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Torbran, Thane of Red Fell
Legendary Creature — Dwarf Noble
If a red source you control would deal damage to an opponent or a permanent an opponent controls, it deals that much damage plus 2 instead.
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3 weeks ago
1 month ago
In efforts to improve the consistency of the mana base, I am starting to remove the lands that come in tapped no matter what and replacing them with either a basic or a cycling land for card draw. Also, Torbran didn't seem worth the effort when I drew him - one reason being his 3x casting cost was often troublesome and +2 damage didn't seem worth it compared to Rakdos, who will hopefully save me mana in the long run - we shall see!
2 months ago
Anyways with that whole kickstarter thing going on I noticed that the professor hasn't made a video so in case anyone was wondering
Some regular guys non-foil/foil
Void Winnower - 16.07/20.46
Vengevine - 10.71/12.95
Collector Ouphe - 5.63/33.07
Goblin Settler - 48.71/N/a
Non foil: 81.12 Foil: 115.19
Foil: B / non-foil: C+
There's a good bit of value with this secret lair. Goblin settlers getting its' first foil printing is definitely noteworthy. Also, if you're into the Adventure Time art style you'll like be picking this up anyways.
Showcase: Streets of New Capenna
Atraxa, Praetors' Voice - 30.77/35.53
Breya, Etherium Shaper - 7.98/9.84
Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder - N/A/8.84
Non-foil: 47.59 foil: 54.21
Non-foil - D foil: C-
This grade pains me because I REALLY think the art on these is beautiful and they'll likely include a Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis in the same style as a bonus card but putting personal preferance and speculation aside the value just is not here.
Special Guest: Matt Jukes Foil Edition
Glacial Fortress - 3.71/11.25
Drowned Catacomb - 7.28/17.46
Dragonskull Summit - 3.79/6.96
Rootbound Crag - 3.81/6.55
Sunpetal Grove - 3.89/5.96
Non-foil: 22.48 foil: 48.18
Non-foil - F foil - D-
The value in these really speaks for itself.
Artist Series: Magali Villeneuve
Mother of Runes - 4.91/Varies
Death's Shadow - 6.12/10.19
Elvish Mystic - .45/9.97
Forest - N/A
Non-foil - 11.48 Foil: N/A
Non-foil - F Foil - D-
The biggest thing out of this lair is the foil Mother of Runes the prices fluctuates so much with the older foils it's hard to set an exact price to obtain a foil one; if we look at the previous secret lairs those versions of Mother of Runes are sitting at about 6-10 a piece.
Artist Series: Sidharth Chaturvedi
Concordant Crossroads - 46.87/N/A
Nomad Outpost - 1.06/5.74
Ghost Quarter - 1.12/16.90
Island - N/A
Non-foil: 49.05 foil: 69.51
Non-foil: D- foil: C
Essentially this lair is being carried by the fact that Concordant Crossroads only has 1 printing and has never had a foil printing. If you need one or would like to get a foil one knows your chance but outside of that its just some bulky cards with nice art.
Artist Series: Wayne Reynolds
Sram, Senior Edificer - .25/6.09
Torbran, Thane of Red Fell - .95/1.89
Depala, Pilot Exemplar - .23/1.65
Balthor the Defiled - 10.95/59.61
Non-foil: 12.38 Foil: 69.24
Non-foil - F Foil - C
This lair is also being carried by 1 card that has only 1 printing the rest is bulk.
Finally! Left-Handed Magic Cards
Sisay, Weatherlight Captain - .98/6.02
Empress Galina - 18.31/206.82
Geralf's Messenger - 9.89/34.48
Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh - .26/.41
Garruk, Caller of Beasts - 8.20/23.41
Non-foil: 37.64 foil; 271.14
Non-foil - C Foil: A
While Empress Galina is definitely the chase card out of this; it still has value in the other slots too outside of Roger - but even Roger is still highly playable.
Anyways, after doing all the math and putting this all together I appreciate the professor doing this and compiling it a video format. Also, which secret lairs if any are you planning to get?
2 months ago
How often do you find that Saheeli's Directive gives you misses? Most of your recursion seems focused, understandably, on artifacts, but it is the non-artifacts that that card whiffs on. If that whiffs often enough, or on things powerful enough, maybe that is where Torbran, Thane of Red Fell could slot in?
2 months ago
I love the character and the primer both!
I know that you are keeping your creature count low, but Kamahl was talking to me about how, after Balthor's unfortunate zombification, he was making friends with another dwarf: Torbran, Thane of Red Fell. Do you think you have room for his buddy?
2 months ago
Looks like a great list so far. Thoughts on these? Berserkers' Onslaught, Gratuitous Violence, Champion of Stray Souls, Gadrak, the Crown-Scourge, Torbran, Thane of Red Fell, Void Beckoner, Basilisk Collar, Vorpal Sword, Brood of Cockroaches, Midnight Reaper, Syr Konrad, the Grim
2 months ago
I just want to point out that you could do a Rakdos commander deck and have both your pain/punishment as well as lifegain matters in the same deck.
As you already stated, Mogis would have Tobran in his 99. Why not Vito and other lifegain shenanigans?
Cards like Torbran, Thane of Red Fell or Brash Taunter using its fight ability while Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose activated or anything that does big damage equipped with stuff like Basilisk Collar, Batterskull, Shadowspear, Whip of Erebos, and Mask of Griselbrand.
I like the sound of a Tobran/Vito deck with say Obosh, the Preypiercer as your commander? Or keep Mogis for his inevitability.
2 months ago
I'm stuck between two different strategies and for each of them I'm stuck between mono color or dual color commanders. Im looking at a pain/punisher deck or a lifegain matters deck. What I need is advice on which of the two commanders you think would fair better for each strategy and why. Which of the two to go with I will have to figure out myself. Budget generally is less than $10-15 a card but cheaper is always better :) I do have most of the more expensive staples (think Craterhoof Behemoth, Wheel of Fortune, Demonic Tutor ect.) however.
Torbran, Thane of Red Fell vs Mogis, God of Slaughter: this is a pain/burn/punisher deck. My question is, is the addition of black with admittedly more pain options and tutors/draw worth Torbran's ability to break parity? They'd run the same gambit of cards for the most part but Spellshock is much more damming with Torbran out and readily available. Mogis would run Torbran in the 99 though.
Dina, Soul Steeper vs Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose: again both like lifegain but Dina prefers quantity over quality whereas Vito is the opposite. I do not own Exquisite Blood (my idiot self traded it away years ago) so that combo probably isn't going to be included. However I am aware of Dina's combo with Witherbloom Apprentice and Chain of Smog which I can pull together. Vito with Blood Tribute will one shot an opponent. You could also run a lifelink creature and pump it with +1/+1 counters through Unspeakable Symbol to gain a ton of life and dome someone with Vito. I also own Aetherflux Reservoir so I can death star someone down with either commander. Crypt Rats with lifelink could also cause some huge shenanigans with Vito.
I've built and play tested some preliminary decks (on tappedout) and I'm leaning towards Torbran/Vito. Just need a slap of reality if I'm wrong :)