Sheltered Thicket
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Sheltered Thicket

Land — Mountain Forest

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Sheltered Thicket enters the battlefield tapped.

Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)

Fluggleshmuggits on Cube Eternal

3 months ago

Changelog 12/10/22

Original Dual lands are in
2 color man lands are in
upgrades in every color and almost every guild pair

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multimedia on Sliver Beats

1 year ago

Hey, well done budget version of Silvers, nice Sliver Legion. You forgot Sol Ring.

Manaweft Sliver is another two drop mana Sliver. Shifting Sliver makes all your Slivers unblockable. Venom Sliver gives all deathtouch. These three Slivers could replace three of the higher CMC Slivers that have redundant effects. Blasphemous Act wrecks your opponents with Hivelord as Commander.

Consider more draw?

Wild Pair and Pyre of Heroes are powerful budget repeatable effects to tutor for and cheat Silvers on the battlefield.

Consider cutting a few of the lesser Slivers for more draw?

Nice Shock lands. On a budget you can do better than the Gain lands such as Blossoming Sands and Cycle lands such as Sheltered Thicket. Consider the Tango lands? Since there's 14 basic lands here.

Good luck with your deck.

multimedia on Gruul Werewolf Pack

1 year ago

Hey, interesting high budget version of Tovolar with less Werewolves.

Human Werewolves that don't have day/night still count towards and transform when Tovolar upkeep triggers. The better Werewolves not having day/night is not really a drawback with Tovolar. Because Tovolar can repeatedly change from day to night then you have more chances to transform nonday/night Werewolves. If you play a nonday/night Werewolf after Tovolar transforms that's fine because more than likely Tovolar will flip back daybound giving you another chance to transform all Human Werewolves you control at your upkeep.

If you want to play a small amount of Werewolves then the ones you play really should give you more than just being a Werewolf.

With such a high budget you can do better than the vanilla Werewolves who don't give you anything when they're Humans as well as when they nightbound transform? Many of the Wolves are also subpar compared to all other cards here. If you're playing the Wolves just to be able to upkeep trigger Tovolar faster any Human Werewolf will do the same thing and give you more than any of these Wolves.

Wolves and Werewolves to consider cutting:

Really nice Fetch lands, but consider playing a Forest/Mountain dual land to fetch: Stomping Ground, Cinder Glade, Sheltered Thicket? Adding these lands will also give Farseek a dual land to search for instead of only being able to search for a basic Mountain. Also by adding some Forest/Mountain dual lands then you could improve the land ramp spells with Nature's Lore and Three Visits.

Some changes to consider:

Some other lands that would improve the manabase by cutting some basic lands especially Mountains:

Arcane Signet could replace Herald's Horn since Horn doesn't do much if you're not tribal. With so few Werewolves or Humans as well as many different creature types then a mana rock would make more ramp.

Door of Destinies is another tribal only card and it's very slow with so few Werewolves or Humans to cast. Could cut Door for Beastmaster Ascension since it's an anthem for all creatures you control.

Good luck with your deck.

Gallagher on Illuna, Apex of Omniscience

1 year ago

Super sweet deck. I had the idea to do a Illuna + Omniscience deck, googled it, and found your list. I've got a couple suggestions though.

  1. I think you could use more incidental token production to give you mutate targets. Cards like Lazotep Plating, Emergent Sequence, Growth Spasm, Alrund's Epiphany or Stolen by the Fae could be great ways to create tokens for you to mutate onto, outside of man lands or GSZing for Dryad Arbor or Crop Rotating for Khalni Garden. The more expensive man lands like Lumbering Falls, Wandering Fumarole and Raging Ravine feel especially clunky here as 10 mana to activate them plus mutate is pretty steep. Another angle could be adding a Dwarven Mine, and maybe a Sheltered Thicket and second basic mountain to go along with it, so that your Mire, Mesa, Tarn and Foothills can produce a creature token as well. Kher Keep could be good for this too as it's a repeatable effect.

  2. It seems to me that you don't have enough ways to deterministically win once you get the Omniscience down. Intuition, Gamble and Mystical Tutor + a cantrip, seem like your only ways to reliably find Ignite Memories, and Intuition only gets into your graveyard. You definitely need at least 2 Regrowth / Reclaim effects so that your Intuition always gets you what you want. Bala Ged Recovery  Flip, Mystic Retrieval, and Experimental Overload (since it can make a token too) are all cool options there. Playing those cards to support Intuition also allows you to play Gifts Ungiven and put together similar packages with it. Probably the best card to use to go off with Omniscience is Petals of Insight since it makes the storm count infinitely large and finds you your Ignite Memories all in one card. You could use cards like Solve the Equation or even Eerie Procession to find the Petals since it's an arcane spell. There's also Merchant Scroll which doesn't get you to the sorcery Petals directly, but it can find Firemind's Foresight, which then finds Intuition along with maybe some interaction. Brainstorm, Ponder, Preordain, Faithless Looting and Frantic Search all seem fine here as they're useful both before and after you get your Omni down. Spells like Time Twister and Time Spiral seem less good though, as there's a fair chance you could fizzle after casting them even with an Omniscience out. Enter the Infinite, Praetor's Counsel, Insurrection, Volcanic Vision, or Mnemonic Deluge also work as finishers if you want to do something bigger and splashier with Omniscience out.

  3. Lastly, Sea Gate Restoration  Flip, Valakut Awakening  Flip, and Silundi Vision  Flip all could be sensible additions to the mana base that double as ways to start go off with Omni. Not to mention Bala Ged Recovery that I mentioned before as part of the Intuition/Gifts package. Once you start playing any number of those spell lands, it probably then becomes a good idea to include a Gruul Turf or similar land to open up the line of Crop Rotating into a bounce land to return a spell land to hand. Once you're on this land package, Hour of Promise starts to look pretty appealing, as it can find bounce + spell land to start and Omniscience chain, or any number of various creature lands if you need something to mutate onto.

zapyourtumor on

1 year ago

I think you should consider changing up the deck a bit and building around Astral Drift , just because Astral Slide is such a classic cycling deck. With Solitary Confinement being printed in MH2, you can do the cancerous Eternal Witness + Astral Drift + Solitary Confinement lock, plus Containment Priest was also reprinted which means you can exile your opponents creatures permanently with Containment Priest + Astral Drift .

Also, Sheltered Thicket and Scattered Groves would be great lands for this deck.

abby315 on Shattergang Brothers - Sacrifice Control

1 year ago

I would suggest going up to 38 lands. You're only running a few mana dorks, and having 34 lands in EDH is like running 20 lands in a Standard deck - something only the most low-to-the-ground mono-color decks would do. Here's a really helpful article for thinking about manabases in EDH. (The article actually suggests around 40 lands for a midrange deck, but I think that's a little excessive...)

While we're at it, I would also cut Temple of the False God . It's not a good card and it's especially bad in a 3-color deck!

Even though it sucks to make cuts for lands, you can add utility lands that either cycle or do something in the lategame to make sure you don't get flooded. Here are 5 lands I might consider adding (after cutting Temple) that are not expensive:

Sheltered Thicket
Canyon Slough
Bala Ged Recovery  Flip
Polluted Mire
Barren Moor

And the cards I might cut to make room:
Temple of the False God
Volcanic Geyser
Spine of Ish Sah
Myr Battlesphere
Murder

Finally, Attrition would be a great add to the deck - maybe over Vile Requiem if you're looking for some upgrades!

multimedia on Atla Palani, Eldrazi Mommy

2 years ago

Hey, nice version of Atla. Did you make the Atla alter? It's well done.

Two drop ramp especially Arcane Signet is good with Atla because they can potentially let you cast her turn two with Sol's help or turn three. Consider adding Arcane, Gruul Signet, Boros Signet and Selesnya Signet?

Two drop land ramp can also achieve this with Farseek, Nature's Lore and Three Visits. Cinder Glade, Canopy Vista, but also Sheltered Thicket, Scattered Groves are land upgrades for the manabase that these land ramp spells can search for. Being able to ramp with a dual land really helps color fixing.

Open the Armory is worth adding because it can tutor for Skullclamp, Greaves or Staff, important cards to have more access too. Some other land upgrades to consider are High Market, Opal Palace, Forge of Heroes, Exotic Orchard, Path of Ancestry, Battlefield Forge. Opal and Forge are to put a +1/+1 counter on Alta that way when you combo with Mirror Entity she doesn't die. Adding these lands especially Market makes Crop Rotation worth adding.

Cards to consider cutting:

  • Temple of the False God
  • 4x Plains
  • Blossoming Sands
  • Graypelt Refuge
  • Temple of Abandon
  • Temple of Plenty
  • Temple of Triumph
  • Traveler's Amulet
  • Desolation Twin
  • Circuitous Route
  • Explosive Vegetation
  • Gruul Cluestone
  • Selesnya Cluestone
  • Rampant Growth
  • Oblivion Sower

Good luck with your deck.

A55Destroyer69 on general tazri commander in progress

2 years ago
some of these cards are control cards, put into an aggro deck. So they may be good in some situations, yes, but in a general circumstance they're more likely to be a hinderance than anything

Wrath of God is an okay boardwipe, but really you don't want to potentially devastate your board AND have to wait a turn to rebuild. Most of the time something cheaper will be better - Pyroclasm if you know you're going to face weenies or RDW or something of the like, or Blasphemous Act for just more general decks. Frankly, Blasphemous Act will potentially be worth a mere most of the time against Krenko or Thalisse even. Plus it hits them as well.

Idyllic Tutor finds you an enchantment, but what enchantment do you need? Again, you're playing an aggro deck so you shouldn't be taking your turn 2 or 3 to set up for later; you should be butting heads with anyone and everyone.

Torment of Hailfire is looking so shady here. It's a mid-lategame card that's meant to be used in tandem with heavy removal and attrition, and you're just chucking it in here as what? some sort of a finisher? Sure, it could be a finisher, but I think it needs to be somewhat built around / synergised with to actually be a viable pickup.

Replace Yarok, the Desecrated with Panharmonicon. cheaper and not colour-reliant. Harder to deal with than just a creature

Rootborn Defenses is to make your stuff indestructible. First off, there's cards that do the same thing for less, and there's even cards that do more for the same price - Make a Stand, Flawless Maneuver, Ready / Willing or even Heroic Intervention. Populate is going to be pretty inconsistent in this deck too, as there's only a small handful of token generators in the deck, so why not swap it out (or remove it, even) for something more efficient

Cinder Glade is a tapland so you might as well replace it with Sheltered Thicket. I think, regardless, switching to Sheltered Thicket will be more beneficial - fetch and eot, on your turn it enters untapped, or it's in your hand and you treat it as you would treat a Barren Moor: cycle if you don't need it, or play if you do.

Jegantha, the Wellspring is 5 mana for a max of 3 mana per turn (estimate). With so few early ramp cards, how do you expect to consistently hit 5 mana on turn 5, 4, even 3? He may be neat, and help you ramp but you need to get him in play first. I just don't think he's worth in this deck. It's a 5-colour deck, but doesn't have a strong mana base. Also an aggro deck, so a 5 mana mana dork will kinda throw off your tempo anyway

Evolving Wilds, Fabled Passage, Terramorphic Expanse, Renegade Map, Burnished Hart, Solemn Simulacrum, Yavimaya Elder, Sakura-Tribe Elder all find little to nothing. Maybe if you add in some more basics, keep Fabled Passage and Solemn Simulacrum but not the others. The reason for these caards is to thin your deck, but thin them from basics, so if you have minimal basics to begin with you're not really consistently thinning (given that the chance of drawing all your basics is exceptionally higher than it would be with, say 10+ basic lands). Fabled Passage and Solemn Simulacrum give, for sure, the highest value so that's why I suggest to keep just them.

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