Scalding Tarn
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Scalding Tarn

Land

, Pay 1 life, Sacrifice this: Search your library for an Island or Mountain card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.

Andramalech on THE BRAVE DO NOT FEAR THE GRAVE

2 months ago

Tulody that might be because this deck suffers from Prototype syndrome and lack of fetchlands (Scalding Tarn, Arid Mesa, Bloodstained Mire) both cheap and color-coded. I'm sure once the full set is revealed, that KongMing might make some updates.

Nunu312 on

8 months ago

It's fair enough on the Lutri thing. It basically got banned on a technicality anyway (As it is a legal companion in every commander deck due to the rules). Though I believe this does make your deck fall under Commander Rule Zero, instead of regular Commander/EDH, but that's mostly semantics.

Fae of Wishes is another card of limited usefulness depending on your rules. Technically commander doesn't have a sideboard and therefore it cannot search for anything, but this might also be a rule you're bending (Don't let other people tell you how to have fun).

As for actual deck suggestions, some things to untap your commander might come in very handy. Patriar's Seal and Minamo, School at Water's Edge. After all, her ability says the next time you cast a spell, so if you tap her more than once, it will copy the next spell more than once.

Then your sources of deal 1 damage on a creature entering the battlefield seem like you either aren't going hard enough into it or you should strip it out entirely. It's taking up about 10% of the non-land cards in the deck and well...

If you have a Termagant Swarm with 8 counters and you have Witty Roastmaster or Gibbering Fiend and you have Ghyrson Starn, Kelermorph, then you need to find a way to kill your own termagant, because no one else is going to do it for you. Your only sources of that are Pongify and Beast Within. Sure that's not the only way you can do the synergy (Ovika, Enigma Goliath is the best way it can go)... but they are all just about as hard, often relying on your opponent to let you do them.

I'm also not sure how good Harbinger of the Seas is for you. You are running a lot of non-basic land yourself so it's not like it's going to synergise with anything you're doing so much as it's just a declaration that other players aren't allowed to play their decks until they can deal with it (which they may be entirely unable to do). It seems like a very unfun way to control the table.

As for land search, the pain fetch series, such as Scalding Tarn or Misty Rainforest might help you get that extra turn when you need it (much better than 1 life). Similarly because they get land types they can search for dual lands if you need them as long as those lands have types, like your Cinder Glade. This is generally a bit faster than Terramorphic Expanse and it's ilk.

WorldEater_42 on What do you have that I cannot obtain?

11 months ago

Thanks for taking a look fluffyeel !

  • You are spot on regarding mana. I've added a Reflecting Pool and a Scalding Tarn which should help. The new fetchable surveil lands look great for this deck given the graveyard synergies with caging.
  • Mana Crypt and Mana Vault are long term goals for the deck. With some luck we will have some reprints!
  • Commandeer looks like a ball of fun! I am a little worried about my blue card count here but there are several other decks it'll do very well in.
  • I'll have to give Displacer Kitten a try. It would go quite nuts with a haste source and a caged Gilded Lotus for instance. A cage off of Deflecting Swat and/or Fierce Guardianship would also be crazy.
  • Thanks also for the other recommendations. I've had great times with Fact or Fiction in the past, probably time to bust it out again. Force spiking everything with Patron Wizard would also be useful.

DavidSP on Brudiclad (and Magda)

1 year ago

Update 2024: 1. Lower the curve 2. Bring in Magda and some dwarfs 3. Faster Mana 4. Update some lands

ASalesman on Unesh, Ultimate Guide (Tribal)

1 year ago

Minor Tweaks:

ThassaUpYo@ssa on Anyway I Started Blasting

1 year ago

Bluelian! I've got some additional cards that I think we should consider and potentially work into your list to provide you with more wincons and card draw:

Solphim, Mayhem Dominus, Jin-Gitaxias  Flip, Electrostatic Field, Docent of Perfection  Flip, Counterspell, Mana Drain, Fierce Guardianship, Deflecting Swat, Blue Sun's Zenith, Electrodominance, Lightning Bolt, Increasing Vengeance, Rapid Hybridization, Force of Will, Valakut Awakening  Flip, Sublime Epiphany, Jeska's Will, Finale of Revelation, Crackle with Power, Banefire, Finale of Promise, Red Sun's Zenith, Seething Song, Mindsplice Apparatus, Primal Amulet  Flip, The Magic Mirror, Twinning Staff, Thousand-Year Storm, Double Vision, City on Fire, Ral, Storm Conduit, Riptide Laboratory, Temple of Epiphany, Cascade Bluffs, Stormcarved Coast, Scalding Tarn, Fiery Islet, Spirebluff Canal, Training Center, Reflecting Pool, and Plaza of Heroes

Potvuurka on Jhoira of the GG no re

1 year ago

To remove any issues with your suspend cards being countered I would suggest running some counterspells. Preferably Spell Pierce, Miscast, Swan Song, Dispel. Since you don't have a way how to defend yourself I would play 8 of them at least in any combination. Perhaps Unsummon might be a good addition either at some point.

As someone suggested above Clockspinning, Jhoira's Timebug and Fury Charm are not good.

Cryptic Command is a great multipurpose thing.

For the lands, if you wish to stay budget you can use something like Shivan Reef, Swiftwater Cliffs. For the non budget of yourse Steam Vents and Scalding Tarn.

If you would use Unsummon or any other similiar effect cards, you might be interested in playing Braids, Conjurer Adept. She's slow but fun, and works without suspend.

Mainly, better threats for opponent. Something like Inkwell Leviathan, Pathrazer of Ulamog. Using suspend even Emrakul, the Aeons Torn could prove useful.

Then of course more your own card control / draw - Serum Visions, Opt, Fire / Ice

ViscountVonSausageRoll on Jhoira of the GG no re

1 year ago

I think the deck isn't consistent enough because it doesn't have enough draw and/or tutors. Brainstorm is one of the best draw spells out there, but it's because of the way it interacts with shuffle effects such as Scalding Tarn or Mystical Tutor. This is because you draw 3, put 2 back, and then shuffle the deck-> ergo you are not drawing the 2 cards you put back. However, if we're not running lots of these shuffle effects it basically just cycles itself, because you're stuck with redrawing those two cards again. In this case I'd prioritize cards like Ponder & Preordain over Brainstorm.

That said, this seems to be a control deck. Win con is to get Jhoira of the Ghitu into play, then suspend a big spell to win the game. So the question of the deck becomes: How do we survive until we get her in play, and until the spell goes off, and how do we make sure we get her?
Survive: We're U/R so we have an almost overwhelming amount of options here. You could write a book on counterspells (Counterspell stops everything, Remand for tempo-draw if your opponents tend to play large spells themselves, Daze if you need the speed, Dispel is crazy good at protecting your stuff, etc)) We've also got nutty bounce spells like Echoing Truth, the classic Unsummon, and the mother of everything: the Cryptic Command Since we're red I am somewhat perplexed that we aren't running 4x Lightning Bolt. It stops most early-mid game threats dead. We already have Propaganda x2, so that'll help us as well.

How to get her in play: Well, we're U/R, so our tutor options are somewhat limited, but off the top of my head we have: Step Through, Vedalken AEthermage, & Drift of Phantasms.

To make room, I'd recommend cutting Clockspinning, Jhoira's Timebug, Fury Charm. They don't do anything unless we have Jhoira of the Ghitu in play already, and if we don't they're just dead cards in our hand. Our suspend cards will go off a little slower, but if we have enough blue fuckery we should be able to survive long enough.

Land suggestions: If you can, see if you can get your hands on Steam Vents or Sulfur Falls if you're on a budget. Sanctum of Ugin could also help you get more late game threats in case one or more get put out of commission.

PS: Jokulhaups could be used to replace Obliterate. It's can be countered, but it can also be much more easily hardcasted.

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