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multimedia on Kess Control

1 month ago

Hey, well done so far on a budget.

Some advice to consider is how to improve the manabase on a budget.

• Command Tower: staple land for two or more colored Commander decks.
• Exotic Orchard: staple land when playing three or more colors in multiplayer Commander
• Path of Ancestry: can make any color of mana.

These three lands are called Rainbow lands. Crumbling Necropolis is the Grixis Tri land, it can make any one color of mana you need.

• Grixis Panorama
• Ash Barrens
• Evolving Wilds
• Terramorphic Expanse

These are budget Fetch lands to search for any basic land.

• Shivan Reef: budget Pain land.
• Sunken Hollow
• Smoldering Marsh

These two are Tango lands which care about lots of basic lands.

• Frostboil Snarl
• Choked Estuary
• Foreboding Ruins

These are Reveal lands that also care about basic lands and have interaction with Tango lands.

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Some lands to consider cutting:

• Temple of the False God: will not be able to tap for mana until your turn five or after since you're counting on only land drops to get to five or more lands.
• Dimir Guildgate, Izzet Guildgate and Rakdos Guildgate
• Some basic lands

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Updated budget manabase example (38 lands, 24 blue mana sources, 21 black, 20 red):

• 9x Island
• 5x Swamp
• 5x Mountain
• Command Tower
• Exotic Orchard
• Path of Ancestry
• Crumbling Necropolis
• Grixis Panorama
• Ash Barrens
• Evolving Wilds
• Terramorphic Expanse
• Shivan Reef
• Sunken Hollow
• Smoldering Marsh
• Frostboil Snarl
• Choked Estuary
• Foreboding Ruins
• Darkwater Catacombs
• Shadowblood Ridge
• Temple of Deceit
• Temple of Epiphany
• Temple of Malice

Good luck with your deck.

DreadKhan on My first own deck

2 months ago

Darkwater Catacombs and Skycloud Expanse tend to play very well for me, low budget or not tbh. War Tax is a solid pillow-fort effect. Slow Motion is a really good budget card, since you keep getting it back. Contempt might be worth casting. Fool's Demise Mark of Eviction are also interesting, mostly as repeatably castable enchantments that can hinder opponents.

Runeroads on Would you like pickles with that?

4 months ago

-1 Darkwater Catacombs
+1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

stellarnear on ComboFromTheGrave

4 months ago

Competitive all the way

Blooming Marsh > Polluted Delta
Botanical Sanctum > Wooded Foothills
Darkslick Shores > Scalding Tarn
Darkwater Catacombs > Verdant Catacombs
Grand Coliseum > Misty Rainforest
Path of Ancestry > Dark Confidant
Counterspell > Mana Drain

Runeroads on Would you like pickles with that?

4 months ago

1x Alchemist's Refuge -> 1x Alchemist's Refuge
1x Ash Barrens -> 1x Prismatic Vista
1x Bojuka Bog -> 1x Bojuka Bog
1x Command Tower -> 1x Command Tower
1x Darkwater Catacombs -> 1x Watery Grave
1x Dimir Aqueduct -> 1x Morphic Pool
1x Evolving Wilds -> 1x Fabled Passage
1x Exotic Orchard -> 1x Exotic Orchard
4x Forest -> 4x Forest
1x Foul Orchard -> 1x Overgrown Tomb
1x Golgari Rot Farm -> 1x Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth
1x Ice Tunnel -> 1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4x Island -> 4x Island
1x Jungle Hollow -> 1x Woodland Cemetery
1x Llanowar Wastes -> 1x Mana Confluence
1x Lumbering Falls -> 1x Rejuvenating Springs
1x Myriad Landscape -> 1x Misty Rainforest
1x Opulent Palace -> 1x Opulent Palace
1x Reliquary Tower -> 1x Reliquary Tower
1x Rimewood Falls -> 1x Rimewood Falls
1x Simic Growth Chamber -> 1x Breeding Pool
1x Sunken Hollow -> 1x Sunken Hollow
2x Swamp -> 2x Swamp
1x Terramorphic Expanse -> 1x Verdant Catacombs
1x Thornwood Falls -> 1x Zagoth Triome
1x Tidechannel Pathway -> 1x Tidechannel Pathway
1x Winding Canyons -> 1x Winding Canyons
1x Yavimaya Coast -> 1x Yavimaya Coast

stellarnear on ComboFromTheGrave

4 months ago

Cephalid Coliseum > Hinterland Harbor
Golgari Rot Farm > Barkchannel Pathway  ^Flip
Simic Growth Chamber > Darkwater Catacombs
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth > Darkbore Pathway  ^Flip
Waterlogged Grove > Darkslick Shores
Nurturing Peatland > Grand Coliseum

azja on Yuriko (Optimized) Primer

7 months ago

Hey @Snake57! It's great to hear from ya!

I haven't been able to play too many games with the new cards that I'm testing, but this is what I think so far:

• Darkwater Catacombs is great for paying for Yuriko's ninjutsu, but is awkward for casting 1 mana spells. Agadeem's Awakening  ^Flip is an improvement and it plays very similarly to Sea Gate Restoration  ^Flip.

• Walker of Secret Ways was helpful because I got to look at my opponents' hands and adjust my plan accordingly. But it got easily shut down by Yawgmoth, Thran Physician and Engineered Plague . In these scenarios, Azra Smokeshaper would have been practically unaffected, so I'm unsure about this swap.

• Commandeer countered a game-winning Victimize when I was tapped out, and hits hard when you flip it with Yuriko. Exiling 2 blue cards is a steep cost, but it's more helpful than Commit / Memory , which is pretty difficult to cast.

• As expected, Snuff Out is a lot less powerful in my playgroup since black is our most played colour. Even so, it can usually hit one creature on the battlefield, which clears the way for Yuriko. The card that I had to cut to make room was Cover of Darkness . It tends to be a win-more card, in that it's good when my board state is good, but bad when my board state is bad. So far I think that snuff out deserves the spot more.

• I haven't drawn Cyclonic Rift or Liliana's Triumph , so their reviews will have to be postponed :')

There are also a few cards that I plan on trying out later on:

• Gingerbrute is a card I've always been on the fence about, but I've heard nothing but good things from other Yuriko players.

• Merfolk Windrobber is a classic 1/1 flyer for 1, and can replace itself in the late game.

• Street Wraith deals 5 damage when you flip it with Yuriko, then you can immediately cycle it for another card that's more useful. It fills the graveyard for delve spells like Temporal Trespass and Dig Through Time too.

• Gitaxian Probe is a cedh staple, and banned in both modern and legacy. For only 2 life, you get to look at your opponents hand and it replaces itself. It also fills the graveyard for delve spells.

• Dismember is a 1 mana removal spell that kills most creatures, and hits for 3 damage with Yuriko.

I hope that all made sense! Let me know if you have any questions, or if you've found any hidden gems for Yuriko!

AdamThePig on Rush Format-Milling Fast!

10 months ago

Any reason not to play Underground Sea?

Also, Merfolk Secretkeeper seems better than Wall of Lost Thoughts to me if you aren't running many/any swamps. Also worth considering Gemstone Mine. Not a huge fan of Darkwater Catacombs instead of just like a fetch land, but I might be wrong.