obedience and Prison? Obedience can also be a nice source of repeatable life gain with extort since you gain life each time equal to the number of opponents you have.
Consider adding more draw as well as more mana efficient draw to expand on spellslinger?
Tandem Lookout when soulbond to a creature who can do damage to an opponent or all opponents you draw cards. Use this interaction with Guttersnipe since when he does damage you draw a number of cards equal to the number of opponents you have. Zo-Zu the Punisher is also good with Lookout because all players can play lands including yourself to draw. Lookout can change who it's soulbond to which is really helpful to first soulbond with flying Kykar or a Spirit and then change when a creature ETB who can do damage to opponents.
Some cards to consider cutting:
- Fog Bank
- Essence Backlash
- Boros Fury-Shield
- Glacial Ray
- Magma Spray
- Momentary Blink
- Lightning Helix
- Faith's Shield
- Flame Rift
- Not Forgotten
- Martyr's Cause
- Backdraft Hellkite
Good luck with your deck.
1 week ago
Torbran, Thane of Red Fell pra transformar cada ping do Niv em um Bolt? :D
Thassa's Oracle custa umas moedinhas mas é uma boa opção pra quando você comba infinito mas não tem cartas suficientes pra matar todo mundo.
Com esse monte de draw não vale a pena alguma daquelas cartas de draw-two de Eldraine? Tipo Improbable Alliance.
3 weeks ago
You could also use Expedition Map type effects to get lands and let you shuffle. Also suggest Windfall, because it can kill out the table. Could also suggest maybe Narset, Parter of Veils as a stop button in case your commander gets killed (also very good with scroll rack). Psychosis Crawler could Also be very useful. Maybe Torbran, Thane of Red Fell would speed up your Clock. Those are not directly related to what you asked originally, but they're things to consider. Hope it helps
4 weeks ago
1 month ago
Man, I had my fun with cavalcade deck and by looking at your deck, I would like to tell you about few suggestion (I am no pro player, just want to share what worked for me)
- I do not see any extra card draw, don't you have problem with getting zero card hand after few turns? What about Light Up the Stage ?
- Raid Bombardment seems useless. Cost one more mana than Cavalcade + without extra card draw, I would be scared to run into hand when I have only enchantements and no creatures after board wipe
- I am not a big fan of Chandra's Pyreling since it do not have trample and can be blocked with 1/1. I prefer Chandra's Spitfire + Torch Courier for surprise.
- Grim Initiate + Heartfire was pretty good. Also Initiate have first strike so you may strike for 1 and THEN sacrifice it to the face, boosting Spitfire even more.
- Torbran, Thane of Red Fell for extra boost.
1 month ago
Most EDH decks are going to want 11-ish ramp (extra mana) effects, 10-ish draw effects (that doesn't mean scry!), 36-ish lands, 11-ish interaction pieces (that means 8 things like Chaos Warp , Abrade , Path to Exile , Counterspell , etc., and 3 board wipes like the best of the ones you already have), and then the rest of the deck dedicated to exactly what your strategy is, basically--here that would mean the best available burn spells, some damage increasers ( Torbran, Thane of Red Fell is great), and a few (note I said few!) protection effects.
2 months ago
I always find that monored EDH decks tend to have an issue getting enough cards in hand. I could see that being an issue here, especially with the "free" play abilities you have in! Some things that could help are cards like
Cavalier of Flame
Mask of Memory
, Neheb, Dreadhoard Champion, and
Some non-creature cards that might have good synergy for the deck are Commander's Plate , Skullclamp , Whispersilk Cloak , Worldslayer , Embercleave , Mirage Mirror , Aggravated Assault , Gratuitous Violence , Chaosphere , and Sorrow's Path .
Some other creatures that could help are Breaker of Armies , Void Winnower , Marton Stromgald , Urabrask the Hidden , Legion Loyalist , Hellkite Charger , Flamerush Rider , Torbran, Thane of Red Fell , Soulbright Flamekin , and Siege Dragon . Also, any eldrazi if you wanna be that mean, especially the original set with annihilator.
The sacrifice clause on Purphoros can also have some fun opportunity, especially with cards like Blood Aspirant , Mycosynth Wellspring , and Ancient Stone Idol .
Oh! And if you do end up with that many mountains, Jaws of Stone , Landslide , Spawn of Thraxes , and Spire Barrage , could all be ridiculously powerful late-game!
2 months ago
Torbran, Thane of Red Fell , in case anyone was wondering :)