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Duel Commander | Legal |
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Legacy | Legal |
Leviathan | Legal |
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Modern | Legal |
Modern Beyond Horizons | Legal |
Oathbreaker | Legal |
Pauper | Legal |
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Pauper EDH | Legal |
Pioneer | Legal |
Planar Constructed | Legal |
Planechase | Legal |
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Quest Magic | Legal |
Tiny Leaders | Legal |
Vanguard | Legal |
Vintage | Legal |
Cremate
Instant
Exile target card from a graveyard.
Draw a card.
immakinganezehaldeck on Anje Reanimator (Casual CEDH)
2 years ago
11/23/22 - Madness update
I'm really low on madness cards. Needs to be far higher for an anje deck.
IN
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Emergence Zone - adds a lot of sorcery speed options into gorger loop
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Cloudstone Curio - infinite mana combo with Dockside + a creature iff dockside makes enough mana to cast both.
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Revolutionist - if in gorger loop, can loop instants (and sorceries if anje is there too.)
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Alms of the Vein - sorcery for above
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Fiery Temper - instant for above
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Violent Eruption - instant for above
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Distemper of the Blood - can also get looped with Revolutionist
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Hell Mongrel - discard outlet WITH MADNESS
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Bag of Holding - Shadow of the Grave effect
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Asylum Visitor - madness
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Kitchen Imp - madness
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Bloodhall Priest - madness and etb trigger that kills with gorger
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Terminal Agony - madness
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Necrogoyf - madness
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Malevolent Whispers - madness
OUT
NOTES
Removed most end game threats + interaction that didn't have madness, since madness tech needs to be there in high density and the deck can win through that stuff mainly.
Rebullet on Counter Deck
2 years ago
yea Fabled Passage is fantastic. now looking at your lands it is much better, you are hard pressed to have a dead land in the beginning as long as you draw more than 1 in the opening hand. though you are running 5 cost creatures and you average mana cost is relatively high i would not go below 23 lands as a rule unless my avg mana cost was below 2.0. your avg mana cost is currently 2.64. there are some things that you can finagle to make lower lands work like cost reducers and mana ramp, but your deck really needs lands and neither of those options fix the issue so i would say cut some things.
second thing. other than lands your non creature cards are unfocused and detrimental. you have too many situational cards that can be dead cards in many matchups. when putting in cards to deal with matchups you want to put things that deal with many things effectively in the mainboard and efficient things that deal with specific decks in the sideboard. you also want to avoid putting too much instant interaction into a creature based deck. doing so can split your focus, sometimes you will have too many instants and no creatures making it so you can only play defensive. you should focus your mainboard to your strategy only and have only a few cards to deal with threats. 4 assassins trophies is more than enough. usually in games getting a single permanent removed is the difference between a win and a loss. you want to focus on putting as many threats onto the board as possible instead of worrying what your opponent has out. in this sense Cremate, Thoughtseize, Gaea's Blessing are purely detrimental to you in the mainboard. cards like Oblivion's Hunger and Inspiring Call do nothing to advance your board state and rely on you having a sufficient board state to function correctly. if you have no creatures out then they are dead cards. Abrupt Decay is really good but you want to cut down on things that do not progress your own board state, same thing with Riveteers Charm. Assassin's Trophy is the most efficient and versatile removal you have access to so you should focus that card and leave the others out.
now on to domri. you only ever want up to 2 legendary anything unless they are your main strategy for the deck or if they have value from being replaced. domri is neither. he is there for utility. this logic also applies for large costed creatures. if you have big mana cost things then you will likely draw more if you have more, making them dead draws until you have the ability to cast them. Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch and Kalonian Hydra are much to costly for an aggro deck to have 4 of them. you should cut them down to 1 or 2 so that your early game doesnt suffer.
now that i look at this closer you have nothing that "produces counters" for your creatures. all your creatures produce a set and then continue, the only one who really produces counters is Kalonian Hydra and that is very inefficent. your board without a kalonian hydra cannot grow beyond their own scope. you should look into putting in some counter producers like Hangarback Walker, Nissa, Voice of Zendikar, The Ozolith (kinda counts), Dreadhorde Butcher etc. things that have a way to continuously get counters without limiting it like with evolve.
Boxfish on Sheoldred, Rising Dead v2
2 years ago
TheSnuggleLord Absolutely! Even when I move on to my next deck (I really need one to counter my wife's new Exile/Graveyard hate deck lmao), I'm for sure going to be constantly poking and prodding at this one and refining the side deck to have correct cards to swap in against certain strats going forward.
also, UPDATE 3: Swapped out Charcoal Diamond, Phyrexian Alter, Heirloom Mirror Flip, Eldrazi Monument, Cremate, Eaten Alive, and Gorex, the Tombshell, To make room for the following; Unearth, Necrotic Ooze, Poison the Cup, Bolas's Citadel, Gravepurge, Swiftfoot Boots, and Arcane Signet.
Now that this deck is getting pretty well settled in (at least for its price range), I'll be clearing out the maybe board a little bit (still have lots I want to test, excited for that) in leu of putting together a sideboard with some comprehensive descriptions of my reasoning for potentially swapping them out when going against different deck types I've now encountered. Thanks for everyone pitching in with suggestions so far, it's been fun!
RoyaleWithCheese on
2 years ago
Hey, I just updated the deck.
I played a bunch of matches yesterday against a friend of mine, who plays Kess duel. Unfortunately, I couldn't play with different decks.
His Kess is really control/removal focused. A lot of removals and counters, so it was really tough for me.
My main take was: I need more draw. I don't have much more draw spells that can fit the deck, but I include some cards like Cremate and Dusk Legion Zealot. I also think I had too much ramp spells, so I took off a mana dork.
Made some other changes aswell. And I managed to get a Ranger's Guile, thanks for the suggestions!
Anyway, thanks for the comments! Cheers!
RambIe on ugg i need help
3 years ago
enpc please don't give up. i really do need the help
your advise is solid and do appreciate it. fetch's would work with almost any other deck. its just these colors options are limited with
Tithe
by itself i run out of targets and the one fetch i am running becomes a fetch basic with out slowfield stinkhole.
i've spent since February obsessively tuning this deck to consist run a 4 card combo with in 8 turns, while being resistant enough to play through what ever is thrown at it to stop it, and at the same time still being able to stop others. now im trying to do it in 6 turns. if it is possible, the answer is not going to be easy
firja, is a tempo for me to. if i ramp up and blow out my hand i shut down my biggest card vantage. so it is limited to two cards per turn. in an ideal situation ill play two sorcery speeds on my turn and then two instant speeds on opponents turns. the deck is playable with 2 mana, accelerates with 4 mana, and peaks at 6 mana.
cantrips really are the key to success, i have to cast 2 to draw 1. this math fails and already leaves you with no cards in hand. thats why weird cards like
Defiant Strike
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Purify the Grave
,
Cremate
perform amazing in this deck even though the abilities them self's are week
Goblin_Guide on Munch
4 years ago
Aaah MAN I can NOT beLIEVE I forgot about Hymn to Tourach, I'm so disappointed in myself.
The comment about the interaction is totally true, I really wanted to try out the strategy of suicide black and didn't really think about interaction too much. I'll probably take your advice and add in some Dismember and some Inquisition of Kozilek, those are both pretty good and well within budget range for me.
Cling to Dust is pretty good, I'll try it out in place of Cremate, the reason I have those (and Aphotic Wisps) is because I just really love cantrip effects; mostly irrational, but I like them nonetheless.
Rouse is really fun as a combat trick with a Death's Shadow, but you might be right about it not having high enough impact on the game; maybe I'll try out Cruel Bargain instead. But, only a couple, I want to keep the CMC down, the other slots will likely be for interaction.
I really enjoy playing Village Rites just as a card, especially post combat with it being the only card in my hand, but yes, it is a really really bad topdeck. I might cut some number for other card draw, but if I ever do end up with Unearth in the main I will likely bump the number up again.
Speaking of Unearth, yes, the sideboard is more of a maybeboard; it's filled mostly with cards I enjoy playing in this strategy, or just don't have room for.
For more removal, I'll mix it up with an assortment of some of the cards you suggested.
Thanks so much for the suggestions Draly, I have virtually no experience with the legacy format so it's nice to have someone with insight to offer.
Draly on Munch
4 years ago
Always happy to see Sui-Black ! It used to be my deck of choice when I first started playing legacy competitively, it's a nice budget option for beginners. It has been a while since I last played it but I still have a good grasp of the format as a whole, so, if I may, I'd like to give you some advice. I think an ideal version deck can reach about 40% winrate when played perfectly (you probably won't win tournaments but you will not get destroyed either), but I also think yours may need a few tweaks. I'll try to be mindful of the budget constraint.
What strikes me when I look at your deck is the lack of interaction, one of the core components that makes Sui-Black viable in legacy is the access to efficient discard. If toughtseize is too expensive Duress and Inquisition of Kozilek can play the role just fine. I also don't think you should neglet Hymn to Tourach, on turn 2 it can sometimes be an instant win if for example you hit your opponents lands.
I'd get rid of Cremate and some number of Rouse and Aphotic Wisps, those cards simply don't do enough. Cremate, unless you know your meta is incredibly graveyard centric is too inconsenquential; yes it's card neutral but you still pay mana and tempo to essentially do nothing. If you still want to have access to this kind of effects for whatever reason I advise you to play Cling to Dust instead which can serve as card advantage later in the game. Regarding the other two, first you seem a little creature light to me, then they are an horrendous top deck, they open the door to 2-for-1s from your opponent and, even in the best case scenario, they're simply not that good. Rouse's kind of effects especially are usually not worth a card.
Similarly I don't really understand the presence of Village Rites... Your deck does not synergize with this kind of effects and I'm not sure you want to sac your already few creatures. If it's there to cash in targets of opposing removal, it's not really worth it. And, once again, terrible top deck. It's the kind of trap cards that feel good when they work but that we don't blame for losing because we usually don't think about what would have happened if we drew something else. You'd better be playing Sign in Blood (which also can double as a burn spell) or Cruel Bargain. Similarly I think Spoils of the Vault is somewhat of a trap too, but the card is both fun and unique enough that I won't complain :p
You could probably play more removal. There are the usual suspects Fatal Push, Dismember, Eliminate, Bloodchief's Thirst... But being mono-B you also have access to more niche options like Gatekeeper of Malakir, Geth's Verdict or even Spinning Darkness.
I won't touch on the SB too much, it needs to be tuned to your meta, but right now it looks more like a "maybe board" to me.
I hope you'll find this useful and I'd encourage you to take a look at this forum http://www.legacy-france.org/index.php?showtopic=13440&st=0 It's in french but decklists are in english and you may find interesting choices of cards in there. I especially like the first list, though it's a bit old and more on the controlling side than yours.
zAzen7977 on Tinybones, Bladerunner [PRIMER]
4 years ago
Hey Icaruskid, thanks for the +1 and nice comment! I like your list too. I have a few suggestions -
I think you should run more graveyard-hate. I only see Planar Void, but you need more ways to wipe your opponent’s graveyard. If your graveyard gets wiped too, that’s fine. Some deck types love it when you discard their cards for them, like The Gitrog Monster and Reanimator decks, and those decks are your main weakness. I’ve learned this from other T/O users who saw the same problem with my deck. You need to be able to draw more options without having to tutor for them all the time. Cards like Leyline of the Void, Tormod's Crypt, Cremate, Cling to Dust, Nihil Spellbomb, Soul-Guide Lantern, Relic of Progenitus, etc.
Another card I really like is Praetor's Grasp because it allows you to take out the card you think your opponent needs the most for their strategy. It has served me well several times.
Also I think Peer into the Abyss is expensive mana-wise. I would swap it out for Ad Nauseam, which is more effective and cheaper (mana-wise and now price-wise after it was reprinted).
Happy Halloween! :)
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