Darkwater Catacombs

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azja on Yuriko (Optimized) Primer

1 month ago

Hey @Snake57! It's great to hear from ya!

I haven't been able to play too many games with the new cards that I'm testing, but this is what I think so far:

• Darkwater Catacombs is great for paying for Yuriko's ninjutsu, but is awkward for casting 1 mana spells. Agadeem's Awakening  ^Flip is an improvement and it plays very similarly to Sea Gate Restoration  ^Flip.

• Walker of Secret Ways was helpful because I got to look at my opponents' hands and adjust my plan accordingly. But it got easily shut down by Yawgmoth, Thran Physician and Engineered Plague . In these scenarios, Azra Smokeshaper would have been practically unaffected, so I'm unsure about this swap.

• Commandeer countered a game-winning Victimize when I was tapped out, and hits hard when you flip it with Yuriko. Exiling 2 blue cards is a steep cost, but it's more helpful than Commit / Memory , which is pretty difficult to cast.

• As expected, Snuff Out is a lot less powerful in my playgroup since black is our most played colour. Even so, it can usually hit one creature on the battlefield, which clears the way for Yuriko. The card that I had to cut to make room was Cover of Darkness . It tends to be a win-more card, in that it's good when my board state is good, but bad when my board state is bad. So far I think that snuff out deserves the spot more.

• I haven't drawn Cyclonic Rift or Liliana's Triumph , so their reviews will have to be postponed :')

There are also a few cards that I plan on trying out later on:

• Gingerbrute is a card I've always been on the fence about, but I've heard nothing but good things from other Yuriko players.

• Merfolk Windrobber is a classic 1/1 flyer for 1, and can replace itself in the late game.

• Street Wraith deals 5 damage when you flip it with Yuriko, then you can immediately cycle it for another card that's more useful. It fills the graveyard for delve spells like Temporal Trespass and Dig Through Time too.

• Gitaxian Probe is a cedh staple, and banned in both modern and legacy. For only 2 life, you get to look at your opponents hand and it replaces itself. It also fills the graveyard for delve spells.

• Dismember is a 1 mana removal spell that kills most creatures, and hits for 3 damage with Yuriko.

I hope that all made sense! Let me know if you have any questions, or if you've found any hidden gems for Yuriko!

AdamThePig on Rush Format-Milling Fast!

3 months ago

Any reason not to play Underground Sea?

Also, Merfolk Secretkeeper seems better than Wall of Lost Thoughts to me if you aren't running many/any swamps. Also worth considering Gemstone Mine. Not a huge fan of Darkwater Catacombs instead of just like a fetch land, but I might be wrong.

LitchOubliette on Commander Staples Cube

4 months ago

Changelog (22/11/2020)

White

• +Abeyance
• +Academy Rector
• +Alseid of Life's Bounty
• +Eldrazi Displacer
• +Emeria's Call  ^Flip
• +Felidar Retreat
• +Generous Gift
• +Giver of Runes
• +Leonin Arbiter
• +Mentor of the Meek
• +Mother of Runes
• +Order of the Sacred Torch
• +Sanctum Prelate
• +Skyclave Apparition
• +Unexpectedly Absent

• +Whitemane Lion

• -Argivian Find

• -Banisher Priest
• -Benevolent Bodyguard
• -False Dawn
• -Flawless Maneuver
• -Kataki, War's Wage
• -Not Forgotten
• -Oblation
• -Oblivion Ring
• -Parallax Wave
• -Promise of Bunrei
• -Sublime Exhalation
• -Sun Titan
• -Suppression Field
• -Terminus
• -Treasure Hunter

Blue

• +Curiosity
• +Hullbreacher
• +Sea Gate Restoration  ^Flip
• +Submerge
• +Teferi, Master of Time
• +Training Grounds

• +Unsubstantiate

• -Careful Study

• -Fact or Fiction
• -Into the Roil
• -Time Spiral
• -Pongify
• -Sleight of Hand
• -Reality Shift

Black

• +Agadeem's Awakening  ^Flip
• +Big Game Hunter
• +Bitterblossom
• +Body Snatcher
• +Cabal Therapist
• +Corpse Dance
• +Feed the Swarm
• +Ophiomancer
• +Opposition Agent

• +Songs of the Damned

• -Dark Petition

• -Doom Whisperer
• -Exhume
• -Inquisition of Kozilek
• -Jet Medallion
• -Overeager Apprentice
• -Sickening Dreams
• -Sidisi, Undead Vizier
• -Skirge Familiar
• -Street Wraith

Red

• +Avacyn's Judgment
• +Blasphemous Act
• +By Force
• +Desperate Ritual
• +Goblin Cratermaker
• +Goblin Matron
• +Goblin Recruiter
• +Jeska's Will
• +Lightning Bolt
• +Possibility Storm
• +Ricochet Trap
• +Shatterskull Smashing  ^Flip
• +Sneak Attack
• +Sweltering Suns
• +Thunderclap

• +Wheel of Misfortune

• -Anger of the Gods

• -Anje's Ravager
• -Balefire Dragon
• -Bogardan Hellkite
• -Comet Storm
• -Curse of Opulence
• -Daretti, Scrap Savant
• -Dire Fleet Daredevil
• -Dragon Mage
• -Generator Servant
• -Goblin Welder
• -Grapeshot
• -Hellkite Tyrant
• -Impact Tremors
• -Overmaster
• -Pyrokinesis

Green

• +Aluren
• +Hyrax Tower Scout
• +Protean Hulk

• +Shared Summons

• -Caustic Caterpillar

• -Concordant Crossroads
• -Fauna Shaman
• -Riftsweeper

Multicolored

• +Fiend Artisan
• +Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy
• +Lavinia, Azorius Renegade
• +Lurrus of the Dream-Den

• +Tinder Wall

• -Izzet Charm

• -Memory's Journey
• -Supreme Verdict
• -Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
• -Teferi, Time Raveler

Colorless

• +Aether Vial
• +Altar of Dementia
• +Bag of Holding
• +Damping Sphere
• +Jeweled Lotus
• +Lithoform Engine
• +Mirage Mirror
• +Prophetic Prism
• +Smuggler's Copter
• +Tormod's Crypt

• +Uba Mask

• -Cloud Key

• -Crucible of Worlds
• -Krark-Clan Ironworks
• -Memory Jar
• -Metalworker
• -Mystic Forge
• -Painter's Servant
• -Pithing Needle
• -Relic of Progenitus
• -Strionic Resonator
• -Voltaic Key

Mana Fixing

• +Ash Barrens
• +Branchloft Pathway  ^Flip
• +Brightclimb Pathway  ^Flip
• +Castle Locthwain
• +Clearwater Pathway  ^Flip
• +Cragcrown Pathway  ^Flip
• +Darkwater Catacombs
• +Geier Reach Sanitarium
• +Glimmervoid
• +High Market
• +Mishra's Factory
• +Mossfire Valley
• +Needleverge Pathway  ^Flip
• +Riverglide Pathway  ^Flip
• +Shadowblood Ridge
• +Shivan Gorge
• +Skycloud Expanse
• +Sungrass Prairie
• +Volrath's Stronghold

• +War Room

• -Bojuka Bog

• -Canopy Vista
• -Cinder Glade
• -Clifftop Retreat
• -Dakmor Salvage
• -Dragonskull Summit
• -Drowned Catacomb
• -Glacial Fortress
• -Hall of Heliod's Generosity
• -Hashep Oasis
• -Hinterland Harbor
• -Isolated Chapel
• -Prairie Stream
• -Riptide Laboratory
• -Rootbound Crag
• -Smoldering Marsh
• -Sulfur Falls
• -Sunken Hollow
• -Waterlogged Grove
• -Woodland Cemetery

DemMeowsephs on Mortally Challeneged

6 months ago

Hey there! Maybe consider some of the following lands!

Less than $10:

• Sunken Ruins
• Underground River
• Choked Estuary
• Drowned Catacomb
• Waterveil Cavern
• Rootwater Depths
• Tainted Isle
• Exotic Orchard
• Darkwater Catacombs
• Bad River

Less Budget:

• Watery Grave
• Polluted Delta
• Ancient Tomb
• Prismatic Vista
• MAYBE City of Brass/Mana Confluence
• Reflecting Pool
• Strip Mine

DemMeowsephs on License to Mill

6 months ago

Darkslick Shores, Choked Estuary, Morphic Pool, Darkwater Catacombs, City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Ancient Tomb, Prismatic Vista?

TriusMalarky on Geneva Format Cards List

6 months ago

Not bad mana, but weirder mana. like, for instance, we might not include Spirebluff Canal but have Steam Vents instead. So there'd be equivalent fixing all around(Vents is a card I'd like to be in addition to other WB lands), but it might be more painful for some color pairs or more later-game fixing(Probably Drowned Catacomb and Darkwater Catacombs for UB).

So not bad, per se, but viable for different types of curves.

stellarnear on Atraxa

7 months ago

Post reland slivo fetch and shock

Primordial Hydra > Farseek
Reyhan, Last of the Abzan > Nature's Lore
Arcane Sanctum > Arid Mesa
Darkwater Catacombs > Bloodstained Mire
Opulent Palace > Breeding Pool
Sandsteppe Citadel > Flooded Strand
Skycloud Expanse > Godless Shrine
Sungrass Prairie > Marsh Flats
Vivid Creek > Overgrown Tomb
Vivid Grove > Temple Garden
Vivid Marsh > Watery Grave
Vivid Meadow > Windswept Heath

Hoobynobber7395 on Mill hard play hard

7 months ago

also I would do some small mana fixing that is cheap like:

Dimir Aqueduct

Dismal Backwater

Sunken Hollow

Dimir Guildgate

Jwar Isle Refuge

Choked Estuary

Darkwater Catacombs

Submerged Boneyard

Fetid Pools

Salt Marsh

Exotic Orchard

Tainted Isle

Drowned Catacomb

Creeping Tar Pit