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Keiga, the Tide Star
Legendary Creature — Dragon Spirit
Flying (This can't be blocked except by creatures with flying or reach.)
When this dies, gain control of target creature.









trippy_mcfly on
Cumly Cube
2 weeks ago
Introducing Cumly Cube 1.3! Two years ago, Cumly Cube was updated to Cumly Cube 1.2, creating a balanced cube and wonderful play experience for all involved. Despite these changes, there remained some minor flaws in the card pool. I am now pleased to announce that, after extensive research and design, Cumly Cube has reached a final form. No card is too powerful. No card is too weak. Synergy is abundant. Both the draft and play experiences are dynamic, exciting, and new. There will be no more major updates to Cumly Cube 1.
120 cards have been removed, and 120 cards have been added. Here are the changes, provided with brief justifications:
REMOVED:
ARTIFACT
- Everflowing Chalice: mana rocks should cost 3 or have a drawback
- Glass of the Guildpact: too weak
- Heraldic Banner: encouraged mono-colored decks
- Illuminated Folio: too weak
- Jayemdae Tome: too weak
- Loreseeker's Stone: too weak
- Mind Stone: mana rocks should cost 3 or have a drawback
- Null Rod: too much of a hate card
- Pithing Needle: too powerful with Urza's Saga
- Pyromancer's Goggles: too narrow
- Retrofitter Foundry: too powerful with Urza's Saga
CREATURE
- Bomat Courier: too powerful against slow starts
- Deathpact Angel: creates a Cleric token, not a supported creature type
- Dimir Cutpurse: too powerful
- Elves of Deep Shadow: too obvious of a choice as a cumly
- Golos, Tireless Pilgrim: too powerful
- Hostage Taker: too powerful
- Kalamax, the Stormsire: too powerful
- Loyal Retainers: too obvious of a choice as a cumly
- Monastery Mentor: too powerful
- Moonveil Dragon: pumping the team makes for anticlimactic endings
- Murktide Regent: we’ve seen enough of this card already in other formats
- Ornithopter of Paradise: too obvious of a choice as a cumly
- Phantom Tiger: too weak
- Risen Reef: too powerful
- Shadrix Silverquill: creates Inkling tokens, not a supported creature type
- Tatyova, Benthic Druid: too powerful
- Thraben Inspector: we’ve seen enough of this card already in other formats
- Toxrill, the Corrosive: creates Slug tokens, not a supported creature type
ENCHANTMENT
- Alpha Authority: hexproof makes for less interesting games
- Favorable Winds: too weak
- Offspring's Revenge: too narrow
- Pernicious Deed: too powerful of a board wipe
- Rally the Ranks: too weak
- Song of Freyalise: too typical a card for green
LAND (types are grouped together in this list)
- Tolarian Academy: too powerful
- Arid Mesa: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Bloodstained Mire: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Flooded Strand: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Marsh Flats: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Misty Rainforest: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Polluted Delta: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Scalding Tarn: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Verdant Catacombs: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Windswept Heath: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Wooded Foothills: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Badlands: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Bayou: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Plateau: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Savannah: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Scrubland: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Taiga: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Tropical Island: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Tundra: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Underground Sea: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Volcanic Island: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Hissing Quagmire: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
- Lavaclaw Reaches: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
- Lumbering Falls: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
- Shambling Vent: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
- Needle Spires: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
- Raging Ravine: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
- Stirring Wildwood: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
- Wandering Fumarole: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
INSTANT
- Abnormal Endurance: too typical a card for black
- Aerial Predation: too narrow
- Alchemist's Gift: too weak
- Arbor Armament: too weak
- Autumn's Veil: too narrow
- Betrayal of Flesh: too weak
- Bladebrand: too typical a card for black
- Brainstorm: we’ve seen enough of this card already in other formats
- Cathartic Pyre: too much utility for an instant
- Comet Storm: one-sided board wipes need to be focused on creature type
- Consider: too typical a card for blue
- Crippling Chill: too typical a card for blue
- Crush: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Dawn Charm: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
- Dive Down: hexproof makes for less interesting games
- Divine Offering: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Dragon's Fire: too typical a card for red
- Electrify: too typical a card for red
- Fell the Pheasant: too narrow
- Gainsay: too narrow
- Gut Shot: too weak
- Heroic Intervention: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
- Hold the Line: too narrow
- Into the Core: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Lash of Thorns: too weak
- Make Your Mark: too weak
- Opt: too typical a card for blue
- Overload: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Pitfall Trap: too narrow
- Repulse: too typical a card for blue
- Scrap: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Seedtime: too narrow
- Shatter: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Smash: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Smashing Success: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Smite: too narrow
- Turn to Frog: turns a creature into a Frog, not a supported creature type
- Unsummon: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
SORCERY
- Blasphemous Act: too typical a card for red
- Chart a Course: too much utility
- Cleansing Wildfire: too much utility
- Cultivate: too typical a card for green
- Disentomb: too typical a card for black
- From the Ashes: too narrow
- Funeral Rites: too much utility
- Gitaxian Probe: too typical a card for blue
- Necromantic Summons: too typical a card for black
- Nighthaze: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
- Persist: too typical a card for black
- Pirate's Prize: too much utility
- Ponder: too much utility
- Reanimate: too typical a card for black
- Recover: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
- Serum Visions: too typical a card for blue
- Spitting Earth: too typical a card for red
- Thoughtcast: too typical a card for blue
ADDED:
ARTIFACT
- Coat of Arms: encourages building around creature types
- Patchwork Banner: encourages building around creature types
CREATURE
- Arahbo, the First Fang: supports the Avatar and Cat creature types
- Avatar of the Resolute: supports the Avatar creature type
- Autonomous Assembler: supports the Assembly-worker creature type
- Bag End Porter: supports the Dwarf creature type
- Breya, Etherium Shaper: supports the Human and Thopter creature types
- Captain Storm, Cosmium Raider: supports the Human and Pirate creature types
- Captivating Unicorn: supports the Unicorn creature type and supports enchantment decks
- Centaur Battlemaster: supports the Centaur creature type and functions as a strong payoff for prowess decks
- Chronicler of Heroes: supports the Centaur creature type
- Conclave Cavalier: supports the Centaur and Elf creature types
- Conclave Mentor: supports the Centaur creature type
- Crosis, the Purger: supports the Dragon creature type
- Fear of Exposure: supports the Nightmare creature type and supports enchantment decks
- Ghostly Changeling: supports all creature synergy decks
- Gimli of the Glittering Caves: supports the Dwarf creature type
- Glissa Sunseeker: supports the Elf creature type
- Graveshifter: supports all creature synergy decks
- Gwenna, Eyes of Gaea: supports the Elf creature type
- Haunt of the Dead Marshes: supports the Elf and Nightmare creature types
- He Who Hungers: supports the Spirit creature type
- Heedless One: supports the Avatar and Elf creature types
- Jungle Creeper: supports the Elemental creature type
- Jungle Delver: supports the Merfolk creature type
- Kataki, War's Wage: supports the Spirit creature type and functions as artifact hate
- Keiga, the Tide Star: supports the Dragon and Spirit creature types
- Kiora's Follower: supports the Merfolk creature type
- Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca: supports the Merfolk creature type
- Lagonna-Band Trailblazer: supports the Centaur creature type
- Marwyn, the Nurturer: supports the Elf creature type
- Master Skald: supports the Dwarf creature type
- Mine Layer: supports the Dwarf creature type
- Neighborhood Guardian: supports the Unicorn creature type
- Promised Kannushi: supports the Human and Spirit creature types
- Realmwalker: supports all creature synergy decks
- Reveka, Wizard Savant: supports the Dwarf creature type
- Seraphic Steed: supports the Angel and Unicorn creature types
- Soul of Zendikar: supports the Avatar and Beast creature types
- Steadfast Unicorn: supports the Unicorn creature type
- Stingmoggie: supports the Elemental creature type and functions as artifact hate
- Sygg, River Cutthroat: supports the Merfolk creature type
- Vineshaper Mystic: supports the Merfolk creature type
- Wistful Selkie: supports the Merfolk creature type
- Yargle and Multani: supports the Elemental and Spirit creature types
- Zacama, Primal Calamity: supports the Dinosaur creature type
ENCHANTMENT
- Aura of Silence: functions as artifact and enchantment hate
- Aura Shards: functions as artifact and enchantment hate
- Blessed Sanctuary: supports the Unicorn creature type
- Corrosion: functions as artifact hate
- Embargo: interesting prison piece for stasis decks
- Font of Fortunes: card advantage at a fair price for Cumly Cube
- Gate to Phyrexia: functions as artifact hate and supports the niche but possible sacrifice deck
- Impending Disaster: a useful piece for aggressive decks or niche graveyard decks
- Shared Animosity: supports all creature synergy decks
LAND (types are grouped together in this list)
- Drowned Catacomb: completing the full set of check lands
- Glacial Fortress: completing the full set of check lands
- Hinterland Harbor: completing the full set of check lands
- Sulfur Falls: completing the full set of check lands
- Cascade Bluffs: completing the full set of filter lands
- Graven Cairns: completing the full set of filter lands
- Mystic Gate: completing the full set of filter lands
- Sunken Ruins: completing the full set of filter lands
- Wooded Bastion: completing the full set of filter lands
- Darkwater Catacombs: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Desolate Mire: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Ferrous Lake: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Fire-Lit Thicket: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Flooded Grove: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Overflowing Basin: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Skycloud Expanse: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Sunscorched Divide: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Viridescent Bog: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
INSTANT
- Accelerate: supports prowess decks
- And They Shall Know No Fear: supports all creature synergy decks
- Artifact Mutation: functions as artifact hate and supports the Saproling creature type
- Bandage: supports prowess decks and is also funny
- Brokers Charm: charms are an important part of Cumly Cube
- Charge Through: supports prowess decks
- Cremate: supports prowess decks
- Mirrodin Avenged: supports prowess decks
- Poison the Blade: supports prowess decks and offers deathtouch in green instead of its typical color, black
- Pressure Point: supportsli prowess decks and offers tapping in white instead of its typical color, blue
- Steady Progress: supports prowess decks as well as slower proliferate decks
- Sugar Rush: supports prowess decks and offers power boost in black instead of its typical color, red
- Treacherous Greed: supports the niche but possible sacrifice deck
- Turf Wound: a strange tempo card that fits the ethos of Cumly Cube
- Warriors' Lesson: supports prowess decks and might end up as green Ancestral Recall
SORCERY
- Altar of Bone: supports the niche but possible sacrifice deck
- Aphetto Dredging: supports all creature synergy decks
- Apocalypse: total game resets are an important part of Cumly Cube, because you end up playing more Cumly Cube!
- Ashen Powder: a more situational and odd piece for reanimator decks
- Blood for Bones: a more situational and odd piece for reanimator decks
- Breath of Life: offers reanimation in white instead of its typical color, black
- Broken Bond: functions as artifact and enchantment hate yet also ramps
- Channel the Suns: a strange yet useful mana-fixer. Out with fetch lands, in with sorcery WUBRG!
- Cloak of Feathers: supports prowess decks
- Crippling Fear: supports all creature synergy decks
- False Dawn: supports prowess decks and might offer mana-fixing in niche situations? Even if this card is pretty useless, it screams Cumly Cube
- Grim Tutor: tutoring is a small part of Cumly Cube but very important in the right decks
- Growth Spasm: offers ramp, mana-fixing, and supports the Eldrazi creature type
- Hymn of Rebirth: offers reanimation in green and white instead of its typical color, black
- Ice Storm: land destruction is a small part of Cumly Cube but a necessary balance, and not usually in green
- Jace's Triumph: there are Jace planeswalkers in Cumly Cube
- Mana Vapors: a strange tempo card that fits the ethos of Cumly Cube
- Many Partings: offers mana-fixing and food
- Migratory Route: offers mana-fixing and supports the Bird creature type
- Obzedat's Aid: offers reanimation in black and white
- Ordered Migration: supports the Bird creature type
- Raise the Palisade: supports all creature synergy decks
- Resourceful Return: a more situational and odd piece for black graveyard decks and artifact decks
- Ribbons of Night: offers direct damage in black instead of its typical color, red
- Rise of the Witch-king: a more situational and odd piece for reanimator decks
- Riveteers Confluence: similar to a charm
- Safewright Quest: offers slight mana-fixing in green and white
- Solve the Equation: tutoring is a small part of Cumly Cube but very important in the right decks
- Sweep the Skies: supports the Thopter creature type
- Temporal Machinations: supports artifact decks
- Unnatural Restoration: supports proliferate decks
- Urborg Repossession: a more situational and odd piece for black graveyard decks
Optimator on
Roses of May -- (Marchesa Threaten)
1 year ago
I'm glad you love the deck elliotmward97!! I've had her for many years and I love her dearly. I even love Marchesa enough to have a five-color "Secret Marchesa" deck: Special Snowflakes. My playgroup ranges from precons and upgraded precons to "powerful casual" and this deck seems to hang with their stronger decks very well. It's certainly not cEDH, nor would I really want it to be. One of the reasons I kept the Threaten subtheme going string from it's budget days.
As far as "very little" card draw...
Bloodtracker, Braids, Arisen Nightmare, Grim Haruspex, River Kelpie, Sage of Fables, Scorn-Blade Berserker, Yawgmoth, Thran Physician, Phyrexian Arena, Jeska's Will, Syphon Mind, and Skullclamp are all card draw. That's eleven.
Phyrexian Reclamation is big-time card advantage if my goons keep getting whacked, Viscera Seer is decent card selection when the engine is running, and the non-Treaten theft cards could even be viewed as card-advantage if you squint (looping Thalakos Deceiver and Puppeteer Clique and Keiga, the Tide Star, Zara, Renegade Recruiter getting lucky a few times, Grave Betrayal sticking, etc).
Actually seems above-average to me, elliotmward97.
Perhaps it's light in more pure Concentrate- and Tidings-style draw, but I like the creature-based draw that synergizes with Marchesa. Makes the deck feel like it has more character, and the ceiling is quite high when the engine is rolling. Lower floor, perhaps. I've thought about including more draw effects like Bident of Thassa, Reconnaissance Mission, and Coastal Piracy since the deck swings out so much, but I like where things are right now.
Alphaeus on Please help me improve my …
2 years ago
Hey ya'll,
Here's the deck I'm building: Blue Control
It's mono-blue control deck and curious to hear how I can improve it. It's centered around stealing creatures and permanents from the other players from a safe distance. I'm not set on the current commander, Thassa, Deep-Dwelling, but I like the idea of allowing my clones to pop back in as better creatures on the field as they come in. It also allows for creatures I obtain via attachments to permanently become mine (unless I misunderstand the rules). For instance, if I use her effect on a creature I'm controlling with Control Magic, it pops back in without the enchantment under my control for good, right? At the same time, it could backfire, since I must exile a creature, and might force a clone creature to come back in as something else if the originally cloned creature is no longer on the battlefield.
And so, other commanders I'm considering are Thassa, God of the Sea, Keiga, the Tide Star, and Sakashima the Impostor.
Thoughts?
carpecanum on
I Sphinx You'll Find That's Mine
2 years ago
Rite of Replication is fun, but its really fun with Keiga, the Tide Star where you just take 5 creatures
Basshunter on
Your Soul, IS MINE! *PRIMER*
2 years ago
Hi NV_1980,
I klicked through some of your decks and this one got me. I generally like the idea of stealing stuff. And i never thought about copying Keiga, the Tide Star will give you a death trigger, thats sweet!
Here some ideas:
- Sudden Substitution can be gamechanging and has many options to use
- Steal Enchantment only 2 cmc for a Smothering Tithe, Omniscience or a God-Commander
- Pongify and/or Rapid Hybridization is in my opinion a must-have in mono blue
Did you play this deck some times? I think it could have a lack of impact. When a player loses, you lose his creatures aswell. You have to rebuilt and steal other stuff...Winning could be really hard with this deck and it is depending on your opponent. If you play against eldrazis, GREAT! But if you play vs token/land/control/...-decks, you dont have stuff to steal.
I think this deck needs a Plan B...but I dont have an idea yet
carpecanum on
Brudiclad's clone/token Shenanigans
2 years ago
My favorite card to copy/token is Keiga, the Tide Star. All but one dies and you steal everything.
Andramalech on
Wizard Prowess
2 years ago
This is a really good build you have put together here, my buddy Xxere is building something similar. Cards like Rite of Replication and Keiga, the Tide Star can really sweep for game. Love that you included Glaring Spotlight because that can be so choice in matchups. Good luck!
seshiro_of_the_orochi on
Hello Beastie
2 years ago
So to answer your question from the Advertise thread, the deck itself doesn't seem to be the problem. Your amount of ramp and interaction looks fine, and it's kind of hard to not play enough value cards in blue.
As seamonsters tend to be massive, maybe you really are getting ganged up on. To prevent this, Propaganda and Dissipation Field might be useful.
Krothuss itself is pretty small. Maybe include some ways to make it unblockable or protected. Whispersilk Cloak seems useful here, and Key to the City is especially cool here, as it helps you set up the transformation on curve and then helps Krothus get through.
Tidespout Tyrant would be a great addition in the fatty department. It's similar to hullbreaker horror, although it's not a seamonster. You could also try Cyclone Summoner as an additional boardwipe. Keiga, the Tide Star and Kokusho, the Evening Star are always great copy targets. And Wormhole Serpent does multiple things the deck wants.
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