Clifftop Retreat

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Clifftop Retreat enters the battlefield tapped unless you control a Mountain or a Plains.

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Hoobynobber7395 on Kaalia of the Vast

1 week ago

A couple of spicy adds and away to establish some win cons is Armageddon and Master of Cruelties these two establish power in a table of 4. Reconnaissance can pull Kaalia of the Vast out of combat and protect her from blockers and still get the trigger. Strionic Resonator can copy Kaalia of the Vast ability trigger Spicy includes:

• Reconnaissance
• Master of Cruelties
• Armageddon
• Strionic Resonator

Some lands to include:

• Rogue's Passage
• Isolated Chapel
• Clifftop Retreat
• Tainted Field
• Inspiring Vantage
• Sulfurous Springs
• Concealed Courtyard

take out some of the basics you're running for the lands, mana fixing in a 3 color deck is important.

Peoni on Aurelia's Budget Battalion

2 weeks ago

Helm of the Host goes infinite with your commander and Godo, Bandit Warlord. I know your goal is a budget deck but $10 isn't too bad for a centerpiece win condition in the grand scheme of things. I'll try to keep further recommendations budgeted though. :^)

I'd also recommend replacing a lot of your lands that come in tapped. Lands like Command Tower, Temple of the False God, Slayers' Stronghold, Rugged Prairie, and Clifftop Retreat can all come in untapped and are pretty budget options (some more than others). If those are still outside of what you're willing to spend I'd recommend just using basics instead. Generally speaking you just really don't want your lands coming in tapped.

I'd also advise you to add in more mana rocks like Sol Ring, Talisman of Conviction, Everflowing Chalice, Prismatic Lens, and Mind Stone. You also don't want your rocks to be coming in untapped, so I'd suggest you replace Guardian Idol and Star Compass with some of the rocks listed, and you could probably do the same with Traveler's Amulet and Wanderer's Twig.

Your deck is fun and fair as it is. I like it. :^) I just thought I'd try and help fix up your mana base all nice. Hope this helps!

DemMeowsephs on Long Live the Monarch

4 weeks ago

Hey there! I think I can help a bit regarding your mana base. Let's take a look at that.

You have 26 lands, out of 100 cards, but your average mana cost is 3.72!!!! Usually you run about 30-32 if your mana cost is even at 2.20, so in my opinion, your deck needs A LOT more lands, and ramp. Let's take a look at lands first!

Lands

Ok, so there are MANY MANY lands you should use that you are missing. Our goal should be for you to include at minimum 33 lands. I understand it will be hard to find cards to take out but trust me- you need at least 33 otherwise it'll be very difficult for your deck to even function. You should include the following.

• Shock lands. If you need mana THAT turn, they can come in untapped! If you don't want to take the damage you don't have to, but you'll always have the option to which makes them so good. They can also be used with fetch lands, but more on that later
• Godless Shrine
• Blood Crypt

• Sacred Foundry

• Fetch Lands! These are pretty much the best lands in magic. You can look for ANY colors you need, if you have the shock lands I just mentioned. The fetch lands can search for the shock lands, allowing you to get WHATEVER COLOR YOU NEED. They can also search for basics which is less helpful but still possible. They can also search for Savai Triome. (They search for anything that has a subtype they specify)

• Marsh Flats
• Bloodstained Mire (Budget: Rocky Tar Pit)

• Arid Mesa

• Fast lands! These are extremely useful the first couple turns, and they help you set up your board quickly so you can have a good start!

• Concealed Courtyard
• Blackcleave Cliffs

• Inspiring Vantage

• Filter lands! You have the red/white version- but not the rest! Add all three! They can give you any combination of the two colors they supply, which is extremely useful! They are also very cheap with double masters out- so get them soon!

• Fetid Heath
• Graven Cairns

• Rugged Prairie

• Pain and Horizon Lands! These are AMAZING because you can always rely on them for mana, without worrying if they come in tapped- at the expense of only ONE LIFE. Remember your life is a resource- if you win at 1 life it's the same as winning at 40. Getting good mana is much more important than paying some life.

• Caves of Koilos or Silent Clearing
• Sulfurous Springs or [No Card Exists Yet]

• Battlefield Forge or Sunbaked Canyon

• Check lands. Now these I would recommend not using, but if you have a budget and you want to improve your manabase, these are much better than what you have now.

• Isolated Chapel
• Dragonskull Summit

• Clifftop Retreat

• Battlebond/C Legends Lands! Some of these aren't out yet, but be sure to get them if you normally play with multiple players!

• Vault of Champions (COMES OUT SOON)
• Luxury Suite

• Spectator Seating (COMES OUT SOON)

• So in the end, these lands are VERY VERY VERY helpful and make your manabase much faster. There are also a BUNCH of single lands that are even better than some of these! Try to include as many as you can of the following:

• Ancient Tomb

• Prismatic Vista
• Fabled Passage
• City of Brass
• Mana Confluence
• Reflecting Pool
• Exotic Orchard
• Strip Mine/Wasteland
• Forbidden Orchard
• Gemstone Mine

• Gemstone Caverns

• So again, I would try to include many of these, and trust me- aim to have 33-35 lands in your deck. A lot of your lands come in tapped- slowing you down and making your manabase worse. Take those out. A couple lands could be replaced with better things. (Temple of the False God for Ancient Tomb). Take those out. You also have some good lands that don't relate to your deck. I get Boseiju, Who Shelters All and Eiganjo Castle (Etc) are cool, but they don't really make sense in your deck, and could be replaced with cards I mentioned before. To make a good deck you need a good mana base, and I recommend making that mana base, and definitely adding more lands in general.

If this helps be sure to check out and support some of my decks like Double Trouble EDH and A Deal With the Devil EDH! if you have any questions about what I wrote, want more help, or want some ideas, feel free to ask me on my wall or just tag me here, I'd love to help! Anyways, I hope this helps, good luck on your deck, and have a great day!!! Happy tapping!

zapyourtumor on boros burn/lifegain

4 weeks ago

Second Inspiring Vantage, it's one of the cheapest fast lands so a playset is under $15

Also Clifftop Retreat is pretty cheap as well

DemMeowsephs on Akiri/Bruse have swords

1 month ago

G'day mate! You might like some of these lands. You have a great manabase but I think these could improve it greatly. Maybe less lands that come in tapped or basics?

• Sunbaked Canyon
• Clifftop Retreat
• Arid Mesa

Definitely run the Horizon and fetch land, they are must haves, and the check land too but that's not as necessary. However, I would consider some of these mukti/colorless lands, they help me in a lot of my decks.

• Ancient Tomb
• Prismatic Vista
• Fabled Passage
• City of Brass
• Mana Confluence
• Reflecting Pool
• Strip Mine/Wasteland
• Forbidden Orchard
• Gemstone Mine

• Gemstone Caverns

• Also maybe consider Inventors' Fair or Glimmervoid too for the artifact theme?

• I also think your deck needs some ramp. Maybe consider some of the following, since most of them are artifacts anyway.

• Ruby Medallion

• Pearl Medallion
• Maybe Fellwar Stone
• Cloud Key
• Extraplanar Lens
• A BUNCH for you can find at Mana Gathering

Anyways though I think almost all of these are worthy cards and I would definitely consider them in your deck! If this helps be sure to check out some of my decks, like Double Trouble EDH and A Deal With the Devil EDH. I recently decked them out with CSS and huge descriptions to feel free to look at those! Anyways though, I hope this helps, good luck on your deck, and have a great day! happy tapping!

MTGBurgeoning on Scion of the Ur-Dragon: Every. Dragon. Ever.

1 month ago

Changes are coming to this Scion of the Ur-Dragon EDH/Commander deck!

The ten check lands (Glacial Fortress, Drowned Catacomb, Dragonskull Summit, Rootbound Crag, Sunpetal Grove, Isolated Chapel, Clifftop Retreat, Sulfur Falls, Hinterland Harbor, Woodland Cemetery) are being replaced by the following:

1. Indatha Triome

2. Raugrin Triome

3. Zagoth Triome

4. Savai Triome

5. Ketria Triome

Introduced in Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths, the triomes are more versatile than the check lands. Each offers an additional color and are perfect targets for our fetch lands. In fact, any turn 1-3 fetch lands should target triomes. Additionally, late game we can cycle an unwanted triome and draw a card, an ability previously missing in the deck.

1. Mana Confluence

2. Exotic Orchard

3. Unclaimed Territory

For the cost of one life, Mana Confluence gives us one mana of any color. In the best case scenario, Exotic Orchard will act as Command Tower #2. In the worst case scenario, Exotic Orchard is worthless. In the most likely scenario, Exotic Orchard will be closer to a Command Tower than a useless rectangle of cardboard. Unclaimed Territory limits our colored mana to casting only dragons, but still provides for our non-dragon spells.

1. Fellwar Stone

2. Smothering Tithe

Including Fellwar Stone and Smothering Tithe increases our ability to ramp. Fellwar Stone is an artifact version of Exotic Orchard while Smothering Tithe taxes each opponent with for each card drawn. Failure to pay the tax gifts us with a Treasure. Slimming the land count from 40 to 38 by adding artifact/enchantment ramp is noteworthy. It's an attempt to cast Scion of the Ur-Dragon more quickly and try to outpace our opponents.

A few other changes:

1. Fierce Guardianship replaces Chromium the Unmutable. Chromium the Unmutable was slotted into this deck in order to protect Scion of the Ur-Dragon. It costs a card to do it, but in the end after activating Scion of the Ur-Dragon and becoming a copy of Chromium the Unmutable our General/Commander will have hexproof until the end of turn. I believe Fierce Guardianship can protect Scion of the Ur-Dragon better.

2. Guardian Project replaces Steel Hellkite. Removal is strong in our deck? Card draw is not. In order to add the awesome card-drawing ability of Guardian Project, we remove Steel Hellkite. This exchange was not difficult, as activating Scion of the Ur-Dragon to become a copy of Steel Hellkite was as rare as winter roses.

3. Rhystic Study replaces Wipe Away. I'm pretty sure our lack of card draw was documented earlier. By adding Rhystic Study, we add one of the best card-drawing spells in our format. Our removal is strong, and swapping out a removal spell for Rhystic Study is warranted.

To summarize:

Our land count dropped from 40 to 38, but gained more versatility throughout the mana base.

Our number of dragons dropped from 28 to 26.

Our number of ramp/card-draw spells increased by four (Fellwar Stone, Smothering Tithe, Guardian Project, Rhystic Study).

Collectively I believe that these 13 changes make the deck stronger and more balanced. What do you think?

jimmythebass on Kyle's Budget Feather

1 month ago

Some cards worth considering - I won't mention any cards that are more expensive for a paper copy than Aetherflux Reservoir since it seems to be the most expensive single in the deck:

*Boros Charm is amazing, since it can either give Feather double strike, save you from a non-exile boardwipe, or remove a planeswalker (or a player who's almost dead)

*Sunforger+Magnetic Theft is good in any Boros deck that runs a decent number of instants and is at its best with Feather being able to get Magnetic Theft back every turn (side note: according to edhrec, only 35% of Feather decks with Sunforger also run Magnetic Theft. Why the hell is this not 100%?)

*Seize the Day can potentially let you kill multiple opponents in one turn

*Bedlam guarantees Feather won't get blocked

*Chandra's Ignition is the best board wipe for Feather decks imo since she can easily get quite large and she recycles it

*Acrobatic Maneuver fizzles targeted removal, cantrips, and gets recycled (in general you want to be running as many recyclable cantrips as possible)

*Settle Beyond Reality is a recyclable removal spell that can potentially combo with the Dualcaster Mage that's already in your list to become a one-sided wipe

*Knight of the White Orchid and Solemn Simulacrum get you lands and are excellent targets for your blink spells if you don't need to use them as protection

*Zada, Hedron Grinder and Mirrorwing Dragon both at best make several copies of your cantrips, and at worst turn your pump one dude spells into pump your team spells

As for the manabase:

*With how cheap Command Tower is since it's printed in every single commander precon the only reason not to run it in any multicolor deck is if you forget it exists. There's a reason it's the single most played land in the format

*By the standards of dual lands that come in untapped if certain conditions are met, Inspiring Vantage and Clifftop Retreat are both relatively cheap

*Mistveil Plains is worth considering if you do get a Sunforger

Hoobynobber7395 on kaalia of the vast

1 month ago

I'd also upgrade your mana base if you are trying to be fast, take out the etb tapped lands for shock lands like Blood Crypt or Sacred Foundry and lands that enter untapped like Clifftop Retreat or Inspiring Vantage it would speed up your deck so much.

I would also swap out Victory's Herald and Tyrant's Familiar for Gisela, Blade of Goldnight and Aurelia, the Warleader. It's another way to double combat phases and double damage and receive half damage.

Swap out Overseer of the Damned for Master of Cruelties, and swap out Oros, the Avenger for Tariel, Reckoner of Souls. Master of Cruelties with Kaalia of the Vast is a wincon, and Tariel, Reckoner of Souls let's you steal players graveyards basically.