Hinterland Harbor

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Hinterland Harbor

Land

Hinterland Harbor enters the battlefield tapped unless you control a Forest or an Island.

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Drayven9309 on Adrix & Nev, Multi-Tokes

1 month ago

Regarding your land base I see you're running Misty Rainforest, but not any of the lands it's 'meant' to fetch - these are dual lands that still have land types and are thus fetchable. Tropical Island, Breeding Pool etc. I don't think you need to run Misty as you're only in two colours and green is the king of ramp, so you're unlikely to be hurting for the right colours as well as cutting 1/10th of your deck's cost.

I don't like to spend a lot of money on my land base (especially in only two colours) but there are some cheap dual lands that are good to throw in, these come in untapped if you fulfill certain conditions (which are reasonably easy to obtain, especially in green) Dreamroot Cascade, Flooded Grove, Hinterland Harbor, Vineglimmer Snarl.

(Simic Growth Chamber is fine to keep - make sure you are bouncing a land you've already tapped for mana though, pro tip)

This is just my opinion so take this with a grain of salt. But I would replace the following lands

Myriad Landscape enters tapped, you're in two colours, one being green so you've got better ramp choices.

Blighted Woodland green has better ramp than this.

Lumbering Falls unless I'm missing something you don't need the utility of having a man-land.

Misty Rainforest expensive mana-fixing and you don't have the other lands needed to make full use of it, and again green has all the ramp options.

Temple of Mystery, Thornwood Falls can be replaced by dual lands that usually come in untapped.

Rejuvenating Springs is fine but I prefer cheaper options.

Again, my opinion, but you seem light on removal and ramp while heavy on land. Most decks run 33-36 land, being in green you could probably get away with 33. Try throwing in some of these Nature's Lore/Three Visits, Vastwood Surge, Growth Spiral, Migration Path, Ordeal of Nylea has some synergy, and if you put it on a creature that already has two or more counters on it, you can sacrifice it the same turn you play it. This is by far a non exhaustive list so feel free to google simic ramp and see what other options there are.

As for removal you'll want to make sure you have removal for not only creatures, but other non-land permanents mainly artifacts and enchantments which can sometimes be difficult depending on your colours (I'm assuming you won't have to deal with problematic lands most of the time). Pongify, Curse of the Swine and, Reality Shift are good picks (Curse of the Swine-ing yourself to create lots of piggies is never not funny and unexpected.)

You don't seem to have any boardwipes, these are cards that, in a panic let you just erase everything from the Battlefield (barring lands, usually) and can be great for when your opponent(s) are simply getting ahead of you in terms of having a developed board-state. The best one you have available is Cyclonic Rift but is a bit pricey, others include Wash Out, Evacuation, Devastation Tide and, Nevinyrral's Disk (for an actual board wipe). Unfortunately Blue really only has options that return things to hand instead of thoroughly destroying or exiling and Green straight up has nothing except anti-flying. They do most of their removal through fighting.

This is turning into an absolute wall of text and I'm getting lazy so I'm just gonna finish here by copying a comment from a YouTube video

Ramp: 10-12

Card Draw: 10

Single Target Removal: 10-12

Board Wipes: 3

Lands: 33-38

Standalone (cards that are effective by themselves/with commander): 25

Enhancers (cards that amplify or are amplified by standalones or commander): 10-12

Enablers (covers a weakness or fills a gap in your strategy): 7-8

Cards on your theme: 30(ish)

Consider overlaps (cards that count in multiple categories) and partials (cards that count as 'half' in a given category. E.g. scry 2 as half a card draw card)

Corrus555 on Green/blue sea monsters copy

2 months ago

Alright let's get dorky. So you want more consistent game and early game. I like your mana ramp and some big boys, I just feel you don't have the early game, you wait for your own board state to get big but only have counter spells to remove threats.

My first list of cards I think can be removed for either lower cost cards or the effects arnt good enough. Urban Evolution to much mana for 3 card draw, the extra land drop isnt enough to justify the mana cost. Seer's Sundial is decent but the recuring cost will slow you down. But with a card like Horn of Greed ,everyone getst the card draw but you should be hitting a land drop every turn realistically. Horn of Greed isnt good with cards that put them onto the battlefield, but playing additional lands will trigger it multiple times for you, free effect for doing what your commander does. it will pay for itself in two turns. Acidic Slime its just slow,I like this better than itWickerbough Elder. Reclamation Sage is better and often the land doesnt matter unless its super competative. or Beast Within will help you with the land removal. meh Stumpsquall Hydra do you really need your CMDR bigger?? slow Sporemound Elder Deep-Fiend meh? like any combos or anything with this? Sharktocrab its cool, but you can only do the effect once, and you dont care about counters, but i see its good for the octopus creature type. Stormtide Leviathan often shoots people in their own foot if you dont have the bottom requirement on your creatures.

lands I dislike,Vivid Creek Vivid Grove tapped and only good for two turns? lands I like are Evolving Wilds Simic Growth Chamber Thornwood Falls Molimo, Maro-Sorcerer better version below. Below link are slow fetches if money is a concern, but you can run them outside your color because they dont have the mana symbol, to bad you can't run other bounce lands. https://www.mtglands.com/main-slowfetches.html https://tappedout.net/mtg-questions/bounce-lands-outside-commanders-color-identity/

Decent cards to replace with Hydra Broodmaster. Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar If you go graveyard recursion consistently she isn't bad Titania, Protector of Argoth if youre using fetches and such. If you do graveyardWorld Shaper The Mending of Dominaria Springbloom Druid early blocker,Harrow Crop Rotation crop R triggers your commander and only costs one. for any land. Zendikar's Roil this doesnt get removed by board clears and makes bigger than 1/1 spores.

Skyshroud Claim any forests. if you do dual shock lands. Fabled Passage if you have the $$$. Myriad Landscape if no $$$. Slippery Karst its good with graveyard synergy but often its cycled unless you need it the first few turns to get to land searches like Cultivate

The best card you should get Azusa, Lost but Seeking Roil Elemental Rapid Hybridization one cost removal of commander worth it. Tatyova, Benthic Druid you need cards that do similar effects as your commander so they cant just shut your deck down with one removal of your CMDR.

Tutor for your big guysFierce Empath This will pay for itslef in one turn Lotus Cobra Good long game card in my opinion that can be used for sac outlet and mana sink to pay into Tireless Tracker

Lands I like Terrain Generator Temple of the False God Hinterland Harbor cheaper than dual shocks, Thats Breeding Pool this is a dual shock land.

Late game cards that are VeRy NiCe but extra Praetor's Counsel Tooth and Nail

To battlefieldWood Elves Farhaven Elf and to hand Sylvan Ranger Ulvenwald Hydra these early game guys get you lands and can chump block, which means you block them with anything big they throw at you, assuming it doesn't have trample

Plenty of more expensive fixes but this is a good start, Let me know if you got some $$$ so I can recommend that. Most these cards should be under 10$ ish.

SufferFromEDHD on I came here to draw cards and kick ass

3 months ago

Those that know, know, and those that don't never will

9-lives on 4-color Jeskai splash green (Altruism?)

4 months ago

Ahh thanks a bunch, Gidgetimer! I'm only using 4x green cards with the rest being a balanced jeskai. But the only problem is that I don't like to sacrifice life for an effect. Life is our currency in this game, and I am purposely avoiding black for that very reason. I guess I could swap out Mystic Monastery and a 2x Mountain and some of the other dual lands. Perhaps for some dual lands like Hinterland Harbor and Rootbound Crag?? Maybe 6 of those? Considering I'm running quite a few check lands and some triomes, I think that if I go over 60 cards in my deck, I'll just run extra lands regardless. Can't hurt to lower chances of drawing other cards if I'm running extra land. mAlthough, I have to say, I'm running budget. So shock lands and check lands etc. are ot of my grasp. I'll have to settle for running cards I already own of Chromatic Lantern. Can't hurt to run this, and it works well for my manabase of WUR+G colors whenever it is added.

HydraOoze on Zaxara

10 months ago

Fun looking deck. If your looking to speed up the deck focusing on your land base is a good place to start. I’d add all the lands in the Hinterland Harbor , Dreamroot Cascade cycles of lands since they reliably can come in untapped. You can also add Freed from the Real and Pemmin's Aura for infinite mana combos with Zaaxara. Also Exsanguinate is another good finisher.

vecuu on Bant Commander

10 months ago

Mana talk:

Minimizing taplands is generally good but expensive (as you know). Plan to eventually replace stuff like the Vivids, snow-duals, and whatever the shorthand for Transguild Promenade is (which, btw, this is twice as slow as a normal tapped land and should 100% be replaced). Yes, even eventually replace the 'gain 1 life' lands that I love :(

I don't know the exact recommended land count. I see as low as 29 (with lots of 0cmc extra expensive cards) and as high as low 40s. I've been targeting 35ish with another 7-8 mana rocks, but I'm not in Green. In Green, you can run 2cmc ramp spells instead of 2cmc mana rocks. like Rampant Growth, Sakura-Tribe Elder, and Farseek.

With all of your land-tutor creatures, make sure you have enough targets. Since you're Chulane, erring on more lands overall might be better?

2 mana rocks like Azorius Signet and Arcane Signet are going be substantially stronger than 3cmc stuff like Selesnya Locket.

Cheatsheet and hyperlinks:

Shocklands: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Shock_land

Temple Garden

Hallowed Fountain

Breeding Pool

Fetchlands: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Fetch_land

Flooded Strand

Windswept Heath

Misty Rainforest

Filterlands: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Filter_land

Mystic Gate

Wooded Bastion

Flooded Grove

Checklands: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Check_land

Glacial Fortress

Sunpetal Grove

Hinterland Harbor

Balaam__ on A.P. Bio with Mr. Wizard

1 year ago

Thanks depthcharge2, I appreciate it. Glad to hear you were able to budgetize this in a way that works for you. Misty Rainforest can be approximated easily enough; Barkchannel Pathway  Flip, Hinterland Harbor or Botanical Sanctum should all be fine, or else Thornwood Falls if you’re looking for the cheapest option available.

Surgical Extraction is harder to replace; there’s the financially cheaper Extirpate, but then you’d need to splash black. I’d probably opt for a different card entirely.

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