, Pay 1 life, Sacrifice Windswept Heath: Search your library for a Forest or Plains card and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.
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1 month ago
Hey there, pretty cool deck! With Progentius being a lot of mana, you may want to include some more/upgraded ramp cards- which are exactly the things I can recommend! Let's start off with the lands. Note that I may recommend things you purposely left out or can not afford, so if that is the case please feel free to ignore those! In 4+ color decks, there are usually 3 types of lands I recommend running. The first type is the shock lands. These are must-haves, for more reasons than you may originally think. Shock lands are cards like Breeding Pool, and there are ten shock lands in every two-color combination. These guys give you the option for two different colors and the option to be untapped! But a huge reason they are so powerful, is because they can be used effectively with cards like Nature's Lore and Three Visits. While nature's lore and such only say forest, if you wanted red mana, you could search for Stomping Ground, giving you both the red and the green! Thus, I would consider adding these shocks and replacing some of the less good effects you have that do something similar, like Sakura tribe elder, etc. The second type of land I would recommend adding are fetches- however, these can be super expensive, so I will explain other options after. Nonetheless, fetches are great because you can use them, to get shock lands similarly to what we did with natures lore! Fetch lands are cards like Windswept Heath and Scalding Tarn, allowing you to search for any land with those subtypes. They also work SUPER well with cards like Ramunap Excavator and Crucible of Worlds, because now you can play these fetches again and again and again every turn, meaning you'll never miss a land drop and can pick any colors you could possibly want if you have the shock lands. However, these are pretty expensive, and so I would recommend the pain lands or filter lands. Pain lands are cards like Battlefield Forge, giving you guaranteed colored mana. Filter lands allow you to put in one color, and get any combination of a different color and that color! For example, Mystic Gate. This can be especially great with Progentius's casting cost. The last and possibly the best type, are multicolor lands, that give you any color. Mana Confluence, City of Brass, Forbidden Orchard, Command Tower, and Tarnished Citadel are all great examples of this. A lot of these lands are super expensive, and yet lands are a super important part for getting progenitus out, so if you ever are looking to upgrade progentius, consider the ten shocks, ten fetches, ten filters, and ten pain lands, as well as a few multicolor lands.
I slightly mentioned some ramp cards before that work well with shocks, though there are quite a few other ones that could work super well in the deck. First one is Chromatic Lantern. This guy can help you EASILY not worry about which lands give you what colors, and allows you to just try your best to get 10 mana, as well as producing any color mana himself. Bloom Tender could be GREAT in this 5 color deck, meaning that before progentius it could tap a lot of mana but then even with him out, could add FIVE mana which sounds pretty great to me. Selvala, Heart of the Wilds could work wonderfully once Prog is out, tapping for 10+ mana all at the expense of a single mana. Even before that, it can be a very helpful mana dork. Speaking of dorks though, I would seriously recommend some smaller ramp dorks like Birds of Paradise, Sylvan Caryatid, Ilysian Caryatid, Noble Hierarch (which can also buff progentius) and a lot more. Last but not least, some extra ramp cards that I would recommend including are Arcane Signet, Commander's Sphere, Exploration, and Burgeoning!
But OMG there are so many amazing synergies here I would recommend too! Hunter's Insight and Hunter's Prowess could draw you SO many cards with Progenitus, especially if you give him double strike! Berserk could immediately double his power, and you don't have to worry about him dying because he has inestructible! Basically one mana double strike for progentius. Blessing of the Nephilim, Civic Saber, and Might of the Nephilim would be GODLY with progentius, the last one giving him +10/+10 already!!! You also may want to consider unblockable spells that can make Progentius unblockable for cheap mana, giving you an auto-kill.
Anyways though, that was a lot to think about, please ignore any spelling errors I was kind of rushing, and I hope this helps! Be sure to check out some of my decks like Double Trouble EDH ⫸PRIMER⫷ (where you can also find some of the best unblockable spells)!! Hope this helps, good luck on this great deck, an have a wonderful day! Cheers
1 month ago
Thanks for your comment. I am very happy about such comments, as it is difficult to keep an eye on every possible combination with over a thousand commanders, especially with such a commander like Ishkanah, which you don't meet in your LGS every day. Thanks to your comment, I can see more of the potential of Ishkanah. I you want to tune up your deck, I have some recommendations for that:
I would exchange:
- Panharmonicon has only 3 targets + your commander... I think that's not efficien enough I would rather play this beast of a card: Ohran Frostfang because this card converts your spiders into carddrawing killer spiders.
- Far Wanderings for Cultivate because it's more reliable and effective
- Vessel of Nascency for Jarad's Orders because this card is just a perfect tutor for decks like this
- Blood for Bones for Victimize
- Is Witchbane Orb one of your meta picks, because a lot of your opponents play curses or burn? If not, I would rather play more carddraw because you have to less of it in your deck. Play Sylvan Library (or Phyrexian Arena) instead
- Drown in Filth with either another good removal like Abrupt Decay; Caustic Caterpillar; Plaguecrafter (Force of Despair, Darkblast, Snuff Out, Force of Vigor, Tragic Slip etc.)
- Cut 2 Forests and a Swamp for Bala Ged Recovery Flip, Khalni Ambush Flip & Hagra Mauling Flip
- Grapple with the Past for Fiend Artisan/Phyrexian Arena/Opposition Agent
- Entomb for any other tutor like Demonic, Vampiric, Grim Worldly Tutor etc. or Buried Alive
I would play as many cool utility lands with a sacrifice effect and as many fetch lands as possible because they're needed for Delirium and have also great potential with the MVP in every graveyard deck Life from the Loam:
- Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse/Ash Barrens/Jund Panorama
- Prismatic Vista/Verdant Catacombs; Windswept Heath/Wooded Foothills/Bloodstained Mire etc. (If they're out of budget, you just can play the cool and cheaper utility lands and you'll be fine) Other cool lands: Grim Backwoods!!; Geier Reach Sanitarium, Drownyard Temple Phyrexian Tower, Emergence Zone, Haunted Fengraf, Buried Ruin I would also add Deserted Temple because it can produce together with Cabal Coffers + Rings of Brighthearth infinite black mana.
Carddraw or Cardadvantage:
- Ohran Frostfang!!
- Driven / Despair!!
- Sylvan Library!!
- Night's Whisper
- Lifecrafter's Bestiary
- Phyrexian Arena!!
- Journey to Eternity Flip
- Phyrexian Reclamation
- Fauna Shaman/Birthing Pod/Fiend Artisan/Survival of the Fittest/Yisan, the Wanderer Bard
Other good finishers/ combo pieces:
- Altar of the Brood / Blood Artist / Zulaport Cutthroat
- Craterhoof Behemoth or the budget version: End-Raze Forerunners / Overrun
- Triumph of the Hordes
Well, I'm sure that you already know what other options there are to tune up the deck. If you want to win consitenly I would add more ways to produce infinte mana like Nim Deathmantle + Priest of Gix + Ashnod's Altar or Magus of the Coffers + Staff of Domination OR another unigue and complicated way to filter infinite colorless mana with Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brighthearth is together with Mirage Mirror and a Swamp...
To make the whole thing more consistent you have play all green and black tutors, play fast mana like the Moxes, Mana Crypt/-Vault, Manadorks (Elvish Mystic/Elves of Deep Shadow/Llanowar Elves etc. and pack some premium removal in the deck to raise the power level. If you're interested we can brew a fringe competetive list together.
3 months ago
So, here are my thoughts about the deck:
Manawise, your landbase should rather consist of lands that come into play untapped. It's important to have your mana available asap. I would suggest replacing karoo lands like Orzhov Basilica and also Opulent Palace with battlelands like Sea of Clouds and painlands Adarkar Wastes. The storage lands are also not ideal (e.g. Dreadship Reef), because they do not provide colored mana at start. And of course the more fetchlands you can add the better, missing Scalding Tarn, Arid Mesa, Verdant Catacombs, Windswept Heath, Wooded Foothills, Flooded Strand, Bloodstained Mire.
I would suggest you to cut even the three remaining creatures and add additional card advantage and lock pieces. Im missing Sylvan Library, Rhystic Study and Mystic Remora... all important ways to get extra cards.
Since your main wincon is the Consultation combos, I suggest you definitely run Thassa's Oracle as a main, cheap combo piece.
Lightning Greaves, boots and Helm are not necessary, since protecting Atraxa should not be such a priority to warrant extra cards for it. Also Mana Tithe, Mana Leak and Opt are not that relevant in a multiplayer format. I would advise to replace them with general, cheap countermagic, for better utility. Dovin's Veto, Delay, Swan Song, Tale's End can serve both to protect your cards and your combo, but also disrupt your opponents from winning.
Also with the amount of manarocks, you could play Winter Orb to stall and buy bit more time for your 'walkers.
3 months ago
This is so cool! Have you considered Rapacious One instead of Essence Feed? Maybe Ashnod's Altar? I feel like the altar would be able to net you twice the mana from your eldrazi spawn and can also provide on-demand death to your creatures, and a hit from Rapacious One can easily advance your board state towards something powerful and repeatable.
Your land base looks good, however Korvold especially benefits from lands that can sacrifice themselves. Fetch lands like Wooded Foothills, Verdant Catacombs, Bloodstained Mire, Windswept Heath, Misty Rainforest,Prismatic Vista, Scalding Tarn and Polluted Delta could really speed up your mana base and let you draw cards at the same time! I get that they may be out of budget- proxies are always an option if your playgroup is cool with them. Additional lands like Spawning Bed, Lotus Field, Jund Panorama, Blighted Woodland and Fabled Passage work well too.
Harrow instead of Wild Wanderer would fit your sacrifice theme. Pitiless Plunderer would give you double value while Broodwarden only buffs some of your creatures. You're not really winning with spawn, and a lot of your best eldrazi produce scions anyway.
I like your removal package, but I feel like there are some unneeded spells that can also be cut for ramp/removal. Things like Fog, Spawning Breath, Prismatic Omen, and Wave of Vitriol don't really advance your game plan (at least not as much as you'd like them to), and I think things such as Breaker of Armies, Nature's Lore, and Corpsehatch, and Commander's Sphere would work some wonders.
This is a super cool concept and I'm eager to see it in the future. I hope this helps!
3 months ago
one last thing, I hate that you can't edit these comments, anyways, instead of "Scalding tarn", there are cheaper fetches you could add, it just depends on the colours you want. Arid Mesa is the cheapest of the fetches and that fetches Boros colours. you already have Windswept Heath. so yeah. I would add Arid Mesa Before Scalding Tarn, as that is cheaper.
3 months ago
My girlfriend just asked me to put Slivers back together. Anyways, as far as the land base goes I'm gunna list. Things out by cost/relevancy
duals I know eww reserved list but if you got em or can proxy em play em
fetches they're getting their reprint in modern horizons 2 but still stupid expensive - but the fixing is just so good!
Reflecting Pool, Cavern of Souls, City of Brass, Tarnished Citadel, Mana Confluence, Forbidden Orchard, Exotic Orchard, Meteor Crater, Pillar of the Paruns, Ancient Ziggurat, Path of Ancestry, Thran Quarry, Gemstone Mine, Aether Hub and Tendo Ice Bridge
I'm not a mega fan of the depletion lands but they're excellent if you're on a budget :)
shocks - you already got a few I'll recommend getting the rest
Utility lands very overpriced cardboard but the power is definitely there
From there, if those cards are out of budget/you cannot proxy I'd go with the Triomes, battlebond lands Sea of Clouds, check lands Hinterland Harbor, and lastly the painlands Battlefield Forge beyond those the lands start becoming too inefficient and you will be targeted playing slivers. Even if you're not the threat having a slow land base is a death sentence. Hope this helped :)
3 months ago
Feiryn Ok thanks a lot! I Actually have a Path to Exile on the way (referring to your previous comment). I have an Arcane Signet on the way already too. I have a Coalition Relic on hand atm. Will likely get a Fellwar Stone and Nature's Lore too. Also actually have a Smoldering Marsh that I didn't realise I had coming. Also I'm in the process of updating the deck!
OK, now onto the meaty stuff... I'm about to spend more money LMAO. I want to get your opinion on which of these cards I should use in THIS deck, or which ones I shouldn't bother with in your opinion -
Blood Crypt, Breeding Pool, Canopy Vista, Demonic Tutor, Dromoka, the Eternal, Fellwar Stone, Future Sight, Hallowed Fountain, Herald's Horn, Kaalia of the Vast, Marsh Flats, Maze of Ith, Mirari's Wake, Nature's Lore, Nesting Dragon, Overgrown Tomb, Polluted Delta, Steam Vents, Stomping Ground, Temple Garden, Urza's Incubator, Windswept Heath,
3 months ago
No problem! It just comes down to experience really. If you're playing on Cockatrice, I wholly recommend running Tundra and a full set of fetchlands:
Fetchlands hit any card with its land type in its description. For example Arid Mesa hits any Plains, meaning not only can it fetch basics but also can get you Tundra and Hallowed Fountain. They're one of the best things you can do for a deck's consistency. I recommend cutting Evolving Wilds and Fabled Passage to start, and then decide on what else you want to drop for the rest.
Next you'll want to be adding fast mana. Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Mox Diamond, Mox Opal, and Chrome Mox will help a tonne. Keep Sol Ring and Arcane Signet alongside them, altogether they'll speed the deck up a lot which especially helps due to your higher average cmc.
On top those you could add Fierce Guardianship and Pact of Negation as great counterspells, as well as Rhystic Study and Mystic Remora for card draw. Of course the more stuff you add in general the more you have to remove, so it's up to you.
Ojutai is a great commander though, so have fun!